Topic: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? - page 38. (Read 20577 times)

Yup just like sugar, high fructose corn syrup and your favorite softdrinks among others that will turn you into miserable diabetic pieces of shits.

Yeah you are no match for me specially now that you realize that mRNA are just being injected to humans in ~1 year and not 50 years  

Oh, you are one of those who are afraid of food coloring and other stuff with which the sinister government/corporations are trying to get you? You're obviously smarter than FDA and all virology research institutions combined. I'm no match for your intelligence and for that reason will not continue this debate.

Pretty on point.

The vaccine is creating a vampire cult. Either you are infected by the mRNA vaccine gene therapy or you are not one of "them".

In my country I see people that demand other people to take the mRNA shots as their 3rd shots even though they already got jabbed twice by the Chinese stuff. They become upset if you choose the other vaccine over the mRNA stuff. Pretty crazy.

Like this loser

vaccines come from a term involving putting a pathogen inside for the body to attack.
it originates from infecting people with a very small dose of the virus.

it is not plasma therapy, the act of putting immune cells into another person without those immune cells

vaccines are not plasma
plasma are not vaccines

actually its "at cost"
the only reason an american vaccine costs more in europe and an european vaccine costs more in america.. is delivery logistics.

the funds come from government. so while people are not paying it out of pocket as a service charge or an out-of -insurance premium. . its being paid for by quantitative easing money printing. so yea no cost at all not even from taxes.

for america. the $3 a dose for 150mill people twice so far is under $1bil.. lets round it to $1bil
out of a national GDP of say $7000bilion. now being $7001b due to QE
let it become that its caused

a $70 grocery bill to now be $70.01
a $7000 short term lease to be $7001
a $700,000 apartment purchase to be $700,100

but overall. no tax rise no out of pocket expense just to get the vaccine
no insurance headaches

tvbcof
YOU know its about protein and not DNA altering

but you want to fluff you feathers and flap your wings around with "gene therapy" to then misguide people down a rabbit hole of assumptions that its about DNA altering

just stop your quaking around like a legless duck going in circles.
mRNA is protein making not DNA altering

END OF
move on

Hideous trolls you say?...they are already here in this forum LOL.

Some are involved in the propaganda machine, some are chickens who just repeat what they saw and heard and some are just mentally deranged chicken shits who realized they made a mistake taking the jab and finding a release on us who did not participate the experiment.. or finding a justification for their mistake.. or getting others to meet the same fate they brought on themselves.

Insurances cover the Covid vaccine and in some other countries they are offering the vaccine for free. They might be profitable for the companies that are offering them but there are ways to get it for free unless you are not insured.

I have to admit that from a scientific perspective I myself will be fairly interested in how this experiment progresses.

Up 'till now it's all been just science fiction (and some of it VERY close to what actualized.)  I remember one movie I watched on late night a long time ago about some medicine which was suppose to make people live longer, and most people gobbled it down.  The pill poppers eventually mutated into hideous trolls (of course) that lived primitive and brutal lives in the disintegrating cities.  A few people had opted to go the 'natural route' and were normal.  They had bases from whence they went out on missions trying to rescue the other natural people who also avoided the medication but were trapped among the troll people and subject to increasing levels of abuse.  I forgot the name of the movie, and I might even have some of the details wrong.

I never watched much TV or movies or read much fiction.  As a consequence, when I did see or read a sci-fi thriller it tended to stick with me more.  One of the giant tech companies I worked for in Si Valley had a theater on campus, or part ownership or something, and practically force-marched us to watch the latest sci-fi/tech movie several times per month.  Even then I would tend to duck out and go do some real work, or just go home and research stuff I was actually interested in.

Vaccines are PHENOMENALLY profitable. Their rate of return is 20-1 in some cases and this "virus" was the pretext for a vaxx regime enforced by corrupt public servants on behalf of their paymasters. They have their sights fully set on a system that will ensure uptake through corrupt political coercion.

As I've said, it is closely related but not that similar to how that works.

What vaccines do is INTRODUCE the virus as a FOREIGN BODY that may harm the body, thus having the body to recognize the virus for future and fight it as a deadly foreign body, while on the other hand, GENE THERAPY is the alteration/repair/correction of a damaged sequence in the dna inside the cells.

Edit:  And:

This is super simple:

 - 'gene therapy' is the art of using genes to program cells to synthesize proteins.  (Note that it does not matter if the gene is on RNA or DNA, and it doesn't matter if there is an insertion into the chromosomal DNA or not.)

 - If the proteins synthesized from 'information transferred' by genes to the cellular machinery are recognized as antigens by the hosts immune system, the gene therapy can function as a 'vaccine' in the standard sense of the word.

I choose to refer to the stuff as 'gene therapy' rather than 'vaccine' for two main reasons:

  1) it is 'gene therapy', and until the marketing machine took over, the makers proudly advertised this fact.  Some marketing study apparently found that calling them that could spook the sheeple so they want full denial mode which is actually somewhat amusing to watch in real-time.

  2)  they don't seem to be 'vaccines' insofar as they don't provide 'immunity'.  That is to say, a dosed person can still acquire the infection, allow the virus to re-produce within their bodies, and can still spread the infection to others.  The whole discussion of 'herd immunity' is off the table when a 'vaccine' allows this.  Marketing team to the rescue again because they deduced that the vast majority of the peeps are far to stupid to understand this fairly obvious reality.

before you all got bamboozled by these vaccine ridden idiots who act like scientist around here, just look at the definition of "science" so you all get immunized from the words like "does not believe in science" and "scientific evidence"

here..

just tell the vaxxed chicken shit idiots here that they are the subject of observation and experiment. and you believe in science so you are waiting for data and results for short term, midterm, long term and generational.

 

I don't think you have enough scientific knowledge to understand how vaccines work, it's no use to explain to you because of your nature, being an anti-vaxxer. You're making bold claims against vaccines, without having anything to support your argument. You're free to do whatever you want, don't try acting like you know everything, you're clearly against scientific evidence of vaccines working and being safe to use.

Gene therapy is different from how the vaccine works. Though by first looks, it can really be confusing as GENE THERAPY works with the cells and the dna behind it the same way how the vaccine works, but the thing is that Gene therapy is used to correct defective genes in order to cure a disease or help your body better fight disease. while the vaccine works as just introducing the virus in the cells (healthy cells that is clearly not abnormal) for the body to fully recognize the virus as it enters.

That is gene therapy!


 "But what ARE electrolytes?  Do you even know?!?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKyoSS3bwjA

mRNA vaccines simply provide the instructions to create antibodies, it has nothing to do with gene therapy, it does not alter DNA, and I can't understand why there are people still believing this nonsense. It has been proven by many scientists that it has nothing to do with altering your DNA, nor it being gene therapy.

I've had both doses of the Pfizer vaccine, only had mild side effects after the second dose, I trust science and can also apprehend how they work.

mRNA does not go to the nucleus to edit genes(dNA)
it goes to the ribsome to create proteins
there is not replication factor and no gene editing occuring.

to be gene therapy it needs to contain enough code to produce another gene
.. mRNA does not do that

if you cannot understand the difference. then please do not be in the kitchen with a bunch of ingredients being told to make a omlette or a pizza. you wont know the difference

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as to ognasty
magnets-debunked. just stop licking coins before sticking them on your arm. its the moisture not magnets
passports to walk around - debunked. open your door and go for a walk.

superbug mutations. well unvaccinated people cause more strains more often so if anyone is going to cause superbugs. its mass UNvaccinated populations spreading viruses faster
in 2020(pre vaccine) there were 4 note worthy mutated strains(alpha beta gamma delta)
december 2019(alpha)-october2020 delta (4 strains in 10 months)

in from october 2020-now(10months) thanks to vaccines. we are still only observing 1 strain of significance. delta
yep since vaccines there has been no new strain of significance
no Epsilon no Zeta no Eta no Theta
yep we had 4(ABGD) pre vaccine but none post vaccine

When you believe that experimental fluid is a "vaccine" the rest of your logic can't stand anymore. It is a gene therapy, not a vaccine. There is a vaccine which is being made in China but then the Chinese are not the most trusted people out there when it comes to work ethics neither.