Topic: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? - page 21. (Read 10665 times)

actually it is.
in america ~$0.75 of every vaccine purchased goes into the government compensation trust.
thus its the same as a private insurance 'premium'.. just that compensation trust is held by government and not private insurance

the underwriter has worked out that for a true disabling adverse reaction of 1:1m that 75c makes an allowance of upto $750k per true claimant.

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if pharma did have their own private liability insurance. the vaccine would cost government $1.50 more. and also the vaccine would have been delayeed by 3 months+ per phase. meaning bureucratic delays of a vaccine being released to public12 months later than it would.

also citizens filing claims against the pharma liability insurance would cause more costs to the citizen to file the claim(lawyers/court costs) and delays of upto 3 years before getting a verdict due to standard defense court delay tactics (take the craig wright court case.. its been a couple years because CSW is delaying things)

Lol. People get compensated, but it isn't by the medical who harms them.

the multi-national corporations are not absolved of responsibility. they are absolved of the admin of talking to citizens direct. citizens file their claims against the government. because in essense all a government is is a citizen management company. its then the government that behind the scenes that penalises corporations. basically taking the stress and hassle off the citizens hands

citizens still have a path to compensation. but instead of going to court with insurance company A. where a citizen needs a laywer and about a year of time wasted. you simple stay home and fill in a form with a government department.
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take retail goods. when something goes wrong. you can either contact the manufacturer and go through their lengthy warrenty process, sending goods off. hoping it comes back repaired and hoping not lost in mail. or you can go back to the retailer and ask for a refund/exchange and leave the retailer with the headache of dealing with the manufacturer.

what you actually learn. is that the way the vaccine compensation scheme works in many countries. citizens actually have more rights via government scheme, than what they would have if they had to sue a vaccine insurer

Where I'm at, the rich people who live in mansions are digging into their pockets to buy so-called vaccines ('Western' genetic re-programing variety only it seems) for poor people who live in squatter's shacks.  The govt's role seems to be limited to getting signatures on documents (absolving the multi-national corporations of responsibility for anything which might 'go wrong'.)

Not sayin' anything...just sayin'...

Where do they get the money to pay for the vaccines? Don't they get it from people who are against vaccines as well as those who are in favor of it? Why are they making people who are against vaccines pay for vaccines that they will never get, and that they are against?... people like most of the medical people?

Why are you so negative about the government? Didn't they just ordered 100 million doses of the vaccine from Astrazeneca? We shouldn't be too hard on our governments because they don't have experience either with managing such a global pandemic. In my opinion it's new for everybody.

yep mistakes that could have been avoided

1. repatriation flights:- he shoulda just paid those abroad to stay abroad. giving time to sort out track and trace for people going to airports before then later doing self isolation for those returning

2. PPE supplies:- get the PPE orders in during januray/february.. not march-may

3. isolating/shielding:- not providing good support for those isolating/sheilding. he relied on councils, who relied on foodbanks. government should have just done a mass stock purchase from grocery store supliers, farmers, etc and sorted good deliveries so that people could healthily isolate without having to go to supermarkets themselves

4. school meals:- just feed the kids. dont make it political

5. nightingale hospitals:- beds and ventilators are not enough. dialisys, ecmo, mobile scanners/xrays should have been sourced too. most of the nightingales are used for those needing to be screened/tested and then passed forward to hospital for real treatment(avoid er overflow). or those leaving hospital but not yet fully fit to go home(avoid wasted normally used for recovery)

6. trains and buses:- rules were too relaxed. he didnt get train companies to put on more carriages to allow spaced out passengers. overcrowding has always been a problem due to lack of carriages and boris let it happen. there are many spare carriages warehoused and not used(train operators profit if they can squeeze more people into less carriages)

7. track and trace. should have been localised where people can run around making mobile phone calls to contact while on foot knocking on doors and putting letters in letterboxes. (also adding the isolation/sheilding checkups that ensure people are staying home)

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government has no issue with financing bombs when they want to invade a country. but when a virus invades us. he is slow to react.
government pre-plan war/invasions 6months-3years ahead. by recruiting more soldiers and making more vehicles/vessels. yet 9 months after we get invaded by a virus. they way behind

I felt bad for Boris and co for a short while in the beginning this is not a situation he was every expected to be forced to take charge of. However, week after week after week he has proved himself not only incapable of handling COVID ( which I could forgive him) but incapbale of handling any sort of situation without huge amounts of self interest and a clear lack of integrity.

the science/medical side have been very good. but boris is playing juggling balls with the SAGE in one ear and the treasury in the other ear. and he leans more so to the treasury every time

school teachers union. yep teachers themselves that are frontline handling the kids and know best. have been saying keep the schools closed. but boris wanted to open them so kids can go school and parents can go work.
all because he doesnt want to pay out furlough payments.
kids actually learn more googling topics rather than the lengthy old-school teaching methods.
but now sage has made him realise theres too much hospital occupancy thus a lockdown is needed where parents should stay home. obviously they can take care of the kids so he reactively backs down from the keep schools open option

^^^ Covid is a big problem. But it isn't a virus problem. Rather it's a fraud problem. Check the statistics and data all over the place. There's so much fraud involved in Covid reporting of every kind, that it makes the US election fraud look like a picnic on the beach.

I'm sick of the reactive approach to tackling this Virus the current UK Gov is the worst of all time and arguable the most arrogant. Questioning why I pay my taxes. I may be being naive but I do belive covid is a huge problem and we must tackle it. I don't think waiting for things to be worse than last time then acting is a particularly good strategy.

the new strain is of statistical interest. but over all covid only spreads by HUMAN choice to mingle and congregate. there is more evidence that people are ignoring the social distance advice. aswell as the human choices of letting school kids mingle. and shops stay open where people dont keep 2metres in the aisles

the new strain is good for track and trace because they can see how it moves around the country to look at ways of spread via car/train to different counties. but the method of spread is actually human decision
EG they seen it came from spain then wales then london. then expanded alot in london then went everywhere else, showing that it was the welsh having sunny holidays in spain during summer that imported a different strain than what was going around uk in 2019. (shoulda not allowed foreign flights)

I agree with all of this.

UK is having a tough time with deaths per capita highest amongst first world countries and are announcing lockdowns when they had more than enough time to prepare.

Gets me thinking how much of this is in response to the new strain.

That's one way to get them Scotts to cut back on their moonshine. Do you really think it's gonna work? Lol

england too
i think its needed if you look at how many are going into hospital. the hospital system is starting to max out. issues with procuring oxygen tanks.

personally i think with the 9 months of covid the government had plenty of time to retrofit triple capacity oxygen storage and also sort out excess supply to pre-empt all this. aswell as sorting out the nightingale temp hospitals with more resource than just ventilators as covid is not just a oxygen deprivation thing. it requires multiple treatments for multiple organs and the nightingales should have been fitted with everthing

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-55531069

New Scotland lockdowns!

I have done no research into how many cases Scotland is facing besides the figure stated in the article which is a 15% positivity rate. You think lockdowns would be driven by the mortality rate and hospital capacity because it's a good thing to identify cases. You identify the cases and have those individuals isolate to prevent further spread to those more vulnerable. At least, this was the argument given to people in the US back in March -- whole purpose was to lockdown in order to reduce healthcare strain so we don't go overcapacity (every country in the first world was following this guideline).

They've also closed schools which is just lovely.

No doubt about he plays in the team. World is better of without the evil three 3 P's politicians, police, priests
Imagine harmony, joy and togetherness

For when you pick up the vaccine at the amazon drop box because going some place with other people is way to dangerous and vaccinate yourself
Retractable Syringe Needle
https://youtu.be/2uz1YsCwc4k

That is all it will take to get the massive number of 'orange man bad' idiots totally on-board with whatever shit corp/gov feeds them (or inject into them.)

The funny thing is that Trump is almost certainly on the same team.  He can, in action, support everything corp/gov wants and if the 'orange man good' idiots even notice they can be induced to write it off to '5-D chess'.

When in doubt just call it covid, the bogeyman