Topic: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? - page 66. (Read 20577 times)

The next country suspends astra-zeneca vaccine
https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0314/1203889-niac-recommends-suspension-of-use-of-astrazeneca-vaccin/

A few million doses of the right astra would have fixed the issue. Someone needs to get the sack for odering the wrong one.

Well the vaccine its strong enough to knock out boxing champions
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-9359529/Undisputed-middleweight-champion-Marvelous-Marvin-Hagler-passes-away-unexpectedly-aged-66.html

^^^ In Israel, it's exactly what you would do, because to not do it is to be ostracized from the community, and essentially the whole country of Israel... even though people are not being removed, as yet.

Start watching at 2 hours in to see that people are losing their freedom in Israel. https://www.bitchute.com/video/BGtSE3OfO2wv/

Here's what a vaccination for 'covid-19' looks like in Israel if you have the shekels and/or connections :

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/9YWAJg3u1RSy/

I cannot hold it against the guy since it is exactly what I would do.  Happy green-passing מיין פרייַנד!

Here's the deal that Pfizer was trying to make with Argentina (iirc.):

Pfizer is not allowed to lose a case for negligence.  Assets such as central bank reservses, military bases, etc are put up as collateral.

So, Pfizer is not successfully sued for negligence -->  They keep the payments for the vaccines gene therapies (which are a secret from the citizens and protected under non-disclosure agreements.)

Pfizer is successfully sued for negligence --> They get the central bank reserves and military bases of the country which is the collateral.

If I had to guess, I would guess that Pfizer would WANT to be successfully sued for negligence.  In this case they get 'hot money' (upon which reserve ratios are based) and they get valuable real estate.  The alternate is that they get printed paper, although I suspect that in the secret negotiations they do actually get more.   Possibly a claim on some 'tranches' of the human capital of the nation meaning a claim on future tax receipts that would ordinarily go to the treasury.

Argentina rejected that deal which is why we got some of the details.  Most Latin American countries struck a deal, but it's not known what is in it.  Safe to say that all 'developing world' nations who struck a secret deal are locked into some of the same types of arrangements.

I'm not saying it will resolve the conflicts of interests, but it will resolve the doubts and conspiracy against their vaccines. Though they might face a lot of consequences as their vaccines have been parceled around the world. And they might even go bankrupt. I see that this is just a wishful thinking that they would publicly say about it.

tvbcof..
i understand your philosophy
take africa importing rice(via NGO's) as the main diet staple means rice manufacturers can control who starves and who survives..
i get it. you think vaccines manufacturers can decide who lives and dies based on which regions they give excess distribution to to have high survival rate. and which regions get delays, lost batches. bad batches where the survival rate is decreased

you think that there is some nefarious eugenics game being played where some CEO is making a deliberate and evil decision of actually desiring to have certain populations protected vs other populations left to suffer

but here is the thing.
1. manufacturers supply to NGO and GO's via NGO/GO ordering it. no order=no supply.. and its the NGO/GO that then distribute it more regionally

2. the reality is not some deliberate eugenics plot to ration under developed area's for sole purpose of genocidal plots. its actually just a order/bidding process problem.

if some country pays $4 a shot and ordered it in july 2020. they get priority over some developing country bidding $2 but didnt present their bid until september 2020

yes europe made a bid after the UK so yes the UK got priority first
isreal bid higher price and before the UK. so isreal got higher priority than UK

its not a genocidal plot.. is a supply and demand first come first serve list

i can understand under some scenarios. a vaccine company could see 8bill people and say if:
china 1.4bill(17%)
india 1.3bill(16%)
africa 1.2bill(15%)
europe 800m(10%)
america 320mill(4%)
russia 144m(1.8%)
UK 70m(<1%)
and so on
then thats what the 'fair' distribution should be. equal distribution per capita
.. but thats not how supply/demand works.. it works based on first in/highest bid first

its not genocide. its business
once tyou start to see the business decisions. you start to see its a logistics problem not a genocide plot
take:
the UK. if 1 factory has a 200k daily capacity. it can vaccinate 0.28% a day
europe. if 1 factory has a 200k daily capacity. it can vaccinate 0.025% a day

so yea europe has to scramble to beg borrow or steal vaccine shots from other countries. or has to make 11x more factories than the uk has just to get on par with the UK
africa has less facilities so also has to scramble to grab doses from neighbouring continents

so its a production and logistics problem.

How on earth are they 'resolve' anything?  That would imply a re-formulation, and that in turn would imply another round of early trials (the normal trails being just performed on 100% of the vaccinated population.)

With the DNA AstraZeneca ('Oxford') in particular, I've anticipated since I first read about it that it is mainly a population management tool and probably will be tailored for a target population.  In areas with large reserves of resources, and so many people that it is hard to maintain political stability while stealing them blind, a different formulation might be being 'made available' already.  That hypothesis is bolstered by observations of the therapy seems to be causing 'blood problems' in one area but not in another.

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As for a 'country being heavily invested in a brand', it is probably more accurate to say that a 'brand is heavily invested in a country'.  As we know from the leaked info from failed deals, Pfizer is demanding that if Pfizer successfully sued for negligence then Pfizer gets bank reserves, military bases, etc of the country as collateral guaranteeing that such lawsuits won't occur.

We know about these secret deals from the minority of instances where negotiations failed.  The majority, where the country and the corporation DID complete a deal, the details are kept secret, but it's a reasonable assumption that the deals vis-a-vis collateral were similar.  In countries where negotiations stalled for a time it seems highly likely that it was these kinds of things which were being discussed.  Kudos to some of the bureaucrats who caused 'delays' because they probably resisted the graft and threats, and tried (unsuccessfully) to do their job for their nation and their people.  The details are likely to come out eventually since this is shaping up to be an event which people won't forget about immediately.

None of ours died, so I guess the claims is not applicable to our family tree xD

I can vouch for the Pfizer vaccine, as all of my relatives get this vaccine instead of that AstraZeneca. Some of my relatives are 50-60 yrs old, and they're doing fine since January when they got the vaccine. I hope that they can resolve the situation in the side effects of AstraZeneca since our country invested a lot in that brand.

My grand mother finally got the vaccine this week and she feels fine. I was afraid because she is 90+ but luckily she got the biontech Pfizer vaccine. I read that the AstraZeneca vaccine can have a lot of side effects, especially for elderly people. Now I hope that my parents will get the vaccine next month. It looks like this is really going to work.

The video that Del refers to and shows in part above, can be found here >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJZxiNxYLpc&t=2128s.

Download this one, because Youtube is known to remove videos without notice.



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More of the same IMPENDING COVID VACCINE CATASTROPHE
https://thehighwire.com/videos/a-coming-covid-catastrophe/

Doctors and Scientists Write to European Medicines Agency Warning of COVID-19 Vaccine Dangers
https://doctors4covidethics.medium.com/


Take your pick if real sick (not fake test positve) and in need of something which works
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56403712

For me, I'm not seeing anything real about that vaccine, is a world scam. The scientist should switch of 5G network instead of making vaccine that will kill faster than the Virus.

aussie health minister spent overnight for observations in hospital.being given antibiotics and fluids.
if you want to call that critical. then you hve no idea what critical really is
im guessing he got diarrhoea and they think its a stomach bug.
(you dont give antibiotics for flus/colds/viruses/vaccines)
and then the 'fluids' well either he forgot to drink.. or too much is coming out the other end where it shouldnt

as for the aussy navy.. id say there were some personal that probably had temporary arm stiffness and maybe some joint pain..
when it comes to workplaces. they get very protective about not wanting to push people to work when not 100% so going to hospital for some painkillers and then back to work in a couple days. contextually is not a big deal.. definitely not what i would call a 'taking out the navy. nor genocide like many anti-vaxxers think

i had the vaccine. i had arm pain.. big deal. rather have arm pain than have lung inflammation
if i was working a manual labour job. id take a day off and ask for pain meds.

much the same as if someone had sickness/diarrhoea
much the same as someone with common cold.

but an arm inflammation wont cause severe/critical effects compared to what covid lung inflammation does. so vaccine is better than covid

Joe Biden announces that anyone that is an adult can receive a vaccine by May 1st - https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/11/politics/joe-biden-one-year-covid-address/index.html

First thing is -- this would've happened without Joe Biden. Media is flaunting over his speech yesterday as if he had any involvement in vaccine distribution. Fauci has contradicted the Biden admin on whether there was a rollout plan and whether they had to start from scratch.

But who wants to guess how many 18-30 year olds will get the vaccine? Because my guess is about 1/4 within the immediate future, probably less.

A good way to take out a countries navy.... just one jab
https://principia-scientific.com/breaking-aussie-navy-in-covid-jab-cover-up-after-mass-adverse-reactions/

the issue was not the vaccine design.. it was a fear of certain bad batch.. due to a event where 2 people both had blood clots. within 48 hours of a vaccine

imagine there are 10k people having a blood clot per year due to natural blood disorders.
the chance of them having a vaccine within 48hours of a bloodclot is like 0.15%
pencil math:
for every ~660 people 1 will have a bloodclot within 48 hours of a vaccine
not caused by the vaccine. but jsut bad timing of odds of 2 events in same time period
meaning it can happen ~15 times in a year. 15 of 10k will have a blood clot and vaccine at same short time

this has nothing to do with vaccines causing blood clots in healthy people
this has nothing to do with vaccines causing blood clots in blood disorder people
this is about the bad luck of an event a group of people having sometime in 1 year overlapping with a second event happening within that same year.. making 15 out of 10k having a bad luck of 2 events overlapping but not causal related to each other.

the odds of 2 people having a clot on same day is far less likely.
so when it does happen. they need to look into it.. and they did

its like setting 2 events
in one day a year your going to have a birthday
in one year you will get a girlfriend
the odds of 10k people getting a girlfriend within 48 hours of their birthday is the same 15 people a year
(yep no vaccines involved 2 events happened not causal linked on each other)

however if its found that 2 people had a birthday and got a girlfriend at same time. then thats really luck
and worthy of looking into the possible other variables to see if there was something that caused it to happen
EG birthday on valentines day

so yes 2 people having a vaccine and a bloodclot within 48 hours is a statistical anomaly worthy of checking out.. AND THEY DID

Indeed, it is rushed, that's why side effects are yet to be discovered since clinical trials are shortened hence diminishing some possible effects in the body. And now, we are discovering. It is not a good thing that they put it already in human, but time is of the essence in this point in time, and given the positive outcome vs the negative, it is pretty good. But still must be wary for other kinds of effects, especially to old peoples and people with weak immune system.

Covid-19: European countries suspend use of Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine after reports of blood clots

That the vaccine causes blood cloths is not proven and is being investigated but to me this shows that there was a bit of a rush. If the usual approval timelines had been followed, these doubts would have appeared in the pre-approval phase. Besides, it seems that the vaccine of this brand is the one with the most side effects.