Topic: Do you think that this is aperfect analogy of how gambling addiction starts? - page 3. (Read 1020 times)

The problem is that awareness will not be easy to achieve when basically in their little hearts they still hope for a victory, maybe you also know that in every session there will always be things that look like tempting when it is nothing but a trap to keep them there, and if basically they still have hope then it is obviously very difficult to think realistically to encourage awareness even though they already know that losing situations always occur at the end of the session or that means disappointing results always dominate.

It is obvious that all gamblers will say "this time I will definitely be able to be one of the lucky ones among the 10 playing on the table" but the fact that happens at the end of the session always slaps them, and I say it is a cycle because of course the next time they will also motivate themselves by putting new confidence in the next session, as I said above that the problem is that they are too excessive in hope and come with the wrong understanding. Exactly, for the situation of people who are already addicted they will recover from dozens of defeats when they manage to get one victory, when in reality the number is not balanced and the number of losses is still far greater. So it is right to say that this is a cycle that will continue to repeat itself based on excessive expectations that of course make them always curious.

I'll give you a better one, and it's much easier to understand how addiction starts and how it works, that's the key as to why this video is created I think.


To me, what he's said about gambling it looks right at first listen and glance but the more I analyze it, wouldn't it be the opposite? If you understand probability then the more you're going to start gambling even more because yes you know that the probability is low but you also know how to hit the correct numbers and get in the right spot when you're gambling, look at the movie Jerry and Marge Go Large, they've calculated all the possible lottery expenses and they're able to understand that if they're to get all the wins in that ticket, they will be profiting out of buying large quantities of lottery tickets. There's also the math professor turned lottery geniuses out there that's basically making bank out of correct calculations in the lottery, that's why I said that it's the opposite of what he's said in the video.

Classic trap: infrequent wins give a false impression of control, hiding rising losses. We see this pattern repeatedly: the gambler's brain associates gambling with pleasure despite financial loss. Gambling is a social issue, not just an individual one. Games use these psychological hooks because the industry knows them. Society must recognize this and promote responsible gambling. Gamblers arent the only factor; industry operations and support systems are.

Education about gambling addiction, stricter industry regulations, and better support networks are needed to combat this issue. Understanding gaming and human psychology can help us unravel this complicated network. We must work together to stop gambling from destroying lives.

Those who use gambling to get easy money have to experience disappointment because many of them will only experience losses that can wipe out all their money. But if they think they are gambling using their money and can accept their losses well without any desire to recover their losses, they will not try to get back the money they lost in gambling. And there is no easy money in gambling because gambling is not a place to make money.

So before people start gambling, they must be able to think that they are gambling using money, and they can experience defeat so they can limit their money in gambling. When they cannot control themselves in gambling, they will only experience gambling addiction, and it is only a matter of time before they experience it.

Most times these gamblers think ",hey it's high time I stopped gambling,  I'm losing lots of money " but greed won't let them think straight and stop gambling,  it keeps telling them "keep pushing,  today might be your winning day, don't stop, don't be a coward..."   This is enough motivation to work even harder gambling.  The very moment they record one win,  they forget about all their losses in the past. This one win becomes a great push for them to invest even more. This they do until they get drowned in gambling,  then family and friends begin to get worried over his change of behaviour,  his finances becomes affected,  he pays little attention to other hobbies and activities.  His life just got ruined and he's not even aware of it. Many people who got addicted don't even know they are addicted until they begin to experience one problem or the other as a result of gambling.

If the winnings at gambling were not money then I think very few people would be addicted to it or even none.
But the fact is that casinos make money as the object of winnings or meaning winnings in the form of money which in fact all humans on earth need money, and when they get money from gambling intentionally or not then obviously they will think that it seems like a good place to earn, so of course as you said that it all starts with a cycle of winnings that are usually not too big for the initial stage which then they want such results to be repeated again with a larger amount of winnings.

The excitement and pleasure reaction resulting from earning almost makes them forget the real facts in gambling about probability that eventually some controls and limits over time are forgotten, but when they try it again it turns out that the results do not match the previous ones which means that in the next session they lose. The question is will they stop? No, curiosity and the inability to accept the harsh reality will play a role because they were able to get a win before. They will think that "the same old win will definitely be repeated", strangely they are so sure about it that they are unconsciously addicted and their money is eroded.

Emotion really takes part in gambling. Some people enjoy gambling because, in addition to being entertaining, it allows them to easily make money from a small amount of money that they invested in. If they are successful, their profits will increase with their chances of winning. On the contrary, though, you may truly express your lost feelings when you are a typical loser. You develop an obsession with attempting to recover the money that has been lost. There's a chance you'll develop an addiction to gambling if you are unable to discipline yourself.

Like he stated, "Gambling is a tax for people who don't understand the mathematics of probability," I can agree with Andrea's Analogy. It is true that you can never reasonably bet if you understand how probability operates. After all, why would you keep gambling if you are aware of the risks involved? Knowing that it can ruin you, drive you insane, and that you are just gaslighting yourself, you are blocking your brain from seeing anything but the enjoyment, amusement, and money you can make.

The cycle of little wins leads to the pursuit of bigger wins. Money and self-control are often lost in this endeavor. This process repeats: the excitement of prospective gain is eclipsed by the sobering reality of likely loss.

Must gambling be considered in a broader context? Some enjoy it responsibly as entertainment. Self-regulation and odds knowledge are crucial. Gambling becomes troublesome when it becomes an addiction. Awareness and help for gambling addicts are crucial.

Gambling isnt the problem, but the relationship. Responsible gambling involves setting and following limits. Balance: enjoying the thrill while knowing the risks. We should promote healthy gambling by educating and helping people.

In fact, it all starts with a person's greed and high curiosity so that sometimes people often forget themselves when gambling, usually hoping for a small opportunity to get a big win that they don't necessarily get but they believe that they will get it so that the small win that they should It could be a win and also a profit, on the contrary, it is lost again in order to get a big win but you don't get anything.

The point is that those who play do not limit themselves because they do not control it properly will definitely become addicted in the end because they will gamble following their greedy behavior which will never end so that what they are chasing continues to haunt them even though in the end they never get anything except bankrupt.

Humans are truly emotional in everything, that is somewhat a unique creation but because of that thing, we never win everything we want like winning in gambling. And that simple analogy gives an idea to the casino owners and takes advantage of our weakness. Addiction really exists because we let it happen and because we let our emotions control our minds. The solution to this problem is just ourselves, not the other person because we are the ones who manage ourselves, not them.

If Andreas knows that humans are very emotional creatures and irrational beings despite all the rational evidence against a particular cause or a particular action, then he'd understand that gambling doesn't care about one's rationalization irrespective of how intellectually sound they are. I find this analogy to be quite similar to those who engage in other addictive, self-destructive habits. This analogy fits with many others to explain the how problem gambling starts.

Simple analogy, they try, then get a profit, then try again and again because of greed to want to win more than before.

then they use bigger money with the heart of wanting to get bigger profits, but in fact they lose, and then chase their losses to get the money they have lost, this is in accordance with the cycle of why people are addicted to gambling, until in the end they have a mindset Prioritize the possibility of subsequent opportunities to get opportunities that have a 5% win.

they lose their minds and believe in the small probability of winning because their logic believes in a big win awaiting them.

Yes, it is best to leave gambling if we feel that it is no longer what we hoped for. We can't stay gambling while not getting what we want. Maybe it is time for us to leave gambling even though we have lost some money from gambling before, but that is a risk we accept because in gambling, we do have the opportunity to experience defeat. The defeat can even be big if we are not good at controlling ourselves and we will lose more money.

In the beginning, people played gambling just because they wanted to know what gambling games were like. But over time, they become more and more interested and then get deeper into gambling without thinking about what risks could happen to them so they keep gambling. And many people don't understand how probability works so they just get deeper and deeper into gambling without being able to understand when they should leave gambling. But they have been given the opportunity to quit gambling without any coercion and they still want to gamble because they still hope to win from gambling.

You are right, because we gamble for entertainment and pleasure, everything that has to be spent or paid for each bet must be acceptable and just think of it as payment for the pleasure we feel, the better idea is to think of these expenses as the same as paying when going to entertainment venues.
If we have wrong assumptions and always think that spending is not appropriate then my advice is not to continue and leave gambling because gambling is an activity that requires certain amount of money and of course you have to be willing to lose that amount of money.
Nothing is free, no one can get what they want just for free because satisfaction always has price to pay.

Indeed, every gambler can and certainly knows how probability works in gambling and in fact they still gamble, they still use the money they have earned from work just to gamble and most of them also gamble rationally.
The only answer is that they gamble with pleasure, in fact they are aware of all the risks and consequences of gambling which can result in addiction or massive losses, but they throw away all these thoughts for the sake of the pleasure they can get.
After all, they gamble with their own money and their own decisions so no one knows what their goals and mindset are towards gambling.

The worst mistake in any bet is to count only on winnings and forget about all the money you have already lost. I think this is worse than that player who bitterly recounts all the defeats he has had and is still chasing the loss, because the latter knows he is doing badly... the problem is when someone doesn't realize how much money they have losing, even if it's just for fun.

In fact, I think that if people actually knew all the probabilities of the game, they would play much less... most players enter games with the objective of making money and not having fun.

Would it be ideal for everyone to know the probabilities? Should casinos make this information very explicit: "your chances of winning something with this game are only 40%"?
No, I don't think so, because even then this information would still go unnoticed by many players.

It's not a tax, but there is tax included, like every other services you pay for. When you go to the movies, you are going there to have fun and there is a tax added to the ticket price. When you go travelling, eating out, to the night club, concert, theater there is also a tax included on the final price you are going to pay, but it worths, because you are getting entertained and satisfied. The same applies to gambling.

Why not? Rationally gamblers know the chances are against them on long run due to the house edge factor. Still, they are gambling because, rationally, it's a activity which gives them pleasure and enjoyment. If the gambling routine is functional, it's totally rational from gamblers side.

That is true, and it's a pretty rational thought from gamblers...

If people can't do that, just don't gamble. It's not a hobby for them in this case. If something isn't being healthy and rewarding for you, give up and stay away. What the people you mentioned should do is to seek for activities which will fulfill their personal needs. There are many other things to do aiming to liberate happiness and pleasure hormones.

Anyway, gambling process will only trigger such noxious responses in case the person has a predisposition to develop an addictive behavior. It doesn't happen to everyone, neither to most people. Only few people will face this issue, otherwise we would be already living in a society of degenerated gamblers.

In a way, you’re right. People who are aware and fully understand probability won’t necessarily fall into addiction. There is great awareness that the game could go either way and you could lose as well as have a win.
I don’t think we’re taught about the possibility of wining big with gambling. But the success stories of numerous people over the years who have played and won big with gambling. Those big wins won by other people is motivation enough for others to continue having high hopes of winning theirs. The more success stories they hear, the more motivated they become. He probably won’t be aware of the accumulated amount of money lost during the quest to win big.

Because and sports betting are games that depend on mathematical skills for the person to be able to achieve some success, but even so there are many people who are very skilled in mathematics and poker and who are people addicted to gambling, you can ask them how It is possible that those people should be able to take a few minutes to analyze the design of gambling games and they would easily be able to understand that gambling games were not designed for them to be profitable, but rather the house always makes a profit. but the ego speaks louder, greed speaks louder and the person who thought and acted more rationally begins to think more emotionally, completely forgets about mathematics and starts to cling to greed.

I myself have seen certain people who pride themselves on being good at math and poker, saying that they spent the whole day in a casino playing and drinking beer, wine and other drinks, after the game they go to the hotel to have sex with lots of women, so he can celebrate because he won. a lot of money. In his head he starts to look at the poker game as his fight against the casino in which they are mortal enemies. When the guy loses, he starts making threats that he will play again the next day and win a lot of money to harm the casino, and then he will play again the next day to win more money. and the guy actually goes back to playing the next day.

he no longer realizes that he is addicted to gambling, and when he loses all his capital the real problem begins, he will sell everything he has to go back to gambling, after he sells everything and there is nothing left for him to sell, he will not do it again. Some loan to continue playing and he asked for everything again. This cycle will only end when he is arrested or killed or if someone with courage and a good eye discovers early on that he is addicted and needs urgent treatment and takes him to the gallows and puts him in isolation in a place very far from people and with no internet for him. be able to heal. are the only possible ends

Gambling addiction is something we should never allow ourselves to get to experience before we are able to stop because in some cases, you may not be able to quit gambling at the time you get addicted especially when you begin to think towards recovering all they you have lost gambling, you may end up becoming so addicted that you may not be able to stop again.

When you gamble, don't allow your self to think that by gambling more you will be able to get back all that you have lost gambling because it's a trap to getting you addicted without really knowing but if you are cautious enough to just setting a limit daily regardless of how much you lost or win, there are chances you will maintain a healthy gambling habit with little or no addiction but it's best with no addiction. staying responsible gambling is another way to escape addiction especially when you know how well to manage your bankroll.

The truth is that everyone wants money and easy money at that and most have seen gambling to be able to do that and that is why we are having more gamblers this time yet many are not succeeding. Gambling winnings is only temporary. If you win today you may not win tomorrow and you will need to use the money won to keep playing until you have another win but being unlucky is usually the case that you have to go back to deposit more money.

Hoping to make huge earnings from gambling is skin to the reason for the bizarre news we get concerning gambling loses on this forum. If gamblers manage their bankroll properly, those cases of outrageous loses may not happen. Gambling is not a get rich quick scheme, it is most difficult to have a consistent win and if you don't have consistent winning you will earn up losing what you have won and make new deposit to continue playing.