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Quote from: darklus123 on March 14, 2019, 04:14:45 AM

How are you going to give your trust to casinos? lol even the largest casinos in Vegas (who were actually proud that they are certified by the LGU) is still cheating on you. The only thing you will win their game is to play their game and that requires you to put a lot TAE(Time and Effort) and of course a lot of money.

Could you spere any link with proof that the LARGEST casino in Vegas was cheating? I just can't imagine what for. Why risking reputation if you are earning huge amount of money on everyday basics due to statistic advantage in every game.

Is so easy to throw accusations but when it comes to back them up there is no comment.

I assume that this member means that casinos use all tricks they can to take the maximum amount of money out of your pocket.

Some time ago I have read a book from a high stake gambler and just couldn't believe how strongly casino can influence your behavior and mindset.
This is enough to put machines in a specific order to trick people to play at lower chances and so on.

https://youtu.be/sI2kVJiiu3Y this is just one of the documentary to how corrupt the vegas casinos are.

Why am I actually saying this? because there was a famous gambler before going live for his daily gambling routine and he just caught how the staff cheats when he switches the color from the wheel if i am not mistaken. I still have to find that video tho so stay tuned.

By the way being away for awhile doesn't mean there would be no comment. I am not one of those users who stays 24/7 in this forum

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Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on March 14, 2019, 05:33:54 AM

Quote from: darklus123 on March 14, 2019, 04:14:45 AM

How are you going to give your trust to casinos? lol even the largest casinos in Vegas (who were actually proud that they are certified by the LGU) is still cheating on you. The only thing you will win their game is to play their game and that requires you to put a lot TAE(Time and Effort) and of course a lot of money.

Could you spere any link with proof that the LARGEST casino in Vegas was cheating? I just can't imagine what for. Why risking reputation if you are earning huge amount of money on everyday basics due to statistic advantage in every game.

Is so easy to throw accusations but when it comes to back them up there is no comment.

I assume that this member means that casinos use all tricks they can to take the maximum amount of money out of your pocket.

Some time ago I have read a book from a high stake gambler and just couldn't believe how strongly casino can influence your behavior and mindset.

This is enough to put machines in a specific order to trick people to play at lower chances and so on.

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Quote from: Symphonized on March 13, 2019, 08:05:37 PM

It works always if the odds are not against you (as in favour of your bet configurations).
You will still need to adapt the way you martingale and make up several new strategies.

As long you don't hit those probabilistics red streaks you will end up fine.
Using martingale in bets number 1 to 100 and then change to some other strategy type and return back at roll number 110 to martingale does change your odds of losing and you might end up profiting even more with martingale still.

Although you are using martingale, your still gamble you bet by not continuing every bet. Your still relying on pure luck to take profit with this strategy. Meaning, in gambling you should not only use one strategy to take profit because of the red streaks and trust your full instinct . Grin

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Quote from: darklus123 on March 14, 2019, 04:14:45 AM

How are you going to give your trust to casinos? lol even the largest casinos in Vegas (who were actually proud that they are certified by the LGU) is still cheating on you. The only thing you will win their game is to play their game and that requires you to put a lot TAE(Time and Effort) and of course a lot of money.

Could you spere any link with proof that the LARGEST casino in Vegas was cheating? I just can't imagine what for. Why risking reputation if you are earning huge amount of money on everyday basics due to statistic advantage in every game.

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Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on March 14, 2019, 03:48:23 AM

In fact ... as my program shows ... betting sites don't have to cheat to win against martingale system. But yea if cheating is as easy as adding 1 extra line of code into random number generator than we can assume that some of gambling sites are cheating. Thats why its so important to gamble on trusted casinos.

How are you going to give your trust to casinos? lol even the largest casinos in Vegas (who were actually proud that they are certified by the LGU) is still cheating on you. The only thing you will win their game is to play their game and that requires you to put a lot TAE(Time and Effort) and of course a lot of money.

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I don't think martingale work and after comes a lot of losses even if have a lot of money if come a bad series of losing bets you can't get a profit and in long term in my opinion martingale is not a good strategy.

You might not know that but there are a lot of people that won because of that strategy.

Obviously, it is not the strategy that is important, is the game that you are playing. If you will just be paying those games that require a lot of luck like those roulette games that might even be rigged, you will not win. If you will try gambling games that require your knowledge like sports betting, that would be really a great strategy.

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Quote from: darklus123 on March 13, 2019, 11:59:18 PM

I bet its not working , well shall we say if your script is really purely random then that is absolutely fine to try. Yet based on my experience most of the scripts being added on most of the betting site have countered that strategy. In a first few bets everything is doing wel. Until you start losing your money. Sadly that is how it works lol

In fact ... as my program shows ... betting sites don't have to cheat to win against martingale system. But yea if cheating is as easy as adding 1 extra line of code into random number generator than we can assume that some of gambling sites are cheating. Thats why its so important to gamble on trusted casinos.

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I bet its not working , well shall we say if your script is really purely random then that is absolutely fine to try. Yet based on my experience most of the scripts being added on most of the betting site have countered that strategy. In a first few bets everything is doing wel. Until you start losing your money. Sadly that is how it works lol

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It works always if the odds are not against you (as in favour of your bet configurations).
You will still need to adapt the way you martingale and make up several new strategies.

As long you don't hit those probabilistics red streaks you will end up fine.
Using martingale in bets number 1 to 100 and then change to some other strategy type and return back at roll number 110 to martingale does change your odds of losing and you might end up profiting even more with martingale still.

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Quote from: wwzsocki on March 10, 2019, 09:45:46 AM

Additionally, I see lately that casinos try to stop people from using Martingale and tight their rules to net let anybody test this strategy anymore.

Like I said and other users confirmed even with big bankroll you will lose using Martingale in the long run but still if one doesn't have any other better strategy, a martingale is still something to try in short period games to add some chips.

If one is lucky enough you can have your golden winning strike and should and take the winnings this is the only way to win.

With big bankroll (1000 times initial bet) you will spend few days in casino to double with lower propability than puting all money on red and going home. This strategy consume time only not giving extra propability in return. In fact decrising propability.

Just like what most of us here said, it's extend your stay inside the gambling house but never change the fact that in the long run you still have
a big chance to lose everything after, this system is a well known strategy that mostly failed, some might be lucky to earned the stop and quit
to enjoy some little benefits.

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Just find out that on Bitvest you have Auto-Bet section where you can play martingale automatically and instantly - if you dont trust my program and still want to test this system. With minimum bet equal to 100 sat (~0.4 cent) you can test this system with 10 000x times initial bet limit risking only 40$ without spending years on it.

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Quote from: wwzsocki on March 10, 2019, 09:45:46 AM

Additionally, I see lately that casinos try to stop people from using Martingale and tight their rules to net let anybody test this strategy anymore.

Like I said and other users confirmed even with big bankroll you will lose using Martingale in the long run but still if one doesn't have any other better strategy, a martingale is still something to try in short period games to add some chips.

If one is lucky enough you can have your golden winning strike and should and take the winnings this is the only way to win.

With big bankroll (1000 times initial bet) you will spend few days in casino to double with lower propability than puting all money on red and going home. This strategy consume time only not giving extra propability in return. In fact decrising propability.

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Quote from: wwzsocki on March 01, 2019, 09:58:24 PM

I was amazed by this strategy a few years ago when I online casinos where advertised so heavily and offered a lot of high no deposit bonuses.

Like I said I have never won in the end using martingale strategy.

Every time there was a moment when after hours of play I got 7 times 0 in a row or 16 times black or red with 0 in between.

I see people are writing that if you have big bankroll you can be successful with this strategy. No, you don't.

You will lose all in the end when such a moment comes as described above.

Yes I confirm
Tested twice yesterday with a big deep stake.
As you say an uncredible serie has ever come. Then broke...

Ok, so it looks like another player confirmed that it doesn't work even if you have a deep pocket. You better off with just a small streak and then quit. Because we all know that in the long run, probability will catch on you and you will just regret using this strategy.

Additionally, I see lately that casinos try to stop people from using Martingale and tight their rules to net let anybody test this strategy anymore.

Like I said and other users confirmed even with big bankroll you will lose using Martingale in the long run but still if one doesn't have any other better strategy, a martingale is still something to try in short period games to add some chips.

If one is lucky enough you can have your golden winning strike and should and take the winnings this is the only way to win.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on March 08, 2019, 09:17:28 AM

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Unlimited bankroll do only exist on our dreams and even bullionaires and trillionaires can possibly bust up and lose their money on an instant when tending to play dice. Grin

Martingale doesn't work and probability of losing streaks is high and no matter how big your bankroll is it wont guarantee safe profits or does work for long term.

We also shouldn't forget that in many places (or rather in most of them) there is a limit on the max bet, so even if you had an unlimited bankroll that wouldn't help you to win (possibly) the next bet since you are not allowed to make it.

I personally play with martingale strategy pretty often, but that's for entertainment purposes only, it's really a bad idea to think that you can make money with it. You should play in such a manner that you smile when hitting a long losing streak at how long it is rather than cry about how much you lose.

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Even if martingale works for those with a very high bank roll and no maximum bets they would be better of fusing their capital to generate money in other ways. Its simply not worth the time at that point.

It will never work long term, high bankroll that you have is just small compared to the house bank roll.
Only when you have unlimited bankroll will you will experience a real win, which in any case would not be possible, unless you are God.

Unlimited bankroll do only exist on our dreams and even bullionaires and trillionaires can possibly bust up and lose their money on an instant when tending to play dice. Grin

Martingale doesn't work and probability of losing streaks is high and no matter how big your bankroll is it wont guarantee safe profits or does work for long term.

That means martingale would not really work for long term due to the fact that no one possess unlimited bankroll.
Winning is possible but should be for long term or if you are lucky winning big in a good timing but only few can do that in gambling since not everyone is lucky.

Winning is possible when you are consistent and dice is a game where you can never be consistent because it's the house edge that will make it impossible.

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Quote from: BitBustah on March 07, 2019, 09:15:59 AM

Even if martingale works for those with a very high bank roll and no maximum bets they would be better of fusing their capital to generate money in other ways. Its simply not worth the time at that point.

It will never work long term, high bankroll that you have is just small compared to the house bank roll.
Only when you have unlimited bankroll will you will experience a real win, which in any case would not be possible, unless you are God.

Unlimited bankroll do only exist on our dreams and even bullionaires and trillionaires can possibly bust up and lose their money on an instant when tending to play dice. Grin

Martingale doesn't work and probability of losing streaks is high and no matter how big your bankroll is it wont guarantee safe profits or does work for long term.

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Quote from: BitBustah on March 07, 2019, 09:15:59 AM

Even if martingale works for those with a very high bank roll and no maximum bets they would be better of fusing their capital to generate money in other ways. Its simply not worth the time at that point.

It will never work long term, high bankroll that you have is just small compared to the house bank roll.
Only when you have unlimited bankroll will you will experience a real win, which in any case would not be possible, unless you are God.

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Even if martingale works for those with a very high bank roll and no maximum bets they would be better of fusing their capital to generate money in other ways. Its simply not worth the time at that point.

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Even if you have a million dollars to play using the martingale method, you have a high probability of winning but not in a long run, you will bust all your money before you know it so nah it doesn't work, keep your eye open for the profit don't be greedy as it's the main enemy.

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The only way Martingale works is when you have unlimited amount of money. Otherwise, the house edge always wins. It works well for the first few times though. You could get away with profits but if you keep doing it, you are bound to go down with nothing.

And then you have unlimited amount of money you dont need play any gambling you can just enjoy your life Grin

That's a very smart answer mate Cheesy

, if you have unlimited money you don't need to gamble anymore lol. martingel works if you're
lucky dude. how much your capital, you can lose 10 times in a row, so luck is still needed in this strategy

Luck is always needed everywhere . And in this strategy you require a lot of money too and not practical for many people so for them it will not work and will be based in luck only to make money from this game too . Instead people should enjoy and have fun .

Theoretically large money prevents from busting using martingale but in practice it isn't true . Just 2-3 more losing bets will bust hell lot of money . The probability might be very very very less but still its easier to lose tons of money in this strategy.

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