Topic: Do you have this practice of gambling during one's wake - page 3. (Read 661 times)

This is exactly the same practice in most of the rural communities in Nigeria.... It nothing really different because I think I've experienced this before; the only difference would be that the tong wasn't organized to support the bereaved family... Different people just pulled up with their stands to organize a make-shift gambling kiosk.
Seems you don't even understand what OP meant... WTF is when you wake up? Hahahaha

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OP, you must be from Asia. Gambling is a part of life in Asian countries much more than it is in other parts of the world. We don't have anything like that here in Europe. All we do is stay close with the family, help them by being there, praying, bringing flowers, sometimes sharing a meal. We don't give them money or gamble to raise money. Mourning is associated with respect and having fun playing games is not really the definition of respect. If you did that they'd say that you don't care and choose to have some fun instead.


It's not about gambling when you wake up A wake is when you mourn after you lose someone close to you. Do you guys even read the post, or just write some random shit based on the way you understand the title? Does your campaign manager really pay you for this pile of crap?

Wow. This is a pretty interesting practice. I haven't heard of it before. If it is comfortable with you, what country is it. I would like to know more about it.

In my country, wake are always quite solemn depending on the age of the person who has passed on. What happens there is more of a religious ceremony where there is a priest, a sermon, and singing of hymns. There are no games, just some good music and dance to celebrate the life of the deceased but his depends on the age of the person who passed on.

Gambling activity during a wake also serves as a way to provide the family with some financial assistance regardless if the family doesn't ask for it. Yes, these people can just give money to the family through donations without doing gambling but when there's an active gambling activity in a wake, it likely can invite other random people to be involved.

More people doing gambling = more chances of money flow for the family

These "other people" who were being lured into gambling at that wake don't even know who's the one being at the wake. They are just there to gamble.

What I think is that each country has its culture and that is something that is respected, in my country the culture is different, if there is a wake, what they do is pray and pray so that the soul of the dead can rest in peace and managed to cleanse oneself well of the sins that the person committed, it is more than all a religious custom, and it is something that is very delicate, I know that in countries like Mexico there is the day of the dead where that is a holiday, But given the situation that is now so difficult and things are so expensive, it is not a bad idea to do something like this to help raise funds for the family. I say this from my own experience, because some time ago my grandfather died and the Funeral expenses were very high, they paid it to his son and I think one of them still owes money.

What surprises me is that they treat a vloroio as almost a celebration, it is difficult to do something like that when there is the pain of a loved one, but it is a matter of seeing things differently, maybe it is better to cope with things like this in the middle of pain.

But part of death is part of life too, we don't know what lies beyond or what will happen to us, so for those who are left, what do they have to bear with the expenses and thus be able to get ahead , but it is a very tradition different, it is very interesting.

This tradition has long been held here in our country the Philippines, there is a crackdown on illegal gambling by the police authorities here in our country, but since it is a tradition, the authorities eventually allow it provided that they only allocate one table for their gambling activity.


This tradition is very popular in the provinces because our provinces are divided by seas it will take days before the arrival of the family to pay their last respect to their departed relatives, it's a past time to keep vigil and to strengthen the ties between relatives who just met during the wake, part of the proceeds will be given to the family as a form of donation.

I don't do the practice when I wake up, and I tend to avoid it. For me, it's unusual, maybe because we have different countries and traditions, and maybe if I were in your country, I would definitely like to do it.

Sometimes, gambling at wakes actually helps out the family financially, like a small safety net during a tough time. Plus, it can bring folks together, like a shared activity that helps them connect and maybe even forget the sadness for a bit. It's like a cultural thing, you know, traditions can be weird like that sometimes.

Of course, there's a flip side. Some folks see it as disrespectful to the deceased or even a way to exploit people who might be struggling with gambling. And hey, different cultures have different views on gambling altogether, so it can be a moral minefield.

So, what's the verdict? It's not a clear-cut good or bad. It's more like a complex situation where you gotta consider different perspectives and find a way to make it work, if at all. Maybe the family agrees to it, everyone plays responsibly, and it becomes a way to both mourn and support each other. But hey, if it feels off, or someone's not comfortable, then maybe it's best to skip the poker chips during the wake.

In my country there is no tradition like this because gambling is prohibited in Indonesia.
But when you know that gambling after waking up has become a tradition in some countries,
it becomes a unique tradition, even if it is not just about gambling, but gathering at the same table with family.

Especially to make donations to families who are grieving financially from the results of gambling done after waking up.

I was surprised by this kind of tradition because it never existed in my country.
And regarding doing gambling with full responsibility, it must be done, this is to avoid the negative effects that will be caused.

I personally do not join or engage during wakes but we have the common tradition and I think we are in the same country. Fees or tongs is collected from gambling are donated to the bereaved family financially to help cover funeral expenses or support them. Regardless of the legality, it's still important to gamble responsibly, set budget andavoid excessive gambling

Yeah, it is a tradition and it will be more supported if the dead has been engaged in gambling and knows by the community as a gambler. There's a belief that his soul might even be happier if he/she people gambling on their wake.

But for me, I don't do that on anyone's wake. I am there to chit and chat and have sometime with the bereaved family to discuss matters or just wanna catch up. It is just my way of showing respect to the dead person, I am not against gambling on the wake.

If it's allowed, that's allowed and no one can stop that. As I've said, that's just me and my way of paying respect not just to the dead but also to the family.

I think it's a exellent idea, because there are a lot of countries with very poor people. I see they play "Tong" in the Philippines and it is very popular there.

I did not know that it is played during a "Wake" or "funeral" ... which is good, because it helps the family financially.

Different countries have differents cultures, so the world should accept other people's cultures and respect them.

In my country gambling is legal and there's no further restrictions to how it's been carried out, so if you choose a certain pattern with which you could gamble if it causes no harm to anyone or the society at Large then it's definitely not a problem and you bare at liberty to go ahead to gamble the way you whish, in cases or situation as this, you bare at liberty to give to the bereaved family whatever it is you wish to probably from your gambling proceeds in oder to support the family and there's no restrictions or regulations to that.

Card games are not considered illegal in my country but it shouldn't be a reason why there will be any form of breaking the law or causing disorder which also includes when any bereaved family is involved but if it's a way of reconnecting and keeping family and friends together then there's absolutely nothing wrong with it in my country.

Well, yeah in my country in some places they doesn't allow street gambling unless you will ask for permission to the local authority, for example  there is an event in in the barangay, or city before you can host an gambling games you should ask for permission because if not then it will be considered as illegal, the country I'm residing in doesn't have strict rules about gambling, you just need to comply and ask for permission in order to maintain order in that place and also if anything happens then there should be a person that is responsible for that, it is also implemented so that to avoid those illegal gambling host that can have bad intent to those customers, in short to avoid scammers that could take advantage to those people who will gamble in their hosted gambling. I agree with authorities implementing rules that should be followed to avoid anomalous transactions.

There is no such law in our country but playing cards is considered gambling and has strict restrictions. It's fine if someone plays secretly but if they find out, the police will come. Once here in our house some people were playing cards when the police came in civil dress and arrested them. Bereaved families must find other ways to support. In countries where card playing is allowed, it will be easier to help bereaved friends and relatives

Each country does have their own traditions but i do see this to be somewhat that common or could be seen on other countries as well not only just on Philippines but having this kind of
set up on where there would really be some sort of fee accumulation or thats been called tong or whatever it its, then it would be somewhat be beneficial into the family that had been affected.
Its not bad on applying out such thing because it is really just that for the c=good cause. Gambling or playing cards into these kind of wakes is really that common.
People would really be needing to be aware of such time and doing some gambling thing would really be that common.

Here in our country then this is something that do happens too but not really that much if we do speak into our own family or relatives on which there's no such thing
about having that pot fee or something. The money that been saved or accumulate do comes from to those relatives who do give out such donation or something
like that.

No, in my country it is not allowed to play cards for money. In my country, if there is a wedding parties that lasts for 3 days and 3 nights, usually late at night we play cards until morning while guarding the party location. In the past, things like this were often used as gambling practices and at that time the police were not firm and allowed it, but now it is completely prohibited.

Apart from wedding parties, we also often play cards during night patrols carried out by residents of the housing complex in turn, usually we play cards at the patrol post until the morning. However, we are prohibited from using money, but we often use money secretly

Philippines that's where this tradition is very common.  "Tong" if i'm not mistaken is just a slang word for a small fee when a gambler wins the pot. this fee will generate funds for the wake to keep running til the day of burial.  i'm not really aware of the history of the word but its just what's been called since the time i was aware of it.

when my grandpa died, it took a week of wake that his basement was like a betting house. drinks were served including cervesa and coffee and cookies which these are funded by the "tong".

Tong? I'm afraid it's not practised in my country. This is even the first time I am reading a practice like that. I'm curious though, it would be nice if you could add the name of your country to the OP so that we can at least know where such is being practised. Or better still, the continent you are to have a clue if you do not want to add the name of your country. This practice is worth doing, it's a very good means to cater for the bereaved, at least for a while until they find firm feet again. Of course, in my thought, the rich might go against it, but for those who are poor, it will go a long way to help them.

How I wish I could introduce this in my community as well, but the issue is that I live far from my ancestral home, and to do this in an urban area will take a lot of orientation and resources which I do not have. Well, I wish those who are doing it well. Perhaps one day, the NGOs that have the needed resources can spread it across, being a way to help.

Nonetheless, in my country, we do not just leave the bereaved like that, we drop cash envelopes for them depending on the closeness. This, I believe is similar to "tong. " Though playing games could motivate one to play more against an opponent which could be more money for the bereaved.

I like this tradition because it could at least assist the family in raising small funds that could assist them in covering some expenses. In my country, the wake keep is usually used to share memories about the deceased. It is also a time to sing and dance solemn tones to comfort the family. But the family is also burdened with the responsibility of entertaining the people with food and drinks. But this culture is good because the family will also get some support.

Such cultural events in burials is not targeted at celebrating someone's death, that wil be very unacceptable. But it is a tradition that helps to encourage and make mourners feel less grief. Yes it is meant to be a solemn gathering but it is also a time to meet with relatives and friends and such traditional events makes the place lively. We are mourning doesn't mean that there will be no form of entertainment. In my location burials attract singers and dancers especially if the deceased is old or influential. Like I said before, OP stated that the gambling event I also support the grieving family financially.