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Quote from: hyudien on March 13, 2024, 07:59:26 AM

gambling is something that is just for fun, now if gambling is made the main source of income then what will happen is a big problem. where finances will become a mess and it can destroy our lives. Some people who experience big losses are likely people who gamble with the aim of making money, so that when they win they are not only happy, but they are also more confident in gambling which can provide bigger wins.
I think it is almost impossible for gambling to be used as a means of raising funds, but I don't know exactly how, that's just my own opinion. because as far as I know, those who own casinos also aim to make profits and gains for themselves or to develop their gambling to make it even bigger.

If many gamblers know about that and consider gambling is just for having fun and not the main source of income, they will not try to playing gambling too hard because that will not makes them have a chance to win much money. If they can do that, they will just having fun and not thinks about win or lose because they knows that gambling is not gives the opportunity to makes money. Many people already experiences big losses so we must prevents that happens to us by always limits our gambling activity and knowing how much money we must used. If we can takes care ourselves when playing gambling, we will gets the fun of playing gambling and not thinking about making money from gambling. The house will takes the biggest profit from the gamblers because that's their business and they can gets the profit easily than the gamblers. It is why we must used self-control to prevent the big losses and still have a chance to having fun from playing gambling.

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This is legal in our country provided that you ask permission from authorities, they allow gambling like card games and color games they allocate a fee, or what we call in our country a "tong" for the family of the bereaved so they can cover the expenses of the family during their hard times.
Do you have a similar practice in your country and is this legal in your country?

I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.

i never heard of this practice before, but with the way of explanation on how this is being played and intended for, its a game that is good and at least have a possible ideal way of helping the family of the bereaved left behind, but i don't know if the process in playing the card colours has anything to do with winning or not in other for the family to receive the benefits and
to play such, also if any random relative or friends can join in playing such, or only the family are permitted to play such

When it comes to this kind of approach on where making some gambling cards game or having that tong for the sake of increasing it for the benefit of the bereaved family then it would really be that
a nice idea but just like been said by others that if you are really that tending to make some donation then it would be made out directly and this is something on which it would really be
possible if you are really that tending to make donations for the affected family. As for personal approach then it would be better that you should be that having that kind of consideration in speaking
if you are really that tending to help. When it comes to culture then each country does have that different culture. I dont see these things on other countries.

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I'm sure the person who died was the head of the family who has the main role as the person who earns a living to support all his family, but this method or practice seems a bit strange. How can we really make money in gambling to help support the family that has been left behind while the outcome of gambling is always about uncertainty and in addition there is the risk of losing your money at any time without you expecting it.

Honestly I've only heard of this tradition because in my place it's really unheard of when someone dies, and usually the situation is full of grief which makes us have to really maintain manners and ethics to others especially the family left behind when in a sad situation like that, in our place gambling has a pretty negative viewpoint overall and it makes it impossible for me to do things that tend to lead to gambling activities when in a sad situation, but yes every country or place has its own traditions and customs and we have to respect them.

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Quote from: Wiwo on March 10, 2024, 05:59:08 PM

Wake keeping in some places is a time of morning regardless of the age of the deceased, and for that games which is a fun activities will not be entertained in such a situation and such no one will bring such idea of playing games at all, and that is why, this kind of games are not popular in most of the world, and since gambling is fundamentally for fun and not money generation, so whatever the aim may be either to raise funds to support or go along with a particular situation it doesn't matter it won't be entertained.

So for that, there are other ways that they will employ according to the peculiarity of their environment and situations, so for that, I haven't seen such a situation where gambling is organized as a fundraising means since this practice is not available in my country, although gambling is legal though.

I agree with you, indeed gambling is something that is just for fun, now if gambling is made the main source of income then what will happen is a big problem. where finances will become a mess and it can destroy our lives. Some people who experience big losses are likely people who gamble with the aim of making money, so that when they win they are not only happy, but they are also more confident in gambling which can provide bigger wins.
I think it is almost impossible for gambling to be used as a means of raising funds, but I don't know exactly how, that's just my own opinion. because as far as I know, those who own casinos also aim to make profits and gains for themselves or to develop their gambling to make it even bigger.

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Quote from: coin-investor on February 26, 2024, 09:01:20 AM

This is legal in our country provided that you ask permission from authorities, they allow gambling like card games and color games they allocate a fee, or what we call in our country a "tong" for the family of the bereaved so they can cover the expenses of the family during their hard times.
Do you have a similar practice in your country and is this legal in your country?

I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.

i never heard of this practice before, but with the way of explanation on how this is being played and intended for, its a game that is good and at least have a possible ideal way of helping the family of the bereaved left behind, but i don't know if the process in playing the card colours has anything to do with winning or not in other for the family to receive the benefits and
to play such, also if any random relative or friends can join in playing such, or only the family are permitted to play such

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Quote from: coin-investor on February 26, 2024, 09:01:20 AM

This is legal in our country provided that you ask permission from authorities, they allow gambling like card games and color games they allocate a fee, or what we call in our country a "tong" for the family of the bereaved so they can cover the expenses of the family during their hard times.
Do you have a similar practice in your country and is this legal in your country?

I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.

Yeah, this is part of our tradition already in our country and it is to help the family raised money to help in the expense. Not sure if this is just unique for Filipinos or when it did start. And the usual card games, to keep us awake and I think this is my early exposure to gambling itself as anyone can watch the games even if you are still very young.

@Crypt0Gore - we don't view it that way, perhaps it's just a way to what the OP said, the winner of let's say lucky 9 (a form of baccarat that is well known in our country and usually one of the games that we played in the wake), will give part of his winnings we call it tong) to the families to help cover the burial expenses or anything.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/2tu4nf/why_does_the_funerals_here_at_the_philippines/

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Quote from: dezoel on March 13, 2024, 07:24:05 AM

This is something completely new to me and I have never heard of this tradition before. Every country or region has different cultures and traditions for anything they do, in the region where I live, we don't do such things but it is just that friends and relatives of the family come and stay with them for a few days and take care of expenses and stuff while the family is mourning just to give them some relief from other tensions while they are already in extreme grief.

I'm hearing for the first time that to support the family of the deceased, the friends and families or people that come to the wake gamble while they are together to collect gambling fees to support the family, sounds very kind and sympathetic to me.

I believe this is from the Philippines. The gambling part is not really necessary, it’s just a way of people being sympathetic to the deceased by entertaining themselves in the form of gambling then give the commission every game to the family.

But anyone can give financial support directly to the deceased family without doing any gambling. Since wake is done here during night until dawn, people want something to wake them while they are still the deceased. This way the deceased family feels support from many people for being there until morning.

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This is something completely new to me and I have never heard of this tradition before. Every country or region has different cultures and traditions for anything they do, in the region where I live, we don't do such things but it is just that friends and relatives of the family come and stay with them for a few days and take care of expenses and stuff while the family is mourning just to give them some relief from other tensions while they are already in extreme grief.

I'm hearing for the first time that to support the family of the deceased, the friends and families or people that come to the wake gamble while they are together to collect gambling fees to support the family, sounds very kind and sympathetic to me.

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Wake keeping should be a silent moment filled with prayers to send off the deceased to a better place but traditions can't be the same, some prefer to make noises and dancing, but for some it's a mourning moment where families and friends gathered to talk about the good things that the deceased have done in his life.

Gambling doesn't make sense to me on such days, I feel like it's wrong, since the day that I was born I have never heard about this before, maybe some countries are doing this? I would like to know.

For my people this feels very wrong, I've never seen such happen and it will never happen because all the tribes in my country don't do such thing, it doesn't give value to the deceased, in short it looks like a lack of respect for the dead, maybe I am wrong, what is wrong in a country can be right in another.

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Quote from: coin-investor on February 26, 2024, 09:01:20 AM

This is legal in our country provided that you ask permission from authorities, they allow gambling like card games and color games they allocate a fee, or what we call in our country a "tong" for the family of the bereaved so they can cover the expenses of the family during their hard times.
Do you have a similar practice in your country and is this legal in your country?

I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.

This one is very familiar to me because here in my country, especially in province. when there's a burial, automatically there is also a place called "Saklaan", wherein there is a tent area outside the house and all the gamblers are stationed there, people often do this to help the financial needs of the families of the deceased and so that the family can use something for the the deceased burial. This has become a tradition in our country, especially when the deceased person is at home and it is legal that's why many people come to gamble, even young people play there and they really make the most of the day when there is something like this.

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Quote from: asyakashi on March 01, 2024, 03:33:10 PM

I don't do the practice when I wake up, and I tend to avoid it. For me, it's unusual, maybe because we have different countries and traditions, and maybe if I were in your country, I would definitely like to do it.

Of course, those are the two main reasons that make it alien to you but if you peradventure visited a place where you were able to witness such, you will most certainly do it to encourage the bereaved, well, at least me. But when you are not in the same country, you may not see such, and even if you are in the same country, the locality/community you are in matters. Just like in my country, the division is many because we have over 170 tribes in just a country. So, what they are doing in the North and East of the country could be so strange to me, but in my place, we do not have any unusual practices that can be strange to them.

Even in the East and North, many communities still have their strange practices that their fellow Easterners would not just know of, that's how deep it is. The world is large, and we should expect strange traditions like this when we are far from home.

Immediately I first saw this post last month, I knew it would be done in the Asian part of the world, and when people replied to my first post, they stated that the tradition "Tong" is commonly practised in the Philippines, which made my suspicions right. Strangest practices are happening in the Asian part of the world, so brace yourself when you visit such a place.

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Quote from: dothebeats on March 10, 2024, 03:55:07 PM

They say that the proceeds of the said gambling activity will go towards the family of the dead, so I try and play with other people even though I believe that such a venue is not appropriate for the said activity. I don't overdo it though. I never really stayed there gambling for hours. Perhaps just doing it out of respect to the dead is enough, or just to help them raise money and that's it. It's a weird tradition that legalizes even the illegal forms of gambling during a wake, but if it helps the family then I'm okay with it.

It would be something that will be beneficial indeed and for those people who do tend to do gambling just to have that tong becomes bigger then it wont really be that a huge problem
but if you are really that not a gambler then you could just simply just give out money to the said family that had been affected on which it is more viable rather than on making yourself
pushed through on playing gambling even if you dont know on how to gamble but if you are someone who do love to enjoy at the same time you are helping
the family then it would be your choice.

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Quote from: Kristiyana on March 10, 2024, 05:34:24 PM

You're absolutely right,there are some other games that you can use to keep up with friends and not gambling, gambling during wake keeping doesn't make any sense to me either.unlike as you Said that even without the game, that they will still supply the family of the bereaved in other ways, I think you make a good point there. However even the church can support them, that's if the family do go to church, unlike as we do in my church.

Wake keeping in some places is a time of morning regardless of the age of the deceased, and for that games which is a fun activities will not be entertained in such a situation and such no one will bring such idea of playing games at all, and that is why, this kind of games are not popular in most of the world, and since gambling is fundamentally for fun and not money generation, so whatever the aim may be either to raise funds to support or go along with a particular situation it doesn't matter it won't be entertained.

So for that, there are other ways that they will employ according to the peculiarity of their environment and situations, so for that, I haven't seen such a situation where gambling is organized as a fundraising means since this practice is not available in my country, although gambling is legal though.

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I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.

Talking about covering of expenses, is it that the wake keeps game or gambling is meant to raise money for the bereaved family to sort their bills or what is it for?

This kind of gambling is still new to me and what I know about wake keep and burial is that the family take care of the expenses and the running cost till the days of the burial are over and what support given by friends and well-wishers is not mandatory but an act of benevolence, solidarity and conscience.

The overall idea may not be far from that, raising money to support the bereaved family and that is why it close friends that come together to organise such games or events, this is some form of age-mate meeting and even without the games, they will still supply the family of the bereaved in other ways.

In this part of the world, that kind of game is not popular but we still have some other activities that are done in the form of such games but not betting anyways, in in form of friends coming together to raise funds to support the bereaved friend and family.

You're absolutely right,there are some other games that you can use to keep up with friends and not gambling, gambling during wake keeping doesn't make any sense to me either.unlike as you Said that even without the game, that they will still supply the family of the bereaved in other ways, I think you make a good point there. However even the church can support them, that's if the family do go to church, unlike as we do in my church.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on February 26, 2024, 10:40:39 AM

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I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.

Talking about covering of expenses, is it that the wake keeps game or gambling is meant to raise money for the bereaved family to sort their bills or what is it for?

This kind of gambling is still new to me and what I know about wake keep and burial is that the family take care of the expenses and the running cost till the days of the burial are over and what support given by friends and well-wishers is not mandatory but an act of benevolence, solidarity and conscience.

The overall idea may not be far from that, raising money to support the bereaved family and that is why it close friends that come together to organise such games or events, this is some form of age-mate meeting and even without the games, they will still supply the family of the bereaved in other ways.

In this part of the world, that kind of game is not popular but we still have some other activities that are done in the form of such games but not betting anyways, in in form of friends coming together to raise funds to support the bereaved friend and family.

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Quote from: dothebeats on March 10, 2024, 03:55:07 PM

They say that the proceeds of the said gambling activity will go towards the family of the dead, so I try and play with other people even though I believe that such a venue is not appropriate for the said activity. I don't overdo it though. I never really stayed there gambling for hours. Perhaps just doing it out of respect to the dead is enough, or just to help them raise money and that's it. It's a weird tradition that legalizes even the illegal forms of gambling during a wake, but if it helps the family then I'm okay with it.

Although it seems like a good idea to help the family of someone who has passed away by participating in gambling events where the money will be directed towards them, one should always remember that gambling involves a substantial amount of financial risk. Even though you may think it’s an opportunity to contribute something or remember the deceased, the potential negative consequences must not be overlooked.

Moreover, when choosing a place or an event that is not appropriate for this kind of activity, ethical concerns may also be at stake. Participation in gambling can aid and abet injurious or illicit actions in any unlicensed and improperly selected places. Otherwise, many other means exist through which to support such families without involving gambling as the only viable option, including direct donation or moral and psychological help.

While it may be true that you have good intentions, it is equally essential to think about the potential outcome of taking part in gambling activities, and also to try other means of helping bereaved families rather than risking financial or moral jeopardy.

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They say that the proceeds of the said gambling activity will go towards the family of the dead, so I try and play with other people even though I believe that such a venue is not appropriate for the said activity. I don't overdo it though. I never really stayed there gambling for hours. Perhaps just doing it out of respect to the dead is enough, or just to help them raise money and that's it. It's a weird tradition that legalizes even the illegal forms of gambling during a wake, but if it helps the family then I'm okay with it.

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Quote from: Natsuu on February 27, 2024, 07:07:19 AM

Well basically in some places, it's common to play games during funerals to support the grieving family. People contribute a fee to help cover expenses. Whether it's legal depends on local rules and traditions so it's good to keep things in line with what's accepted in your area. In my country, playing games during wakes and pitching in is a common thing and it's called sugalan. It's like a community way to help out the grieving family with expenses

Rather in some other countries, what is done is to donate to the family or do a contribution to help the family take care of the finance of the burial. Some people buy drinks and other preparatory things, some give cash gift. I have not witnessed gambling at the funeral ground for the sake of generating funds for the bereaved family. Well tradition and culture really differ from region to region.

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Quote from: coin-investor on February 26, 2024, 09:01:20 AM

This is legal in our country provided that you ask permission from authorities, they allow gambling like card games and color games they allocate a fee, or what we call in our country a "tong" for the family of the bereaved so they can cover the expenses of the family during their hard times.
Do you have a similar practice in your country and is this legal in your country?

I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.

We are in the same country and one more information about this,

This is legal, however, there are some who abuse and use this tong as their reason to gamble. That's why a lot of people are using this gambling during wake to execute illegal gambling. They set up a fake funeral and play card games, running like a mini-casino where a lot of players are playing different card games at different tables.

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Quote from: alastantiger on March 10, 2024, 02:34:37 PM

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Do you have a similar practice in your country and is this legal in your country?

I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.

Wow. This is a pretty interesting practice. I haven't heard of it before. If it is comfortable with you, what country is it. I would like to know more about it.

In my country, wake are always quite solemn depending on the age of the person who has passed on. What happens there is more of a religious ceremony where there is a priest, a sermon, and singing of hymns. There are no games, just some good music and dance to celebrate the life of the deceased but his depends on the age of the person who passed on.

Usually it is on Asian countries Ex. Philippines.

In the Philippines, gambling isn’t just a past time, but a way to honor the dead. Betting games, mah jong, and card tables are often set up at Filipino wakes, or paglalamay, where the tradition is to keep a 24-hour vigil over the deceased until the burial.
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Different countries does have that different culture and it is indeed shocking into those who arent aware of this kind of practice
but well it do happens.

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