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June 01, 2019, 05:29:59 AM
Yes some doctors are liar and some are honestly saying the truth to those who are sick.well doctor is always half truth and half lie this is to be able to earn money.
Well I know doctors help us  when we are sick they help us to be feel better.but there some point they didnt say all the good for us.they wanted us to come back to them.
saying for follow up check.why they say this? Is it because again to earn money?
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May 18, 2019, 09:51:43 AM
Since most humans or in this case patients are scared of the plain truth, sometimes doctors are forced to lie to us in  certain instance for our own good so we dont get scared. Personally, I  dont think doctors lie, they only want the best for their patients.
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May 17, 2019, 04:26:36 PM
I think they are not lying, but they don't have many experiences in their field. I can say that because sometimes the doctor making a wrong analyze for his patient and one doctor can be different from the other doctor because his experience cannot be the same and cannot compare. Besides that, the case of every doctor is the same too and to handle the patient will be different too.
They are not god or computer to always make right decision,they also might make mistakes from their knowledge or without knowing it as well.So jf you are getting analysed for something from your doctor then you will get different tablets for the same problems if you visit another doctor.
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May 16, 2019, 04:00:05 PM
I think they are not lying, but they don't have many experiences in their field. I can say that because sometimes the doctor making a wrong analyze for his patient and one doctor can be different from the other doctor because his experience cannot be the same and cannot compare. Besides that, the case of every doctor is the same too and to handle the patient will be different too.
This is why we as patients are free to look for a second opinion, third opinion and so on from other doctors.
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May 15, 2019, 10:26:32 AM
I think they are not lying, but they don't have many experiences in their field. I can say that because sometimes the doctor making a wrong analyze for his patient and one doctor can be different from the other doctor because his experience cannot be the same and cannot compare. Besides that, the case of every doctor is the same too and to handle the patient will be different too.
Sometimes patients may minimize or exaggerate symptoms to avoid key clinical issues) So doctors also sometimes need to lie (smart move card) to get the right results (answers)
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May 14, 2019, 10:22:35 PM
You should confront your doctor directly. Nothing better than a yelling match in the hospital halls.

Ask him if he was smoking. If he doesn't answer with a clear answer get right up in his face. Don't be afriad to raise your voice and start jabbing him in the chest with your index finger.

Be strong. Show him who is boss.

Shake your head as you leave his office cursing under your breath.
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May 14, 2019, 09:10:03 PM
Absolutely, yes especially that doctors on private hospitals. I had once had a skin irritation that spread all over my body and I went to a doctor and all she had offered were expensive medical treatments from ointments and capsules that she has. They just want their patients keep coming back.
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May 13, 2019, 06:45:05 AM
Look at it this way. The life expectancy of doctors is still under 80 years on average. So, if these smart guys don't live that much longer than the rest of us, why would we think that they are telling the truth about much of anything they say?

Don't doctors want to live longer? And if they can't make themselves live longer, why would anyone think that they can prescribe the truth to somebody else?

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May 10, 2019, 04:48:24 PM
All kinds of job have the good and bad professionals. It's not different in medicine field.
What I see nowadays is that many doctors don't want to listen what the pacients have to say. They just throw a medical prescription on you and send you back home. Maybe you don't even need that or can't take that medicine (allergy reasons), but they don't want listen to you, it's very frustrating.
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May 10, 2019, 03:45:16 PM
Of course, all doctors must lie to make a living. All hospitals are for-profit corporations.
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May 08, 2019, 03:00:17 PM
Doctors don't know everything. Probably they only know a little. So, if you tell them you have a cure for cancer, why should they believe you? You need to find the people who know. Cancer cure >>> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50940634.

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Wait a minute 😅 Are you advertising or advising? What's the link for exactly? Cure for cancer? How's that related to "DO YOU THINK DOCTORS LIE?" I'm confused 🤔
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May 07, 2019, 06:07:11 PM
Doctors are only human and have vices like any other person so of course some of them smoke (even though it's unhealthy) and or eat unhealthy and they lie like every person does but they swore the Hippocratic Oath
to not harm any Human being. I don't think that there is some big conspiracy about doctor's lying to you about certain things, but some have close relations to pharma companies that can be bad.
Another question i've been asking myself is if doctor's are getting more incompetent these days or if that only happened/happens to me
a lot of times i knew more about certain medications than the doctor themselves for example or for a simple cold even though it's a virus they'll prescribe antibiotics which only kill bacteria and does not help with your cold, it only kills necessary good digestive bacteria and it's also leading to antibiotic resistant bacteria which could be a real threat in the future. Are physicians getting dumber?
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May 07, 2019, 03:42:38 PM
Doctors don't know everything. Probably they only know a little. So, if you tell them you have a cure for cancer, why should they believe you? You need to find the people who know. Cancer cure >>> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50940634.

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May 07, 2019, 02:42:54 PM
The relationship between patients and doctors should be based on truthful communications. But sometimes it's not that way for a good reason) Telling the truth to a person with mental issues will only lead to you know what. And also, remember we like not to obey rules and regulations most times. So it depends on the particular illness and particular history)

 
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May 07, 2019, 07:04:10 AM
Not a doctor despite my username, but if I was a doctor, you'd have to call me a liar.

Doctor is just an occupation, it won't stop you from lying if you are that way inclined.
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May 07, 2019, 12:57:58 AM

My favorite doctor:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbTuo2iKoyQ

I like how he did't lie exactly.

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May 05, 2019, 04:44:15 PM
Of course doctors don't lie. They are trained to always tell the truth. It's their teachers who lie. Check the links in the article.

Future doctors being trained that unborn babies are “parasites” in the body


Is an unborn human baby the same thing as a deadly parasite or a cancerous tumor? ...

Pffft.  Here nnews and the student are just being silly.  The good proffesor is quite right;  nnborn babies are pretty much by definition 'parasites'.  They do manipulate the mother's immune system to avoid being rejected.  Actually it's the placenta which does the grunt work.  That is a temporary organ the mother provide.

What the good doctor didn't mention (or the report didn't mention) is that the sole purpose for a woman in the broader scheme of things is to adequately support exactly this 'parasite' and pump out as many as possible.  Basically guys are the same.  At least this is my outlook on things.


But the men, having to do so much less of the grunt work, and especially in these days when labor is generally much easier in the civilized countries, the men can sit around smoking and drinking at the bar while the woman does the work.

 Cheesy
legendary
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May 05, 2019, 04:41:23 PM
Believe that doctors are telling the truth. After all, nobody lives forever. So, you might as well feel comforted in your death by thinking that you did everything that could be done... everything that the doctor told you.

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May 05, 2019, 04:58:03 AM
They can lie, and are somewhat supported to do so due to he incentive structures in place for healthcare systems. They can lie mostly due to greed, and it is permissible by the structures in place.

To highlight - most countries have a 'fee for service' model for healthcare.

What this means is that the more 'stuff' Doctors do to you (like surgery, appointments, health checks, prescriptions for drugs etc) the more money they can charge you (if its the USA) or the government/taxpayer (if its most other countries) for each of those treatments.

Therefore, the incentive structure allows for poor treatment, lying about the severity of conditions or to be overly cautious on running expensive additional tests. It does not promote efficiency or the prompt delivery of good health outcomes.

A Doctor that sees the same patient multiple times for something minor, trying new drugs or various questionable treatments and failing to fix the problem can and will charge for each of those visits/prescriptions/treatments. They will be financially rewarded for mediocrity and failure.

A Doctor that solves the problem immediately, knows the issue and saves you time and money will be financially penalised, as they won't get to charge you for all those extra 'things' that the mediocre Doctor tried.

The system does not reward health outcomes and efficiency. It rewards Doctor 'activity' to do things to you.

You can see how financial incentives could support (and even encourage) Doctors to lie about whether that extra blood test is really necessary, or the likelihood of a treatment working, or if it represents value for money.

Financially, a Doctor wants to keep you around for extra treatment. Ethically, well you would hope they have your best interests at heart, but in many countries Doctors are very well paid and you can imagine plenty of situations where their ethical code and financial incentives collide.

So in answer to your question, yes some doctors do lie - and they are financially rewarded to do so.
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May 04, 2019, 06:36:19 AM
There is an expression: You live as long as it is profitable for us. It's a cruel phrase,but sometimes it turns out to be true. Among doctors,as in any other profession,a lot of real professionals and just fine people who,in addition to medical advice,will be able to listen to you and understand as a person.but also enough idiots who accidentally received the title and admitted to medical practice.I met both the first and the second..however as and each of you.simply want to believe that first more.

I want to tell a story. my friend came to the surgeon with a request to remove the tick. the answer of this surgeon struck me: I do not have a scalpel,wait until the ambulance returns from the call,maybe they will help.my friend came home and removed the tick with the help of a friend.

I sincerely wish you all health,as long as possible not to get to the doctors. and if you are, do not meet such as in history.
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