Topic: Do you think that this is aperfect analogy of how gambling addiction starts? - page 2. (Read 1020 times)

The fact is that in gambling, especially those that rely purely on luck such as slot machines, for example, the more often you are involved in this type of gambling, it is clear that I will agree with your idea that the more losses you will experience, because after all it is very difficult to be able to make the number of wins more than the number of losses if we basically only rely on luck which always cannot be predicted when it comes, And that is why we must always have self-control and some limits when engaging in gambling, none other than because this activity is very involving mentally and psychologically which means that when your mental and psychological disorders due to not being able to accept defeat then obviously then emotions will play a role and finally you do some actions out of control one of which is by putting a larger amount and losing everything.

It is very difficult to deal with gambling as entertainment if they initially come with too much focus on winning, in the end some limits will be forgotten which of course falls further and further into a cycle of addiction that has no limits.

If they only focus on winning, they should be prepared to be disappointed because they will see defeats coming more often than wins. Well, they may be able to see the wins coming, but the number is not greater than the losses that come, so they will still experience more and more losses. If they are more busy looking for ways to win, they will not be able to enjoy gambling as entertainment because they are obsessed with winning and it will become a bigger problem if they don't realize it soon. Besides that, their losses will increase the longer they gamble, so if they don't stop immediately, they could really run out of money.

Well, hopefully, they can really realize that their financial condition is getting worse, and they have to stop their gambling activities immediately. Otherwise, they will go bankrupt because they gamble too often and experience more losses. They must be honest with themselves so that awareness will come to them and say that they must immediately stop gambling. And this is indeed related to mental and psychological stress problems but they still have the possibility of leaving gambling if they want. But it depends on the intentions they have because most gamblers still want to gamble and still try to win some gambling games. This is what makes it difficult for many gamblers to quit gambling and even leave gambling forever.

If they come with such an approach then obviously I think there is something to be suspicious of, or I mean I should suspect their goals, I am sure that they come  not for fun but only focus on winning, so instead of implementing some precautions but they are busy with finding many ways to get a win. If the involvement  is not too long then I think losing is not the end of the world, or it means that they will not mind the defeat because they still have a great passion for winning, and they will really feel the loss when the defeat really dominates.

As I said above and I think they will really realize or at least gain awareness when their financial condition is getting worse due to this activity, honestly on the other hand I think a situation like this is quite natural especially for beginners who have just come who certainly still have a high enthusiasm for a victory, especially if they always see other people who can get a victory, then obviously indirectly it increasingly brainwashes them to continue to get lost in the black hole of gambling, I think they will be able to really realize when they have experienced many problems that can certainly make them experience mental and psychological pressure.

It should be like that but they don't make the necessary preparations and instead gamble without any preparation. They ignore all the things that are needed in gambling so that when they are too focused on gambling, they don't see that they haven't been able to win at all. They only want to chase the win and ignore the losses they have suffered. They should be aware that winning from gambling is not as easy as they imagine and if they experience loss, they can think about immediately ending the gambling game. They could return to the casino another day after resting. This is to reduce the desire to recover previous losses because this will occur in gamblers so that they will want to return to gambling again.

Those who are not aware of the risks posed by gambling will only continue gambling and not think that they have lost a lot of money in previous gambling games. They can remain enthusiastic about gambling, but they also have to see the fact that it is still difficult for them to win, so they need to regulate their gambling activities and not increase their gambling hours. That will only make them unable to control themselves because they desire to gamble longer to chase the win. Wise gamblers don't want to do that because they think it's not worth doing because it could lead to more losses that they might not realize. As most gamblers, we must be able to realize that gambling is only necessary in moderation, and there is no need to chase wins or recover losses because that will only cost more money.

People who are addicted to gambling will never try to understand what is right or wrong. When it comes to gambling, they always feel that the decision they make is the right one. Maybe many people are making their lives happy and peaceful in this gambling event. Many or those tides are actually becoming destitute. There are many who have chosen gambling as a profession. People who are addicted to gambling think that they will earn money by gambling, it is seen that many lose double the amount of money they want to earn by gambling.

But on the other hand to be honest I personally quite agree with the idea that the attraction to engage in gambling activities usually likes to come when we are in a boring situation, I have experienced something like that even though basically as you said that there are still other possibilities, yes I agree because there is something out of control that always cannot be predicted regarding several possibilities.

But I think having a lot of busyness is one of the effective ways to avoid addiction, because as we know that the desire to gamble always comes from our minds so that when we have free time, our brains and minds will look for some activities that are quite interesting and one of them allows gambling to be an activity to fill time when the situation is like that. Although you think this method cannot fully minimize unwanted things such as addiction, for me this is one of the most effective ways because honestly I was able to recover from gambling addiction by adding several other activities in my life which certainly made my mind distracted from the attraction to gambling and slowly out of the addiction zone.

You are correct but on the contrary I have seen those who are fully occupied and devoted for their task, or place of work and yet still turn to gambling addicts and many of them can never be trusted with company's funds or can not hold a financial position otherwise the organization money could be used for gambling. Becoming a gamble addicts doesn't matter if you are so occupied or having a work at the moment what happens is that gambling addicts is a natural thing that always come gradually to the person but without them knowing that are tuning into addiction.

However, those who are so devoted in work are the people who easily gots addicted and do not gamble responsibly due to their regular inflow of cash and they felt they can easily meet up whenever they ran out of cash at times they run into getting loan to satisfy their gambling activity for days or week even per month as they may have planned it.

But I gotta disagree that that's the whole picture.  Sure, staying busy might make it less likely for some folks to end up with a gambling problem.  However there's usually more to it than that. 

Gambling addiction is complicated, with lots of things playing into it.  Plus, people struggled with getting addicted to gambling even before everything went online and  so while keeping occupied helps for some, it doesnt fix the underlying problem or rule out addiction.

The man in the video is right, if you are starting out on gambling do not have the mind of making money from it, do it as yes I am ready to lose this amount of money today, the guarantee of winning is far away from gambling itself, you will only get addicted if you try hard.

It's not your job where your skills are the only thing you got to get paid monthly, there is no income stream in gambling, don't even bother learning some strategy, as a gambler you are automatically at risk of losing your own guide one day and start risking it all on gambling, this is why the time and energy you spent on gambling should be limited.

So limited that you won't feel like you can't do without gambling everyday, if you are feeling like this, it means you are already slowly getting addicted and you need to stop, most addiction happens because people want to make money and they choose to use gambling, where it's already almost impossible to make money.

I think balance and self-awareness are vital. Gambling may be fun if done responsibly. However, it becomes a problem when done alone. Why do young people get addicted? Perhaps their lack of broad interests and impulse control are to blame.

But busy people like you have a natural shield: your hobbies and duties. It shows the value of a balanced life. We must promote healthy gambling and a variety of activities. This promotes mental health and a balanced view on gaming.

Gambling should be one of several leisure activities, not the main focus. Addiction risk reduction may require this balanced strategy.

Yes, that could also be one reason why people easily become addicted because of not having a job and also not having other hobbies so they are more focused on gambling. Personally, luckily I have lots of activities or hobbies that I can do, for example going fishing with my family or just play football with my family or close friends, so that it doesn't remind me of gambling.

On average, people who are very closed to the outside world tend to be addicted to gambling because they don't have other activities outside the home so they are more likely to gamble on a computer or cell phone at home to look for activities in online gambling, but for people who are very busy like me it might be difficult because every day you have to work, you don't have much time to gamble on weekdays except on weekends, that's why people who are addicted tend to be under the age of 25 compared to over that age, just my guess, the point is to often do activities that keep yourself busy because it can avoid gambling addiction.

Casinos take advantage of human nature; whether we like it or not, at some point we'll eventually lose money. How we react to it is a whole different story. It's okay to feel frustrated, irritated, and gloomy; no one is happy to lose money. Controlling those feelings is a must, because this is what casinos strive for: an outburst of emotions that will send you into a spiral of making new bets without giving too much thought. Physical and online casinos are manipulative, each with different approaches, but both share the same goal: to make money.

This is why it's vital to self-control; keeping your balances low and making it impractical to go overboard is one of the ways I've implemented myself in case something like this ever happens.

We are aware that many people genuinely want to escape poverty, but when something is overdone, bad things always happen. The issue arises from the moment someone wins for the first time and they begin to take it seriously. The best thing a person can do to better themselves is to find employment rather than rely on a game to provide for their needs or even to pay their bills. The ironic thing is that if they lose, that is how they will continue to go without food until they do.

People who have made millions from gambling will tell you to keep gambling and you will win one day, so it's a difficult choice to make you want money from gambling and then keep playing. Instead of putting too much money into gambling, it would be better if you invest in cryptocurrency because if you lose you will get interested too and if you win you will get your money back if the market recovers.


There are those who gamble for a weekly paycheck if you don't have enough money to gamble, wait till you do. Some people have more than 5% of a winning, and because the economy is struggling, gambling appears like a much better way to make extra money. However, keep in mind that gambling is all luck, and you could lose your game every time you play.

Whoever it is before engaging in gambling should have prepared many precautions as you mentioned with self-control and some restrictions, but strangely there are still those who completely ignore some of these important points, whether they don't know it or what, honestly I don't know but what is certain in my opinion is that it happens because they are too focused on winning opportunities that make them come in a hurry and barely do research first about the dangers or risks of what is in gambling itself.

That's right, gamblers who are completely unaware of the risks involved in gambling will only continue to play excessively or aggressively for the sake of getting a big win, that's what always happens so of course it's not the victory they get but instead they suffer a number of losses consciously and unconsciously. In my opinion, it is not that easy for them to stop in the stage of involvement that can still be said to be too early, they still have great enthusiasm and some of the defeats they have experienced may not be too concerned, it is because of the great confidence in the hopes they have put on winning. On the other hand, it is certainly true that this is the kind of gambler that casinos want because they will easily spend their money on something uncertain.

So that's why it's important for us to learn self-control and emotions so that we don't get dragged deeper into gambling and can also get out of gambling on time. But most gamblers don't understand this and will continue gambling more aggressively by placing bigger bets because they think it can help them win. Instead of winning, they will experience losses, which may increase if they don't realize when to stop gambling. Yes, they manipulate their own minds so that they end up obsessed with winning from gambling so they will use more money. The casinos ultimately use this to attract the attention of vulnerable gamblers so that they keep coming back to gamble for more money. If these gamblers knew that they had to really reduce their gambling activities, they would see that they could save more money than just using it for gambling.

Precisely what makes us fragile is what does not make us human, since it is so difficult to control our emotions we have to opt for something that makes our lives easier and we do not continue trying, for example when we are in a casino, not only It helps control the emotions, but it is a very powerful weapon, the fact of having a total amount of money to lose, because that protects us from not continuing anymore and not spending more money, for example if I am willing to lose 30usd there I can enjoy all my emotions, with that balance, but the moment it runs out I can no longer continue because it would be something that is not in the possibility of doing well, because first you have to consider that things are quite obvious, one more deposit is synonymous with losing more, but if we leave it like this, take that discipline to follow us more and do something very important which is to be totally well and have enjoyed the game healthily.

At the moment of having enjoyed it wildly, since things can be different, they are seen from another point of view, so that it is not taken as something obligatory that later one has to deposit more, if we deposit more, then we are breaking the main rule and there it is very likely that you will lose, and that is what we must avoid, losing is inevitable in a casino, it is within the normal ranges of any thing, but it is also good to review that things can be very good if we see them For example, as the way to do the right thing, because we enjoy it and don't spend more, perhaps those who spend more are money that they have very committed and that is something that one cannot do as a person, that is why when we are in a situation casino the word self-control is what we must repeat it the most, because yes, the emotions and impulses will give, but with enough discipline one will know how to calm down, and that is not something that will be experienced, if it is lived since we are playing with the money that yes we are allowed to lose.

It's hard to accept but this is true, Humans are emotional and that is one of the reasons why a person is easily affected because he cannot control his emotions properly, which can be the reason and beginning of his addiction especially when money is involved.
I'm not sure but when it comes to casinos, they seem to sense when someone is losing, they make a good way so that the player doesn't stop playing and continues to do even without money. it's like they manipulate a person's mind which is the reason why the player ends up being obsessed. Casino owners know how fragile and weak when it comes to emotional control people are, that's what they made a strategy to win the hearts of the players.

The problem is that knowing such things gives absolutely nothing  For example, you know how a burn signal travels through your nervous system and reaches your brain, indicating danger and the need to take action. Will this make it hurt you less (if compared to a person who does not know such details)? The answer is obvious.
A person is not a logical machine/robot that always makes rational decisions. This applies to all choices - career, sexual selection, family relationships, etc.
I doubt that if various errors of perception and cognitive distortions are taught in particular detail at school, then graduates will become more rational.

The knowledge itself is zilch, it’s nothing - in such complex things, only knowledge with reinforcement is important (roughly speaking, either from your own or from someone else’s experience). And even this is not enough, since people are social creatures and much depends on the culture where a person lives. No matter how much we want the opposite, we are made up of external influences (which act on us throughout our lives without interruption), so some separate facts/knowledge (which we will pay attention to for a short time and that’s all) will not have a particularly strong impact on us.

That's right mate and we can not deny the fact that human are truly emotional and that's the reason why other casino will take an advantage in that which is the owner/facilitator and programers on a casino find some weakness of ours gamblers in order to catch some attentions and make us fall into them and play with them and then also once we loss they will earn a lot of money which is this is a good marketing strategy.

You're right from what you have pointed out here concerning gambling, but we have no option than to accept gambling from the way they were, we cannot change anything about it, but we can do alot to influence changes about how we gamble, if we got addicted, it's not to the blame of gambling but how we have chosen to participate in it, we have our independent freedom in gambling, so why can't we utilize them to our own good and make the best of gambling is experience.