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Initially, I use to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
In other to be able to give a viable response to your question, I was able to have a glance through all your posted articles, and to be frank, never did I see any lengthy article, as they are all below 280 words (i.e all short threads). So wondering why the need for this thread? And secondly, I was able to observe that most of the threads you posted were all on Naija local board, of which due to the lack of more merit source on that local board, all thread posted on that local board are likely to lack merit. Thirdly, merits are reward for quality post, but inasmuch that merit are reward s for quality post, it's also necessary that people make that quality post in areas that can be visible to the larger community, because if you are unlucky to make such quality post on the wrong board, so will your thread lack merit, but if you are lucky enough to post in the right board, you will definitely get the deserved merit.

Hence, what remains now is for people to find the right board to make quality post
hero member
Activity: 994
Merit: 701
Initially, I use to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.

Merit is seen as the only means to be noticeable in the forum and been seen as a good poster in the forum. Without any merits on your profile, it means that you’re not a good poster and haven’t contributed something valuable to the forum in all the time you’ve spent here. This could be the case for some people, but to some it isn’t. To be merited sometimes, it has to depend on the person reading your post, acknowledging that it has impacted something into them or other members of the forum before you get merited. Don’t get discouraged when you don’t get plenty merit as expected when you write or reply to a post, it just means the person that the information will be most useful to haven’t come across it. Keep doing your good post and sharing informative posts and good reply in the forum. When the time comes, it happens naturally and you’ll be awed by it.
sr. member
Activity: 686
Merit: 286
You are posting and you find that post informative enough but other members who are there don't find your post very informative, maybe all the other members didn't send any merit to your post. Never get disappointed but try to make better quality posts. Never judge the quality of your post based on merit. You just follow the right rules and post in the right section and try to give as much information as possible in your post. Hope you don't have to worry about the merit. You will get the merit already.
legendary
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In my early days here, I discovered something about merits. I discovered one earlier and the other later.
What I discovered earlier was;
When you have the consciousness of getting merits and put good efforts in your posts, you will earn it. This worked for me many times, but at a time it stopped working for me. No matter how merit conscious I'll be, I will not get merits.

Let me guess, this worked when you had lesser rank but as you advanced in ranked on the forum it stopped working. Well it was because when you were a member with lesser rank your contribution weren't judged with higher quality just as you'll see a newbie putting efforts into his posting and you'll reward the post with merit. But as the users get older, he shouldn't expect to get merited with the same effort. This is what is holding most accounts from increasing in rank because they're stocked with the mentality that'll keep getting reward for a their minimum efforts as a higher forum user. Typically a newbie quality shouldn't be the same with a Hero/Legendary users because with his advanced rank there should be some evidence of improvement.

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The second phase came;
This was when I started flowing with the forum discussion and never had merits in mind because I already earned enough to take me to Snr member. Merits started coming gradually and was steady. So, merit is just dynamic.

This is how the merit system should work, you shouldn't go around plagiarizing or making use of AI to post just to impress meriters and at the end of the day you ban your account. The quantity of your post doesn't matter and you should know when to deliver a lengthy post for clarification of your points and when to just go straight to the point. What matters most is the quality and not quantity.
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You have said it all, a post that's very lenghty and contains no knowledge or be of any help to someone is of no use. Moreover we don't comment on every posts we come across on the form. Look for threads you know you have adequate knowledge about and dedicate yourself there. Some people comments on every posts they come across on the forum, which is not very good. You already know that without quality posts nothing for you.

You’re right on the point you made; people in a bid to get merits go on to write on threads and boards that they have little to no knowledge of what the discussions are about. In a bid to look knowledgeable and perhaps to earn merits, they end up being put on peoples ignore list cause of the misleading or outright false information they keep spewing out.
There’s an active thread aiming to call such users out for posting false and misleading information on the technical board. It’s much better to stick to and contribute your knowledge to the boards and topics you are actually versed  in. You’ll still be recognized and merited
sr. member
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Another trivial topic from a newbie. I always wonder, OP, at what time do newbies have the epiphany of merit to create topics like this? Don't you read what other newbies write about this? Practically repeating what was said many times. But I always assumed that someone who has gone through this experience and can set their own example should talk about it.
OP, if you don't want to look stupid, then after this thread, you should blow up the forum with the amount of merit that will rain down on you. After all, you have now learned the truth. Otherwise, all your words are just theory, but where is the practice?
OP I indeed a desperate merit hunter. Lol
I do not know if he is feeling cheated to be that he has got posts that deserves to be merited and are being ignored.

Well... Just as you have said, he should have learnt from other newbies and with all the replies on this his alarm, I hope he would adjust his mentality of chasing merits as a prior of being in this forum and focus on how to bring his best and acquire the elementary knowledges of why the forum is concerned about and not based on what he self concerned about in the forum.
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Initially, I use to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
If you only prioritize the length of writing and the number of posts to get merit then you will never get it at all.  From what i have noticed, when your account has an attractive reputation, you will easily get "merit", for example if you are active on WO board or Bitcoin technical then you will easily get merit, the point is that you don't create chaos, make disturbing posts or make posts that are personally insulting then your account will get good merit even though the number of posts in your post is short.
sr. member
Activity: 1316
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Initially, I use to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
Once you have the key, it should be easier for you to do it. What I mean is, as long as you consistently produce quality posts and are patient with appreciation from other members for your efforts to produce quality posts, sooner or later there will be members who give merit to your posts. Always look for opportunities that can bring merit and often post quality content on boards or topics that are frequently visited by Merit Source. You have to approach them by showing something valuable so that they appreciate your posts.
legendary
Activity: 2226
Merit: 1086
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A meaningless post will only be seen as a garbage no matter how lengthy the post may be but if a post is of short length with power meaning, well written and easily readable, the message it passes alone will be considered better than the meaningless lengthy post
It is true. Even if it is a post with some paragraphs, it won't be a quality post if it has no important things. On the hand, it also won't be a quality post although it has important information in the content but people are difficult to understand the post due to bad way in writing.

The merit system has nothing to do with the length of post but the message of the post either attracts merit or the way the post was written, there are users who send out merits due to right grammatical usage of a member in a comment and there are users who also send out merits due to the quality of the post either ways the best ways to get merits is just by doing the right things as required by the forum.
Of course, a lengthy post never guarantees merits. People will reward merits based on the quality of the post and usefulness of the post. It is not only about the way in writing but it is also related to the content of the post. I think no people give merits because of the right grammatical usage only, the content of the post should be meaningful or valuable as well.


sr. member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 368
A meaningless post will only be seen as a garbage no matter how lengthy the post may be but if a post is of short length with power meaning, well written and easily readable, the message it passes alone will be considered better than the meaningless lengthy post
The merit system has nothing to do with the length of post but the message of the post either attracts merit or the way the post was written, there are users who send out merits due to right grammatical usage of a member in a comment and there are users who also send out merits due to the quality of the post either ways the best ways to get merits is just by doing the right things as required by the forum.
full member
Activity: 189
Merit: 119
Initially, I use to think merit is by chance ( i.e something that will just happen) or lengthy article ( i.e writing too many paragraphs and the rest of them), but I have come to realize that, it is more than that.
I have being discouraged several times because of my numerous posts and replies yet no merit then. Even now, some times I use to be discourage. However, the only way to get merit is by posting quality article ( that is what determines merit) which almost everybody is aware of now.
In summary, don't look at the quantity of post you have make so far but instead try to adjust, I mean improve in your posts, above all be consistent and patient that is the key.
You have said it all, a post that's very lenghty and contains no knowledge or be of any help to someone is of no use. Moreover we don't comment on every posts we come across on the form. Look for threads you know you have adequate knowledge about and dedicate yourself there. Some people comments on every posts they come across on the forum, which is not very good. You already know that without quality posts nothing for you.
legendary
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Merit is not by chance or how lengthy your article is, to my best of knowledge, the more the article content of what you're posting is the more its getting complicated for others to read and understand the major idea in your post, so merit is giving by the level of the quality of your post, which is felt by the reader and he make the judgement that your post is deserving to receive merit provided that he has some smerits to give out, be it a merit source or other members of the forum.
in this question I think everyone has it on way of explaining what gives merit based on your your  experience on article composition, but from my own perspective merit is being given based on the quality of your composition and how meaningful and educative is your article, that is what make some people to like your writing in order to give you a merit, because giving someone a merit is a personal choice and it is based on what you understand through the composition of that person will make you to Merit the person so giving out merit does not determine by how lengthy is your article, its base ob how comprehensive is your work.
There are still lengthy posts that get merited simply because they are well explained and have contained a lot of helpful insights. Sometimes, that’s also a case to case basis depending on what topic to be discussed. However, I still prefer to go a for short but well precise explanation. As long as the main pint of view is present and can be benefited by a lot of readers, for me that deserves a merit.
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Hmm, pretty good question OP.
 
According to my opinion, merit should not belong to lengthy postes or topics. Rather you should emphasize your knowledge and explain it. It means that a large post does not attract people, you have to explain the big meaning in small words.
 
My personal opinion is that quantity is not quality. I am putting in front of you some of the rules of the post, which in my opinion, has caused me to get merit. Which you can also implement and post quality better.
✔. Explore new knowledge as much as possible and explain it in easy and simple words.
✔. Do not hesitate to ask high-ranking members in any thread, whatever you want to ask or explain within the scope of the principle, you can express it through a clear-cut post.
 
Advice: IMHO, you should just focus on post quality and not merit. If your post quality is better, then you will definitely get merit.

We can earn merits not because we made a very long  topics or threads but we can earn merits by expressing our knowledge and how we delivered our thoughts once other users like our post cause they learned something then they will give some merits to us. In short even 20 words of reply once it will helpful and useful then you got some merits. Anyways some users didn't attract to those long threads cause they will felt tired  to read all of those thread.

Just few words sentences can give you a merit which more than 400 words can't give. A meanful and helpful post or reply are more welcome than a lengthy and meaningless post. Learning to write a good and reasonable post either short or lengthy is the best to grow in the forum.
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What brings merit is quality post but the quality of your post is subjective which means it depends on the merit source spread merit based on what he /she considers as quality post.

A quality post can either be lengthy or short but it's more about the information that it contains. Sometimes your post can be very informative but it has been treated or it's known to the people already hence they do not consider it anymore.

But perhaps you want to earn some merit for good post then you have to look at how people who have been earning some good merit does it and then if you follow the steps it certainly bring you some merit too.
In my early days here, I discovered something about merits. I discovered one earlier and the other later.
What I discovered earlier was;
When you have the consciousness of getting merits and put good efforts in your posts, you will earn it. This worked for me many times, but at a time it stopped working for me. No matter how merit conscious I'll be, I will not get merits.
The second phase came;
This was when I started flowing with the forum discussion and never had merits in mind because I already earned enough to take me to Snr member. Merits started coming gradually and was steady. So, merit is just dynamic.
I understand such situations, and I think I'm currently in the second phase where I don't longer search for merits, although I'm not up to a senior member rank. I feel more relaxed now and a bit more experienced, so I'm not as merit conscious as before, when I used to crack my head on what to do to earn merit because almost everything I thought of was already done before hand.

Now, it seems I understand the merit system better, so I don't force myself on merit sources to earn merit, but I just do my best by contributing continuously regardless of whether merit is coming or not. Also in my local board, I never thought I would be receiving merit from there because I wasn't acquainted with how it works, but at one point, I woke up to two merits from @hugeblack in the local board and @CryptopreneurBrainboss for honestly speaking my mind. From that day until date, I have not been chasing merit because I no longer believe that when it's time for you to earn merit, you will, no matter what.

So what I just encourage other mates to do is keep the stone rolling. You may not be noticed today, but at least tomorrow is another day.
sr. member
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Lengthy post is not the standard for merit worthy post. Besides, it all depends on the sender, most merit source send based on the quality informative your post holds, while you can also get merited due to your behavior, achievement or help you offer to others. One thing about hunting for merit is that you may not receive any merit after putting in much effort to make a lengthy and quality post and that will surely discourage you for making more quality post, but when you make post with the aim of discussing and sharing ideas, you'll be surprised how the merits would start coming in. But first, equip yourself with enough knowledge so you can make quality post. What matters the most is the content of what you have written, is it beneficial to the readers in this forum? Is it most importantly related to Bitcoin?
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Writing a long post will not guarantee you a merits in this forum because, the members that merits users consider the quality post you construct to impact others users in the forum and you must be an active member that is always contributing in other members trend in the forum.

If you are a type of person that is creating topics for merits purpose or commenting on people trend for merits purpose in the forum, it will not make people to merits you because they know what you are looking for that is making you to write the long post that are not quality standard in the forum.

It is even easy to identify those that phish for merit by making post, such content will be seen as not genuine type because it will be full of lies, then if someone thinks about making much content on a post is what can help them get merits, then they are missing the whole idea on what a quality post is all about, instead, such user will only be spamming thinking they are pleasing others with what they are posting.
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Op have you ever imagined why some created topic has no comment even if it has it will only be a few comments, it's because those topics has nothing to offer. This apply to reply or comment the activities of the forum has it rewards be it comment, topic or reply but this only happens when it's done wrightly.
I disagree. Having fewer replies on a thread doesn’t mean that the post is low quality. It could be that the OP asked a question that’s been answered by the first 3 or 4 posters. It makes no sense repeating or rephrasing what has been said before.

what matter is it quality what is needed is not quantity but quality, information passing and lesson deriving post .
I believe this is the reason why newbies tend to create guides for other newbies to follow. They have this idea that the fastest way to earn merit is to become a teacher on the forum.

Just like some students in school will write exam and full their answer shit some even requested for extra at the end having f9 when result is released so it's in making post here you can't write shit and expect reward, answer to many questions don't need too many statement or sentence as long you do it write even with short words you receive your Merritt.
Like in college, this is a subjective thing. Some professors like to see lengthy answers and others prefer concise explanations. Merits is also the forum, everyone has his/her own preferences on what they consider merit worthy posts.
legendary
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What brings merit is quality post but the quality of your post is subjective which means it depends on the merit source spread merit based on what he /she considers as quality post.

A quality post can either be lengthy or short but it's more about the information that it contains. Sometimes your post can be very informative but it has been treated or it's known to the people already hence they do not consider it anymore.

But perhaps you want to earn some merit for good post then you have to look at how people who have been earning some good merit does it and then if you follow the steps it certainly bring you some merit too.
In my early days here, I discovered something about merits. I discovered one earlier and the other later.
What I discovered earlier was;
When you have the consciousness of getting merits and put good efforts in your posts, you will earn it. This worked for me many times, but at a time it stopped working for me. No matter how merit conscious I'll be, I will not get merits.
The second phase came;
This was when I started flowing with the forum discussion and never had merits in mind because I already earned enough to take me to Snr member. Merits started coming gradually and was steady. So, merit is just dynamic.
full member
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Merit is given when you make a quality post, if am to pick from your options OP, it's given by chance not making lengthy article, it doesn't count. If you're making lengthy article it most be a quality and reasonable post. That what  count the knowledge you are sharing not writing shit  or making off comments.

Why I choose chance is because most at times one can make a quality post but not merited because the reader wasn't at time having the feeling or need to, we can see that even if we make quality post it's subjective to the reader. We can sight example to the Wall Street Observer section, you see how post that isn't suppose to be merited are given. There is little or no lengthy post there but merits are just given based on chanced and how the reader see the need for.

This can't be overstretched in a simple word make quality post,worthy of sharing and remove your mind from getting merits on every post.

  Not all good post will be merited that’s something you should consider, that doesn’t mean the post isn’t quality enough. A good post of course when reviewed will be merited, the merit serve as a someone buying into your idea or maybe the post is informative and useful to the forum. I just feel like if you’re posting just to get merit, you may end up doing too much thereby putting yourself at risk of making shit post instead, here in the forum you don’t have to be uptight and it a forum of course and not an office where you answer to anybody. Of course we have to follow and abide to the rules of the forum so as to keep the community organized. It’s a discussion community where we come to share idea and also be schooled too. We can’t know everything for sure, if we are too uptight here and just posting to gain merit  I feel like we will forget the main ingredient of the forum and that is to also learn some new things too.
  Of course merit is important that will help your profile grow, but have you ask yourself why those that post just few words get merit compared to the ones with lengthy paragraphs, i just feel like you have to understand the forum on your own part, study how other higher ranks in the forum construct their post. That will even make you a better writer. It not about your lengthy post, your lengthy post might mean a thing but you might still be saying same thing as the person who just constructed few write up, and the person is banging merit. It’s not that the person is special or anything it just how well constructed the post is. Before you make any post at least you have to have an idea so as to share your insight about the topic being discussed. It not about writing just to meet your quota, your posts is been seen by the thousands of people here in the forum. Now you see why information is powerful. Your information or idea can teach or enlighten the thousands of people here in the forum. Write to educate and not for merits.
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Merit is given when you make a quality post, if am to pick from your options OP, it's given by chance not making lengthy article, it doesn't count. If you're making lengthy article it most be a quality and reasonable post. That what  count the knowledge you are sharing not writing shit  or making off comments.

Why I choose chance is because most at times one can make a quality post but not merited because the reader wasn't at time having the feeling or need to, we can see that even if we make quality post it's subjective to the reader. We can sight example to the Wall Street Observer section, you see how post that isn't suppose to be merited are given. There is little or no lengthy post there but merits are just given based on chanced and how the reader see the need for.

This can't be overstretched in a simple word make quality post,worthy of sharing and remove your mind from getting merits on every post.
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