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legendary
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December 30, 2020, 06:02:50 PM
Going to any institution with 'covid-19' seems very risky if said institution gets extra money for treating such patients.  Seems like if they are running out of room they'll kill you as quickly as possible to make room for other $39,000 government checks.  Seems like that was what was happening at Elmhurst in NYC, but they were doing mostly homeless and indigent people with no family that way.

you are reading debunked and outdated scripts from march-may
you are fuy out of date and debunked.

ill explain this once more although i feel i have explained this to you and the other conspiracy nuts several times in different topics

hospitals do not get $39k for just scribbling down covid.
they get paid per task. EG set amounts for using meds, or doing scans or putting on ventilators
those diagnostics are logged. the scans are linked and the procedures are signed off and done and witnessed.
the amounts accumilate depending on how severe the patient gets and how many procedures are needed to be done. .. its not a set fee


so if a patient has just a cough and fever they would not be put onto ards. and no ards procedures done so no ards payment.

yes in some hospitals in february some untrained doctors from the ER department were put onto ICU wards and done wrong things. but those doctors were reprimanded and made to leave the ICU within hours.

i debunked this back before summer when badecker quoted an american ER doctor temporarilly on a ICU ward putting patients onto ARDS protocol. and he was soon dismissed due to it

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screw it ill even give you the conspiracy quote and how its been further hihjacked deeper into fantasy land

"typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000."

translation.
the diagnostics section can add upt to $5k if everything is done. but can be cheaper if less is done
if it is then proceded to then do lung xrays and using a nasel canular. and having that oygen therapy for upto 2 weeks. then that can add upto $13k. but less time on oxygen means less cost
if they then need full ventilation. then again this can add more costs whereby each day on it accumilates more cost. where the max total of smeone having every procedure/test/diagnostic. and then needing all the treatments and ards protocol for a length of say 1 month.. could total $39k

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as a separate note. just to put some facts infront you of
if 2 patients where sick. and one had covid and someone had say MERS but both had the same symptom severity and end of life result. where all diagnostics and all scans and all treatments were the same and for the exact same time length.

then and only then if a hospital is classed as a rural hospital(not easy access to diagnostics tools) they would only get a 20% extra on their charges if the patient had covid

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in no cases in no hospitals do they automatically get $39k just for writing 'covid' on a report

doctors dont just write covid. their diagnosis have to be backed up by known symptoms/tests/scans/treatments. and its these tests/scans/treatments that have individual costings and also policies in place as to whats acceptable to perform or not
legendary
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December 30, 2020, 04:27:42 PM
https://apnews.com/article/health-monroe-louisiana-coronavirus-pandemic-shreveport-c76bcda2e5abd46a500763ed5a7e3440

Republican congress-elect for the US house dies of COVID, being just 41 years old. If you believe this is a scam or a fake virus, the scam must run extremely deep because the someone decided to off a US congress person.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the highest ranking US official to die, yes?

"...complications related to COVID-19" eh, Associated Press?  That euphemism can be and has been used to describe a motorcycle accident.  More likely he 'died' due to complications related to being a creepy pedo or some such which is seems to be a prerequisite to holding 'elected office' in the Ju.S.A. these days.  'Complications' like 'about to be outed.'



https://www.nola.com/news/coronavirus/article_87489d82-4a47-11eb-9583-f3e4fa6891c1.html

No underlying health conditions. His doctors are shocked.

There are anomalies always but the norm is that 41 year olds should not be dying from this thing. I still believe if you are young and healthy you should be fine. The 40-60 range is kinda pushing it though. Not many deaths according to CDC data in that age range, but still enough to probably warrant a vaccine.

Says in plain English that he was under treatment generally and on remdesivir specifically.  Seems a lot more risky than 'covid-19' if one wants to play the numbers.

Going to any institution with 'covid-19' seems very risky if said institution gets extra money for treating such patients.  Seems like if they are running out of room they'll kill you as quickly as possible to make room for other $39,000 government checks.  Seems like that was what was happening at Elmhurst in NYC, but they were doing mostly homeless and indigent people with no family that way.




Are you saying that Remdesivir contributed to his death? They aren't using Remdesivir unless the guy is already on his death bed. Someone in his age demographic is supposed to experience light to moderate symptoms, if any. His condition deteriorated and they started using medications to treat him.

He was probably on his way to death if Remdesivir is being used for someone in their 40's.
legendary
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December 30, 2020, 01:14:31 PM
Do you think COVID19 is a scam?


COVID19 is not a scam. It is a serious method for Big Pharma to make a lot of money off the people, even though multitudes of people get harmed or killed.


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December 30, 2020, 08:19:34 AM
It's still a scamdemic.Academic and media bumblefucks vomiting data about the ins an out of viruses are like tools sitting in a burning building explaining to the residents how fire works deflecting from the fact the building is on fire Grin BLM was only the entertainment during the interlude  Cool all part of the plan.Climate emergency next once enough peeps are turned on each another over the rabble vax as the already in place infrastructure is rolled out Grin

green wave blah Blue wave blah blah .."3rd wave" ;-) ;-) blah rebellion blah climate crisis blah unvaccinated infidels blah black v white blah crisis crisis crisis  blah blah men v women blah rabble rabble rabble blah

Merry Christmas.

    

legendary
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December 30, 2020, 08:03:26 AM
https://apnews.com/article/health-monroe-louisiana-coronavirus-pandemic-shreveport-c76bcda2e5abd46a500763ed5a7e3440

Republican congress-elect for the US house dies of COVID, being just 41 years old. If you believe this is a scam or a fake virus, the scam must run extremely deep because the someone decided to off a US congress person.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the highest ranking US official to die, yes?

"...complications related to COVID-19" eh, Associated Press?  That euphemism can be and has been used to describe a motorcycle accident.  More likely he 'died' due to complications related to being a creepy pedo or some such which is seems to be a prerequisite to holding 'elected office' in the Ju.S.A. these days.  'Complications' like 'about to be outed.'



https://www.nola.com/news/coronavirus/article_87489d82-4a47-11eb-9583-f3e4fa6891c1.html

No underlying health conditions. His doctors are shocked.

There are anomalies always but the norm is that 41 year olds should not be dying from this thing. I still believe if you are young and healthy you should be fine. The 40-60 range is kinda pushing it though. Not many deaths according to CDC data in that age range, but still enough to probably warrant a vaccine.

Says in plain English that he was under treatment generally and on remdesivir specifically.  Seems a lot more risky than 'covid-19' if one wants to play the numbers.

Going to any institution with 'covid-19' seems very risky if said institution gets extra money for treating such patients.  Seems like if they are running out of room they'll kill you as quickly as possible to make room for other $39,000 government checks.  Seems like that was what was happening at Elmhurst in NYC, but they were doing mostly homeless and indigent people with no family that way.

legendary
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December 30, 2020, 07:49:39 AM
https://apnews.com/article/health-monroe-louisiana-coronavirus-pandemic-shreveport-c76bcda2e5abd46a500763ed5a7e3440

Republican congress-elect for the US house dies of COVID, being just 41 years old. If you believe this is a scam or a fake virus, the scam must run extremely deep because the someone decided to off a US congress person.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the highest ranking US official to die, yes?

"...complications related to COVID-19" eh, Associated Press?  That euphemism can be and has been used to describe a motorcycle accident.  More likely he 'died' due to complications related to being a creepy pedo or some such which is seems to be a prerequisite to holding 'elected office' in the Ju.S.A. these days.  'Complications' like 'about to be outed.'



https://www.nola.com/news/coronavirus/article_87489d82-4a47-11eb-9583-f3e4fa6891c1.html

No underlying health conditions. His doctors are shocked.

There are anomalies always but the norm is that 41 year olds should not be dying from this thing. I still believe if you are young and healthy you should be fine. The 40-60 range is kinda pushing it though. Not many deaths according to CDC data in that age range, but still enough to probably warrant a vaccine.
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December 30, 2020, 04:36:11 AM


How ironic when common sense debunks your conspiracies.

Common sense is a good sense and sound judgment in practical matters. - Oxford Dictionary

Assuming something based on just a minor details is not common sense, it is plain stupidity. Common sense can be associated when you realize something and judge it based on evidences existed, scientifically and logically.

legendary
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December 30, 2020, 03:48:07 AM
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It's impressive the way you're able to rationalize to yourself that none of this is real.

It's impressive the way you can have such confidence in people who have been repeatedly caught lying.


Maybe I'm in on it.

In your case probably not.  That's my estimate at this point.

The design goal is to have most people go from 'it's a crazy conspiracy theory' -> 'wow, those crazy conspiracy theory guys may have been on to something...what was that they were saying about {foo}?' -> 'it's obvious and we are so glad to have wealthy people developing these programs to save us'.  I'd put you into the 'run-of-the-mill peep who is making the transition as designed' category.

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December 30, 2020, 02:42:05 AM

I remember back in April when you would post data every day on the countries that hadn't been hit yet thinking it was proof that the whole thing was hoax made up by the countries that were reporting new cases and deaths.

What happened?
legendary
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December 30, 2020, 02:41:11 AM


such a shame that you keep quoting media sites and not realise they are media sites.
yep cultish conspiracy sites are media too
such a shame you dont use common sense.

maybe one day you will have common sense to actually check the sites you view. actually find the factual sources behind the opinion pieces you quote and ensure that they actually have sources and not just pure speculation/lies. heck maybe oneday you will just stop repeating opinion pieces of media verbatim, pretending its your opinion.

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December 30, 2020, 02:32:15 AM
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December 30, 2020, 01:21:24 AM
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It's impressive the way you're able to rationalize to yourself that none of this is real.

It's impressive the way you can have such confidence in people who have been repeatedly caught lying.



Maybe I'm in on it.
legendary
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December 30, 2020, 12:11:26 AM
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It's impressive the way you're able to rationalize to yourself that none of this is real.

It's impressive the way you can have such confidence in people who have been repeatedly caught lying.

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December 30, 2020, 12:02:40 AM
https://apnews.com/article/health-monroe-louisiana-coronavirus-pandemic-shreveport-c76bcda2e5abd46a500763ed5a7e3440

Republican congress-elect for the US house dies of COVID, being just 41 years old. If you believe this is a scam or a fake virus, the scam must run extremely deep because the someone decided to off a US congress person.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the highest ranking US official to die, yes?

"...complications related to COVID-19" eh, Associated Press?  That euphemism can be and has been used to describe a motorcycle accident.  More likely he 'died' due to complications related to being a creepy pedo or some such which is seems to be a prerequisite to holding 'elected office' in the Ju.S.A. these days.  'Complications' like 'about to be outed.'



Positive test on the 18t, hospitalized within a week.
ICU on the 23rd.
Dead on the 29th.






It's impressive the way you're able to rationalize to yourself that none of this is real.
legendary
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December 29, 2020, 10:54:16 PM
https://apnews.com/article/health-monroe-louisiana-coronavirus-pandemic-shreveport-c76bcda2e5abd46a500763ed5a7e3440

Republican congress-elect for the US house dies of COVID, being just 41 years old. If you believe this is a scam or a fake virus, the scam must run extremely deep because the someone decided to off a US congress person.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the highest ranking US official to die, yes?

"...complications related to COVID-19" eh, Associated Press?  That euphemism can be and has been used to describe a motorcycle accident.  More likely he 'died' due to complications related to being a creepy pedo or some such which is seems to be a prerequisite to holding 'elected office' in the Ju.S.A. these days.  'Complications' like 'about to be outed.'

legendary
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December 29, 2020, 10:29:48 PM
https://apnews.com/article/health-monroe-louisiana-coronavirus-pandemic-shreveport-c76bcda2e5abd46a500763ed5a7e3440

Republican congress-elect for the US house dies of COVID, being just 41 years old. If you believe this is a scam or a fake virus, the scam must run extremely deep because the someone decided to off a US congress person.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the highest ranking US official to die, yes?
legendary
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December 29, 2020, 04:14:56 PM
The CDC stopped recording data on the flu and pneumonia back in July. They did this because there wasn't enough to keep on tracking it. But there was this whole big batch of Covid-19 around... kinda suddenly.

Other years we had flu and pneumonia, but no Covid-19. This year, no flu and pneumonia, but lots of Covid-19. Do you think that the medical coaxed flu and pneumonia into becoming Covid-19? Maybe they paid them to change their ways.

That's it! The medical paid flu and pneumonia off to change into Covid-19. So F&P get a break with a whole bunch of money to spend, while Covid-19 makes sure that they are sucking the money out of the people.

Of course, since they are really the same thing, F&P are still working under the false front called Covid-19. "We want a true break," they call, "not just a change in name!"

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December 29, 2020, 04:00:31 PM
Anyone that's waded through some of the covid threads and been amazed at how many seemingly intelligent people buy into ridiculous conspiracy theories will find this interesting: 

The Original Plandemic: Unmasking The Eerily Familiar Conspiracy Theories Behind The Russian Flu Of 1889
legendary
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December 27, 2020, 02:37:54 PM
Back in July, the CDC stopped their standard collecting of data on flu and pneumonia. Why? They said that there was so little flu and pneumonia that it wasn't practical to keep on collecting the data. Of course, Covid had sky-rocketed, exactly at the same time. Do you think that the medical might have simply rewritten the symptoms, so that the new symptoms said "Covid," but didn't include flu and pneumonia?

Of course, doing this is becoming more and more difficult. There are too many doctors and nurses these days, who would recognize such a change. So, the CDC lumped them all together under the heading of "Covid/Flu/Pneumonia..." with the instruction to call it "Covid." Check it out. It's right in their literature for the doctors and nurses.

This isn't the first time the medical did something like this. Back in the 1950s, polio was a big problem. Dr. Jonas Salk came out with his famous polio medicine. It was a flop, and most people acknowledge this, now. Then, Sabin came out with his vaccine. It was proving to be a flop as well, so the medical saved themselves by re-defining the symptoms of polio.

In 1961, suddenly there were hardly any cases of polio. Polio had been cured. Salk? Sabin? Whatever! The medical had cured polio. Few people noticed that incidents of spinal meningitis sky-rocked. The medical was careful to keep SM quiet in the news.

If you look close, what you will find is that the symptoms of Covid are the same as symptoms would be in someone who got sick with the flu plus a touch of pneumonia, or pneumonia plus a touch of the flu.

The medical wants more money. And they are screwing us and governments out of $billions ($trillions?) to get it. The people can give us their money through government taxation.

Cool

Shut up.

Last year 2.8 million died in USA
This year 3.2 million will die in USA

the worst year in USA history.

Today 11 months and three weeks to the day my wife caught covid we got fith set of lung scans for her.

Her lungs are less fucked but still fucked up. More treatment is scheduled for her.

Do me a favor and instead of saying bla bla bla. when it comes to covid-19 say a prayer to Jesus for my wife and the tens of thousands of other people that are still suffering from the damage this illness has caused them.

It is not fake and we did not have an extra 400,000 flu deaths.


Lol. It used to be a crystal ball. Now it's a propaganda ball. Cheesy

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December 27, 2020, 07:53:34 AM
The government is completely ambivalent about what is and is not posted on social media.  The government is simply providing a method by which private citizens can obtain relief from multinational corporate interests who are operating within their jurisdiction.

The largest social media platforms are American companies.  

Exactly.  Why should Poland submit itself and it's people the the machinations of corporate conglomerates controlled by ultra-wealthy individuals from around the world?

imo everyone should have access to the entire internet, period.  I disagree with you that Polish people not having access to Facebook, Twitter and Google, (or any site really) would be "the best thing that ever happened to them".  That's not what freedom looks like.  Each person should decide for themselves whether or not they want to visit a social media platform, not the government.  

Whether or not you agree with how they handle political content that users post on their platform is irrelevant.  Your argument supports authoritarianism, not freedom.

You should do a little research on what's been going on in Poland recently, by the way.



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