Topic: Does mathematical calculations really work in lotto or is it just guess work? - page 3. (Read 863 times)

The formula in the past may be more reliable when the rule framework as well as the lottery numbers are not complete, more accurate, the thinking ability in the past era was relatively low and so the formula is not easily discovered. As the times develop, the applicable formulas have become unknown, besides the organizers' calculations have constantly changed with the times, mathematical parameters are no longer valid because the organizer no longer maintains any rules, it is completely irregular and in this era we can only guess more, instead of calculating.

Gambling generally is centred on luck and that mean all we do is mere predictions. However it's only in sport betting that we use some of our experience to make quality predictions which might seem as though we are not guessing, and to be honest that what brings the fun from sport betting. But considering Lotto being a game of number prediction, it's obvious it's just guesses and nothing logical there. All those who think they've come to understanding the algorithm by studying and playing for long, they are only deceiving themselves.

Getting the numbers themselves isn't exactly hard, they're always set within a limit after all. Now matching that number to the results of that specific draw is the hard part, probably impossible even. I'd say you can probably filter some out, but keyword here is "some". The combinations possible in the assumed group would still be enormous. Iirc there was one mathematician who did that exact thing, and bought idk how many tickets (just a lot) to hit it lol. It was still a profit ig but still a massive loss if it didn't hit.

And naturally, if anyone were able to actually calculate the lottery numbers, they'd have already done so and would've struck it rich multiple times. In the end there's only 2 plausible reasons for a person winning a lottery, luck, or rigged.

In the case of gambling, no matter how much you calculate, it is ultimately your prediction and it is not a possible sure thing that will definitely happen. But these predictions increase your chances of winning a lot. But ultimately gambling always depends on luck. Therefore, I think that even if you can make a good calculation and prediction, there will still be a risk of loss.

Are you sure about that? in my area a 60% of the population lives in capitals, and it is expected that this percentage will rise in the next years up to 80%.

This, added to the fact that people in the city may be more prone to play lotteries because of their exposure to ads or the simple fact of having a branch near could explain these results.

There is a correlation between the premiere of films started by Nicolas Cages and cases of drowning in swimming pools. But it is because these films are usually launched to market in summer. So there may be also a more reasonable explanation to the coincidences you mentioned than that the games are fixed.

Don't take me wrong, your theory can be true. I don't know where you live but there are many countries where corruption is high.

A lot of discussion on lottery mathematics is there on the internet. But there is no guarantee that you will hit the number being drawn, because then the top math people would have already made the casinos bankrupt, which is not the case, indicating that the luck factor is very prominent here.

Hence you can buy a ticket for $6 and "pray" that you hit, keep repeating this everyday for the next 5 years (gotta hit the pot right?) and congratulations, you have just wasted 6*365*5 = $10,950 on nothing but air.

Its foolish to do this continuously, but few learn the folly.

Saw a lot of interesting story about mathematicians winning in lotteries and also some people teaching a strategy to win on youtube. But I don't think there's any of it is really true. The odds to win in lottery is so low and there's low chance for a people even if they are good at mathematics to hit the possible computation and get the possible winning result. So for me its all about luck that's why I don't believe in any stories like that since maybe some people just release that interesting stories to market up the lottery on their places also in other parts of the world.

Curiosity will rise up if there's huge price involve that's why I guess those people spreading that there's mathematical way to increase their chance to win is just fooling people since maybe they enjoy when people got crazy on the story they build up.

Yes, every lotto will be subject to simple statistical odds - whether you have a 1 in 3000 chance of winning or a 1 in 100 million chance of winning. It comes down to the simple fact that theoretically you could buy a ticket for every single outcome and be 100% sure of winning the jackpot, however the jackpot will likely be engineered or likely to reach the point where that outcome is going to be profitable. As for so-called forecasters, unless the game is rigged, then they have no insider information because these lottos just rely on a version of a random number generator and it is not possible to pick winning tickets on that basis. It also is the most obvious example of - if you can pick winning lottery tickets, why aren't you just doing that and becoming megarich?

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Yes, I do. I am this person with the notion that casino gambling is purely based on luck but lotto is an exception to this and it depends on the kind of lotto we are talking about. There are some that the past records can be used to calculate future outcomes and I've seen some good bettors winning with some combinations by forecasting through the past outcomes. I thought it was a joke until a friend of mine who operated a lotto as an agent of the company proved it otherwise. There are some regular faces that win through this approach for real.

He also wins through this and often tells me how practical and provable the past combination could indicate the future results. This, however, doesn't work all the time, and the reason is that out of the many past results to reference, the lotto company might only select randomly the one in which the history will be used to calculate the next outcomes. That is the puzzle within the lotto they have to solve in addition, which is difficult to ascertain in practice.

Had it been it always followed a specific pattern in history where they know the actual ones to calculate from, they would always be winning because there is a certain formula for this.

Are you sure? Because if that is real, then we can think that many gamblers will buy lottery tickets rather than gamble in card games and sports betting.
I know some are doing this and in fact, some of my neighbors did this for many years but it is sad to say that they never win the jackpot prize. This claim never works in reality aside from having an inside job and manipulation.

There are some rumors spread in our country that some people pay millions to the operator to win the jackpot prize worth millions as well. This is a big secret behind all these winning numbers, not the said mathematical calculations that you hear.

First thing to believe is that gaming and gambling machines have algorithms that are truly unpredictable, even casino operators cannot solve the algorithms for the gambling they offer, I think the chances will remain small.
Unless it is game of skill such as various card games then I sure mathematical calculations will really help gamblers to win, but if it is in lottery machine then the chance of winning is probably only around 25% to 50% and will not be more.
I also know that there are many gamblers who always rely on certain calculations to be able to win the lottery, but basically everything they bet on only results in much more losses, winnings are still rare to get.
There is no guarantee that mathematical calculations will be able to provide definite win and this is only form of strategic effort for gamblers to produce predicted numbers in their bets to be more confident in the numbers they are betting on.

Logically the lottery is lucky bet and those who manage to win big and get the jackpot are the people who have that luck, the luck of once in lifetime.

The main reason why people bet on the lottery is because of the huge prize they can win with a small amount. They don't care about the calculations since the game is purely based on luck, with the chances of winning probably not even 1%. When you bet on the lottery, you can't expect to win; that's why it's called a jackpot—because out of millions of bettors, there's often only one possible winner, and sometimes there's no winner at all in a single draw. In our country, the lottery is a state-sponsored form of gambling, and I bet sometimes because the funds generated are used to help the poor.

Yes but as OP asked whether anything mathematical can help to win it, no of course not. But there are human behaviors that make it less likely to win big IF you win.

Everyone who has ever been to a casino or to Las Vegas knows these people who are crossing off last numbers when they play roulette. One round the 15 shows up, so they cross it off the list and take a different number next round and it makes zero sense!

36 numbers + 0. 37 numbers in total. The probability for any number to show up is 1/37th. Crossing off numbers even makes people look kind of stupid if you ask me.

One of the main things that you should really be that making yourself that realize that when it comes on playing or betting with lotteries then you shouldnt really be thinking up about mathematical
approach because this is something that would really be that nearly impossible for you to have that kind of chance or odds for you to win up. Dont bother yourself on such condition because it will really be just that making you hopeful on the moment you would be making up those ticket purchases on which i could say that it would really be that bad in overall because it would really be just that bringing up that huge disappointment into you on which this is something which is really that not good. You should really be buying up tickets just for the sake of fun on having those lottery but just like been said
that better not to expect that much because odds on winning is really that close to impossible.

Interesting, I will quote something you said, "I noticed that experienced forecasters and even scammers sell "sure numbers" and other gamblers will pay money to buy these numbers". if this is something that is "sure", why should the forecasters sell it. I mean, if someone has a definite formula or prediction, why not use it himself and not have to sell it. it is said to be "sure numbers", thus referring to something that can be assumed to get it right. this is a little funny, but let it be because it is an inseparable part of gambling. especially, one that smells like lottery betting.

Lottery, is one part of unique gambling betting. In many countries, especially Asia, lottery is always popular with various levels of society. in fact, quite a few try to use strange methods to get random numbers which they will combine later to purchase tickets. not a few, some use something mystical. in several levels of society, especially Asia, it is not something foreign to us. that's what's unique about the lottery, it can bewitch those who like it to do various kinds of predictions or calculations to get random numbers which they will later choose as the numbers they buy in their lottery tickets.

For me personally, it is impossible to get exact numbers, especially in lottery gambling. I really don't think that lottery predictions or calculations will be as easy as what we discuss here. why, at least in my environment there are many people who like lotteries. they do it in various ways, yeah one of them is as we discussed. therefore, I prefer sports over lotteries that really rely on luck. even then, it doesn't necessarily mean we will be lucky. especially, if it is a type of lottery that gives big prizes. but quite a few people become rich when they win the lottery, not a few of which we discuss on gambling discussion boards. to your question, I answered no.

Though the winning of Lotto is always as a result of a random event, but with the use of mathematics, most especially "Probability Ratio" I'm sure one is at a greater chance to be able to calculate the chances he is likely to have to win a Lotto game. But let's be sure that having such chance, doesn't come from buying a single ticket, because one thing I have come to understand is that the more tickets a person buys, the more he/she is likely to increase his/her Lotto winning chances. Hence if you intend to increase your chances, you should be able to buy more, at least 10% of the total Lotto tickets, and we all know that acquiring that comes with huge responsibility and finance, but let's also know that it still doesn't guarantee your winning, but rather increase your chances.

Example:
The total amount of tickets a Lotto has to be sold is 10,000, calculate the percentage chances a person has if he/she buys (a) 1 ticket (b) 10 tickets (c) 100 tickets (d) 1000 tickets

Formula:  Percentage chance (%) = Number of tickets bought/Total amount of Tickets  x 100%


Solution:

(a) If a user buy 1 ticket, then it means that the percentage chance he has to win is 1/10,000 x 100% = 0.01%

(b) If a user buys 10 ticket, then it means that the percentage chance he has to win is 10/10,000 x 100% = 0.1%

(c) If a user buys 100 ticket, then it means that the percentage chance he has to win is 100/10,000 x 100% = 1%

(d) If a user buys 1000 ticket, then it means that the percentage chance he has to win is 1000/10,000 x 100% = 10%

That is, the more tickets you buy, the higher your chances of winning

Exactly the point, litter is a game of lucky number and what the player's are after is how to meet the number requirements for the machine that will give them the winning ticket and since lotto is not like sport bets that can be easily analysed.


But lotto is big different from sport bets and this can easily be separated, I think anyone that want to buy a lotto ticket should be ready either lose or win.

If you use mathematics to draw conclusions regards gambling, you are just going to be able to find out what your winning chances are, and they are really low... Mathematics can't help someone picking the right numbers the machines are going to deliver. Mathematics will just show you the probability of a determined number being delivered, but it's never a guarantee.

And even if you decided to play many lottery tickets at same time, so you could take advantage of every possible outcomes, it would be unprofitable in the end, because the costs involved in purchasing all those tickets would surpass the potential prize you could receive from them after all. It's better to play randomly and count on your luck to win. And if you can't win, just forget about it and move ahead... Gambling shouldn't be the main focus in life, anyway.

Everything relies on luck when it comes on lotteries. No mathematical expression or calculation would lead to winning because if there is, many mathematecians should be rich by now. There are instances such scheme works to some people but if it is with consistency then things would be different. Think of how many people aren't winning even if they sit on a single set of numbers for the rest of your life, the probability is just way too big.No gambling activity is an easy profit, believe me. You'd risk again and again but winning won't be puhsed or made possible by frustrations alone. Some people are even saying that you are more likely to be struck by lightning than to won a lottery. Now think of how hard it is, just to be analyzed and be predicted by mathematical equation alone.