Do You Think Its One Too Many - page 12.

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Quote from: robelneo on June 12, 2022, 09:49:00 AM

Yes, one legit accusation is too many to be ignored.

Yes it is enough to call a black sheep what it is. If a casino has scammed once with proof and they keep denying it, they are likely to scam more unsuspecting player.

The solution is that except that they repent with proof , when someone is not repenting of a bad behavior they are likely to continue doing that at a little opportunity. In regards to feedback, except the casino redeem the image through paying the winning sum to the complaint, with apology and the complaint either comes public to the thread to announce the resolution and gives a positive feedback, then all other positive feedback backs amounts to nothing because there is no justice. Injustice done to one is Injustice done to all.

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Yes. I think so. If there is a strong evidence and proven. See this is just like scamming one person and then assume that he/she will do it again, its just a matter of when.

But normally, the casino will try to resolve the issue and if they admit they made a mistake and made it right, they may be able to restore trust. I don't doubt a casino will do it especially if they've become a trusted one by the community.

But if from the beginning they already tried scamming, its hard to build by admitting they've made mistake like the 1xbit. Just citing and example. Although I think they were trying, its really going to take time. There is no telling they can gain trust.

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yes accusations against casinos are often very serious and can be legitimate, however we would also hope that the casino has a process to investigate any accusation before taking action, as it is not just about protecting their reputation but also consumers. As mentioned in your question, if there is a valid complaint made against a casino then the amount of time it takes to resolve this varies from case to case. If a large sum of money is involved as you state it may take longer for them to get an outcome as this could involve further investigations and legal proceedings.

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give me an example of the site, if you don't mind you can send me a personal message. I'm curious and want to know what happened to the casino. If you don't like it, that's okay.

the reputation of the threshold of decline is vulnerable and can make the casino lose in running its business. This means that there will be only a few customers left, maybe.
Any feedback, in my opinion, will have an effect on prospective new users to enter the casino world.
especially regarding funds, even though 1$ will be a consideration. Because it's not purely from the sportsmanship of the game, it's a company that isn't honest when it comes to the path that Op means.

if there is a human error or something in the term of service, it should be resolved professionally.

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One valid case, must be resolved quickly. It may not have a big impact in the short term for the casino, but if there is a similar case in the future it will make the casino reputation even worse. No matter how many valid good feedbacks are there, it will be eroded by 3 or 5 valid negative feedbacks. The old gambler would always worry and they will kept distance from the casino. But casino will not let a good reputation built over a long period of time be lost in a short period of time, that one case will be solved by them to maintain reputation but it may take some time too.

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Quote from: judeafante on June 12, 2022, 09:25:12 AM

I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

of course it possible, as long as many users had proof about their accusations because it's a big advantage to shutdown the casinos or to stop their service.

Actually here in online it's not that easy, but with the help of google, all websites that has negative feedbacks is visible tbh. Even you make a simple research about scams websites or platforms you can get a list easily . and also with the help of some websites that listing scam platforms it's so easy to terminate as long as all the feedbacks is valid and many people are reporting it, surely they will put reg tag on it.

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Yea well the "good feedback" will turn into something non-existent now. We all know how reputations and trust work, it's not just in casinos, it's literally how it works on everything. Trust is something REALLY hard to build up but if it's properly done, then you can rest assured it'd be steady, but if a crack forms, then that crack will stay and get worse over time, slowly destroying everything. No need for any discussion, if they fail to resolve it or just straight up ignored it, then that's a red mark for their reputation.

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Quote from: judeafante on June 12, 2022, 09:25:12 AM

I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

There are so many nuances when it comes to the trust and reputation of a casino. Every casino and sportsbook should be fully honest about their processes, but just like players can make mistakes - it can even happen on the company side too. I would say it definitely takes a pattern of bad behaviour and many complaints from a variety of players to identify a bad company. Individual complaints can be complicated and the person complaining sometimes leave out significant facts when presenting their case and due to privacy restrictions the sportsbook might not be able to show all the facts either.

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Quote from: judeafante on June 12, 2022, 09:25:12 AM

I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

Unresolved issue = SCAM no matter how good a reputation they have or whatever the amount is! Reputation means the casino doesn't have any existing legit scam accusation. Many casinos fall victim to this, especially when paying the players who won a huge jackpot prize. I think we know already what casino you are pertaining but their reputation will loss unless they solved the case since DT system here is fair and just.

There's no need for for more complicated discussion here because the answer will be too obvious no matter how huge the reputation of this said casino.

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Quote from: judeafante on June 12, 2022, 09:25:12 AM

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I believe it is. At least on this forum, one legitimate accusation is enough to make certain DT members give the casino a negative rating. Although, people with no complaints about the casino will continue to patronize it.

If a casino doesn’t have a track record of disproving any and all allegations against them, it’s simply impossible to give them a good rating.

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Quote from: judeafante on June 12, 2022, 09:25:12 AM

I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

IMO, yes it can be enough some of the reputed casinos faced such situations and eventually resolved after lot of pressure against their reputation in bitcointalk and other social media platforms. They are not allowed to deny the withdrawal if the winning is legitimate and doesn't violates any of their terms.

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Quote from: judeafante on June 12, 2022, 09:25:12 AM

I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

If a scam accusation is legit, with also the good reputation that casino has, they can't do so much. Casino will be haunted from that, and they should try to solve it. Also, consider that a casino with a lot of positive feedback

means that is a casino whose earnings are good, so, they can pay big winnings. One scam accusation can damage the reputation of casino. It is hard to see it anyway this, because casino with good positive feedback has

always paid.

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Yeah, if it's a valid accusation, and everything is provable. Then, yeah for me that site would lose reputation. Doesn't mean their reputation would be completely gone, if they've been operating for years, this could be a result of mismanagement or dropping the ball rather than malicious intent. However, I do find that certain gambling companies seem to play on their terms of service a lot, and they've written it in such a way that it can pretty much get them out of any situation they find themselves in.

There's been a few examples of this with the big fiat operating gambling sites, where they've actually been taken to court, and lost.

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This is how I see it. If a gambling site is reputable on this forum and one of its users come up here with an accusation in a way the betting site wants to scam or cheat him, I think this would be resolved by the casino site because the gambling site will not want to lose its reputation. If the scam is legit and proven true, people that rated the site positive will likely change it to negative if the case is not resolved in favour of the victim.

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If it's just one accusation, I don't think it will have a bad effect on the casino as they still have the support of the others. But I just hope that the casino can solve the problem soon and explain what really happened and if indeed the gambler can win a certain amount of money, then the casino should allow the gambler to withdraw the money. It is the casino's responsibility to gamblers who can win big money. It could be that the accusation is due to a misunderstanding between the casino to the gambler or vice versa.

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Quote from: judeafante on June 12, 2022, 09:25:12 AM

I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

A scam attempt is a theft, you don't take what is not yours, you should give Ceaser what is his. A single scam attempt is enough to destroy the years of reputation you have built, so if you scam and there is evidence labelled against you, that's the beginning of your trust failure from customers and the community.
Why should a company jeopardize its reputation when they stand to earn a lot from the trust they have built over time? There is nothing positive about scams, just look at 1xbit company and how worthless they have become on the forum, everyone fears them, including their banner.

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One accusation might be enough to ruin ones gambling platform however it will still depend on the outcome of the accusations made on the casino. The example amount you've mentioned might take a few time for it to be resolved as the platform with need to thoroughly investigate the issue as it involve a huge amount of money.

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Definitely, it will affect the reputation of the casino but we don't know how huge the effect is. Those who have known the casino for a long time may not be affected since they already have their own experience and the trust is already there. The accusation might probably affect the new players but it might be overturned by the many good reviews of that site no matter how valid the accusation is. Human behavior often chooses to go with herds meaning they will certainly believe the many even if they are wrong than believe the one that is saying the truth. And in your case, the many good reviews are also genuine just like the one bad review. Unless your valid accusation is used in propaganda to put down that casino and that I think is another story.

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One legit accusation that cannot or failed to resolve will haunt the casino, players will have something like

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what if it happens to me

mindset, and those spreading FUD will have something to point out or use to spread false accusations because they have one that cannot be resolved, people might think the casino is picking people to victimize.
Yes, one legit accusation is too many to be ignored.

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They might not lose reputation with the people who've rated them well before the acusationn but if the accusation is spread far enough and the defense is bad then they should lose reputation with new and potential players (but it might depend how many bad reputations they get that are fully proven, one or two might not be enough to get a conclusive result (and I don't think they've been enough in the past to fully desuade everyone).

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