Do you have this practice of gambling during one's wake - page 5.

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Quote from: uneng on February 26, 2024, 10:01:25 AM

Quote from: electronicash on February 26, 2024, 09:53:10 AM

not sure also whether we have a similar culture with other countries regarding this but probably the Latinos or the Hawaiians.

I live in Latin America, and it's not a common practice in the country where I live. Actually, I didn't even know people do this kind of thing, so it sounded really strange and uncommon to me, as something inappropriate for a situation where everyone adopts a formal stance towards each other, where people don't joke around, neither speak too loud, express joy or laugh. Wakes are very introspective occasions, where it seems each person reserves their time to reflect deeply and pay tribute silently to the person who has left us. In our culture, and western cultures in general, I think the least thing someone would think in a moment like that would be to gamble.

Death is a taboo in western cultures: a moment of sadness and despair in many cases, while gambling is related to joyness, excitement, leisure and pleasure. Therefore, people don't mix both.

It depends on the culture and the tradition this is normal for us I have stated in this thread that we do this to sympathize and to be with the family for the whole night, it's not like a fiesta celebration we do the gambling outside of the house while the family and those who want to sympathize are are inside the house, we usually have a tent outside of the house this is where people gamble and talks or just want to be in the premises.
But on the day of the burial, everything is solemn and full of sadness and sympathy for the family.
I guess we all have traditions that are very different from other countries when it comes to gambling and how they do it.

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Quote from: electronicash on February 26, 2024, 09:53:10 AM

not sure also whether we have a similar culture with other countries regarding this but probably the Latinos or the Hawaiians.

I live in Latin America, and it's not a common practice in the country where I live. Actually, I didn't even know people do this kind of thing, so it sounded really strange and uncommon to me, as something inappropriate for a situation where everyone adopts a formal stance towards each other, where people don't joke around, neither speak too loud, express joy or laugh. Wakes are very introspective occasions, where it seems each person reserves their time to reflect deeply and pay tribute silently to the person who has left us. In our culture, and western cultures in general, I think the least thing someone would think in a moment like that would be to gamble.

Death is a taboo in western cultures: a moment of sadness and despair in many cases, while gambling is related to joyness, excitement, leisure and pleasure. Therefore, people don't mix both.

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Quote from: 0t3p0t on February 26, 2024, 09:39:09 AM

Quote from: coin-investor on February 26, 2024, 09:01:20 AM

This is legal in our country provided that you ask permission from authorities, they allow gambling like card games and color games they allocate a fee, or what we call in our country a "tong" for the family of the bereaved so they can cover the expenses of the family during their hard times.
Do you have a similar practice in your country and is this legal in your country?

I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.

This is so familiar to me and I think we are on the same country as well. Common way to gamble during a wake is cara y cruz, card games, mahjong, chess and bingo here in my place. This actually varies from place to place depending on the availability of the games and or the bankers who will initiate the gambling but yeah this is legal in our country.

¿Cara y/o Cruz? Are you talking about Spain or Latin America? As I understand, this practice during the wake seems to be more common in Filipinas, Indonesia... but the name of the game you mentioned is in Spanish (isn't it "head or tails", or simply coin flip in English?), so I'm curious where are you writing for.

At least in Spain I have never heard about similar practice during the mourn (I have to confess that, fortunately, I have never been in one) so, as you all said, it seems something more cultural from certain regions than a general practice in different countries.

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not sure also whether we have a similar culture with other countries regarding this but probably the Latinos or the Hawaiians.

it's the easiest to learn when you are just 15 years old. a friend died of an overdose, his family owns a pharmacy.
i remember my first table card game at a friend's wake where a crowd surrounds the table while gamblers watch over my cards. those guys are going to look at how good you are at arranging cards in a game called "chikicha". 3 cards as head, then 5 cards as the body, and 5 below. i'm not sure what others call this game though.

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Sounds very quaint and traditional, I like the idea of a poker game with all the friends and relatives of the dead as a bonding thing. Better then most wakes in the west where its always too formal.

I would like to adopt such a tradition or specify it in a will. The license part is specific to a country we don't have that here but it could be done informally and/or by honor code especially across friends; anything similar here would be charity based or via the Church in some way which has a charity status legally. This has been done many times but in this case the organization is via community and independent of any one family so quite different I suppose.

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Quote from: coin-investor on February 26, 2024, 09:01:20 AM

This is legal in our country provided that you ask permission from authorities, they allow gambling like card games and color games they allocate a fee, or what we call in our country a "tong" for the family of the bereaved so they can cover the expenses of the family during their hard times.
Do you have a similar practice in your country and is this legal in your country?

I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.

This is so familiar to me and I think we are on the same country as well. Common way to gamble during a wake is cara y cruz, card games, mahjong, chess and bingo here in my place. This actually varies from place to place depending on the availability of the games and or the bankers who will initiate the gambling but yeah this is legal in our country.

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Quote from: Yatsan on February 26, 2024, 09:23:54 AM

In my perspective, such activities also help to have people awake over the night to have things on watch, which is just one of the benefit of it. People may view it negatively but culture is behind this.

I don't personally participate with gambling activities during a wake. The practice in my family is to use the moment to have talks with the relatives who are most of the time away. But there are indeed different practices. I even witnessed some families who are having kareoke or singing activities during a wake and for them it is just to make things lively, as their way of reminiscing the one who passed away. But I agree, gambling activities could be a part of a family practice or culture, it just depends on how it will be done or the purpose behind it. Gambling in the first place is an activity for entertainment and the involvement of money just adds intensity and thrill with the outcomes. And with negative impressions, it depends with gambler's intention. As long as it is legal to what country it is being performed then things would be fine. If gamblers who will practice such activities in any ocassions would be doing it with sense of responsibility, it will be acceptable morally and socially.

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I am familiar with this tradition and when I was a kid I do really thought that it is a bad thing and that people should focus more with the mourn and not with activities involving money or gambling to be more specific. As I grow up and learned that it is helping the family in the wake, and yes financially. It also adds "bond" to people who attended the wake in some ways. But there are people who are not having the intention to mourn; they're only visiting the wake because of these activities. Is it a bad thing? Morally, yes however no matter how we look at it, it is indeed legal and with approval from the family of the wake.

Gambling activities are often card games such as poker and a game 'bingo' if others are familiar with it. In my perspective, such activities also help to have people awake over the night to have things on watch, which is just one of the benefit of it. People may view it negatively but culture is behind this.

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This is legal in our country provided that you ask permission from authorities, they allow gambling like card games and color games they allocate a fee, or what we call in our country a "tong" for the family of the bereaved so they can cover the expenses of the family during their hard times.
Do you have a similar practice in your country and is this legal in your country?

I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.

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