Topic: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? - page 37. (Read 20577 times)

Sometimes you're pretty good at making it seem like you know what you're talking about.  Or at least difficult to expose how full of shit you really are. This isn't one of those times.

As beertolls already pointed out, the way you quoted just the first sentence from the paragraph below to defend Tash's argument makes you a shitty troll, a clueless idiot that doesn't care about the facts, or both.

You've come to the right place for answers!!! Prepare for thorough yet simple explanations by amateur virologists of Bitcointalk.org who received their expertise from the best Facebook posts.

Someone please explain this in bitcoin terms?

This is an excerpt from the link to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission that the other guy posted and which you are using as proof:
 "...mRNA-based medicines are designed to not irreversibly change cell DNA; however, side effects observed in gene therapy could negatively impact the perception of mRNA medicines despite the differences in mechanism."

They are talking about you. Because everything is the same to you if it contains the word DNA, it "negatively impacts the [your] perception of mRNA medicines despite the differences in the mechanism."

Use your little trick with Ctrl + F to find this excerpt.


You decided that. There is no proof (like in most of the posts of this nature) and thousands of reputable sources such as governmental agencies, research labs universities, clinics, and so on, state exactly the same facts as CDC. Moreover, many governmental agencies, research labs universities, clinics around the world confirm the efficacy and safety of mRNA vacines. You've made your mind and no amount of evidence will change it. You will continue to source information from Facebook posts and random iffy blogs on the internet.

What's interesting is that most of the medicine we use is tested in 3 phases during clinical trials and it goes through maximum around 50000 people (some are tested on no more than 15-20k), before it is granted market authorisation. Then it enters the IV stage post-marketing assessment- where it's used in the public. As for the vaccines they are used on more than 1 000 000 000, so you can do the math. But the medicine are tested around 10 years, not like the vaccines which are 1-2 years old.

Here's a handly little trick which works on most browsers.   brings up a search function where you will immediately find such things as:

Code:

Currently, mRNA is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA.

Quote from: beertoll on July 27, 2021, 11:24:43 PM

Myths and Facts about COVID-19 Vaccines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html
...

The marketing departments and state department psychological groups have determined that it's bad publicity to force experimental gene therapy injections on people.  Unfortunately for them, it takes a while for re-definitions to work their way through the systems.  In the mean time, mRNA injections continue to be 'gene therapy' as any logical person who has even a tiny amount of knowledge about the subjects can plainly see.

Reading the CDC's 'facts.html' serves as a great illustration of how duplicitous this wing of the medical/industrial complex is.  It's full from start to finish with the worst kind of obvious propaganda techniques.  The FDA is lagging the CDC, but will get there soon.

Are you just posting random links now with bullshit statements attached to them in hope that people won't read them? The link is just financial information.

People who call mRNA vaccines "gene therapy" have not read anything about neither of these different scientific fields.

Myths and Facts about COVID-19 Vaccines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html

Those who can not read, can watch this video called "Can mRNA Vaccines Alter a Person’s DNA?" in which Dr. Paul Offit explains why it’s not possible for mRNA vaccines to alter a person’s DNA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGKg9rj9W1s&ab_channel=TheChildren%27sHospitalofPhiladelphia

FDA considers mRNA a gene therapy product, the debate as-with settled.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1682852/000168285220000017/mrna-20200630.htm

Yes,Pregnant plebians who see ze good doctor smoking the menthol woodbine would be easily influenced by this medical professional. The same "professionals" advising your guberment today have sponsorships that would make your professional athletes look like amateurs and snakeoil salesmen look honest.

So can the right hon genT confirm as to whether that is a yea or a nay  

Hahaha youre kind would easily justify genocide if you were pushed hard enough. You are too cowardly to face the truth and too weak to be a brute.  But but but ...no go tell your selective facts to ze deformed children and dead mothers. Selective truths are nothing but the icing on a shitcake of lies

But but but you need to realize that you've posted a bunch of ads that are more than half a century old and that those products were in use on a regular basis for many decades before. The companies were able to sell them only because of poor regulations or there weren't any at all. People were smoking and using lead for centuries. And now we don't - BECAUSE THERE ARE EXPERTS.


AND Have you even read the article you posted?

In the UK, the drug was licensed in 1958 and withdrawn in 1961.

In the U.S., the FDA refused approval to market thalidomide, saying further studies were needed.

In East Germany, thalidomide was rejected by the Central Committee of Experts for the Drug Traffic in the GDR, and was never approved for use.

Ingeborg Eichler, a member of the Austrian pharmaceutical admission conference, enforced restrictions on the sale of thalidomide (tradename Softenon) under the rules of prescription medication and as a result relatively few affected children were born in Austria and Switzerland.


That's why we have organizations like CDC and FDA. That happened because anyone could sell anything they wanted.

is paid influencers with a title that makes them sound trusting

in modern times
would say 'many doctors of brand "frontline" say take daily parasite meds to dampen immune system because its good for you, saying they take it daily too..'

yes doctors/influencers advertising that a immune surpresser is of benefit are the ones you can tell were paid to sell a product rather than give facts

you can spot these paid shills because they say in most cases they have recently been let go from their medical role and are now 'speaking up' (accepting money for speaking roles)

so when you see an advert... oops i mean blog post/amateur video
ask yourself
is this "doctor" asking something of me involving me having to buy something regularly and take it daily

But but but listen to ze experts and trust the science  


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide_scandal

Finally, someone who posted a trusted source to support how effective vaccines are. I couldn't bother spending time to prove that anti-vaxxers are wrong, they wouldn't even consider WHO and CDC as a valid source. Whether we like it or not, we have effective vaccines to tackle the pandemic, it's our only way out of this situation.

^ Another load of misinformation with bs source links and taking pieces of information out of context.

Most of the "doctors" you mentioned are frauds and some of them have disciplinary actions against them. Like Dr. Robert Malone and the claim that he invented mRNA vaccines. He wrote some papers and did some experiments - he didn't invent the technology.
https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/3aa2eefd

Covid cases rapidly decline in most vaccinated countries. Easy to check using WHO Covid Dashboard or COVID-19 Map - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center:
https://covid19.who.int/
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

There are some of the most vaccinated countries that have surges that are easy to explain - they are going out of lockdowns and rapidly lifting restrictions and unvaccinated idiots people get infected or they have other problems with the process (partly because of people like you). Here is one example:
https://theconversation.com/covid-is-surging-in-the-worlds-most-vaccinated-country-why-160869

Around 93% of COVID-19 cases in recent days have occurred in counties with vaccination rates of less than 40%, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director Rochelle Walensky told a media briefing.
Preliminary data from recent months suggest 99.5% of COVID-19 deaths have occurred in unvaccinated people (https://www.cdc.gov/about/leadership/director.htm).

But again most vaccinated western countries see RAPID declines in death and hospitalizations from Covid and MOSTLY ONLY THE UNVACINATED DIE NOW (here some reputable source, not bs like luis46pr.wordpress.co):
https://scdhec.gov/news-releases/dhec-analysis-more-90-percent-covid-19-cases-deaths-june-were-among-unvaccinated
https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187
https://www.npr.org/2021/07/16/1017002907/u-s-covid-deaths-are-rising-again-experts-call-it-a-pandemic-of-the-unvaccinated
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210629/almost-all-us-covid-19-deaths-now-in-the-unvaccinated

Could it be that people spent there lives and career know more about this poison shot than some corrupt news preacher on idiot box?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57466608
Maybe professionals are not needed, news alone will do.
BTW eating a punch of school # 2 pencils does not prevent you from anything it does make you ill.
(American # 2 pencil is (roughly) related to an HB pencil on the rest of the world scale.)


MRNA Vaccine Inventor: Most Vaccinated Countries Are Experiencing Surge In COVID-19 Cases, While The Least Are Not.
https://luis46pr.wordpress.com/2021/07/19/mrna-vaccine-inventor-most-vaccinated-countries-are-experiencing-surge-in-covid-19-cases-while-the-least-are-not-this-is-worrying-me-quite-a-bit/

Why not?For people who cherish their lives, timely vaccination is the wisest choice.

Shitcoiner. Trader. Investor. Gambler. Miner...a little bit of them all. But even before bitcoin i have my eyes on health stuff..

Food colorings and sugars are very different things. But let's not continue with this. Both have nothing to do with mRNA.

What is your primary occupation, if you don't mind me asking?