Does this thread really deserve the attention it has got? - page 6.

TMAN

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Quote from: xolxol on January 06, 2020, 02:01:11 PM

Quote from: TMAN on January 06, 2020, 01:58:58 PM

Quote from: xolxol on January 06, 2020, 01:54:18 PM

The post itself is bullshit,he might be an alt of these abusers.I dont find the post you linked useful,its about celebrating shit its clearly an abuse but you see these moronic DTs wont admit it.

Look you little stink nugget, I have no alts I struggle to keep up with my crypto business and rl commitments as it is, we ain’t all little pajeet fucks like you. Time is money and all that, plus I am firmly against alt accounts, unlike yourself, Ch and TOAA

Cuntwaflle

you really think if you said that it will be proof that you dont have alts?words doesnt mean anything here esp if it comes from an abuser like you.

Ok princess whatever you say. Are you running out of scented candles or tampons?

@ETF all good dude i know what you meant

xolxol

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Quote from: TMAN on January 06, 2020, 01:58:58 PM

Quote from: xolxol on January 06, 2020, 01:54:18 PM

The post itself is bullshit,he might be an alt of these abusers.I dont find the post you linked useful,its about celebrating shit its clearly an abuse but you see these moronic DTs wont admit it.

Look you little stink nugget, I have no alts I struggle to keep up with my crypto business and rl commitments as it is, we ain’t all little pajeet fucks like you. Time is money and all that, plus I am firmly against alt accounts, unlike yourself, Ch and TOAA

Cuntwaflle

you really think if you said that it will be proof that you dont have alts?words doesnt mean anything here esp if it comes from an abuser like you.

TMAN

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Quote from: xolxol on January 06, 2020, 01:54:18 PM

The post itself is bullshit,he might be an alt of these abusers.I dont find the post you linked useful,its about celebrating shit its clearly an abuse but you see these moronic DTs wont admit it.

Look you little stink nugget, I have no alts I struggle to keep up with my crypto business and rl commitments as it is, we ain’t all little pajeet fucks like you. Time is money and all that, plus I am firmly against alt accounts, unlike yourself, Ch and TOAA

Cuntwaflle

LoyceV

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Quote from: TMAN on January 06, 2020, 01:41:15 PM

Not that I have to justify anything about my merit handouts other than to Theymos if he asked.

Indeed:

Quote from: theymos on October 21, 2018, 09:28:55 AM

If they complain about amounts, tell them to complain to me.
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Aside from that, if people complain about whether things deserve merit at all, then that's something to perhaps think about, but if you conclude that they're wrong, then that's that. You don't need to stress about it or defend yourself constantly. It's conceivable that someday you and I will end up disagreeing too much about this stuff and I'll remove your source status, but it's really not a big deal.

Quote from: TMAN on January 06, 2020, 01:41:15 PM

People seem to forget that being a source is a pain in the arse when you are busy, I have a responsibility to hand them out so that’s what I do, I don’t have as much time on the forum all the time like I did previously but I do feel that I still need to spunk my source load every month. If a member is 100% not a shitposting pajeet then I have no issues dropping 50 on them, even if it’s not their best post I know it’s going to one of the most deserving posters. When time constraints come into play I will continue to hand out in this fashion until I’m told not to by Theymos.

I don't mind being a Merit source (and I even asked for it), but indeed, it feels like a never ending task of getting rid of continuously replenishing sMerit while non-source users complain sMerit is scarce Tongue

At least TMAN is active again: didtmansayabadword.tk Cheesy

fillippone

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Quote from: TMAN on January 06, 2020, 01:53:11 PM

Quote from: fillippone on January 06, 2020, 01:43:16 PM

Quote from: TMAN on January 06, 2020, 01:41:15 PM

If a member is 100% not a shitposting pajeet then I have no issues dropping 50 on them, even if it’s not their best post I know it’s going to one of the most deserving posters.

I am here!
I am here!

Fuck off.. you got more than enough... although I’m sure I have handed you more than the standard 1-5 on a few occasions dude

Comic relief ended,
Back to very serious conversation and merit transactions analysis.

xolxol

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The post itself is bullshit,he might be an alt of these abusers.I dont find the post you linked useful,its about celebrating shit its clearly an abuse but you see these moronic DTs wont admit it.

TMAN

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Quote from: fillippone on January 06, 2020, 01:43:16 PM

Quote from: TMAN on January 06, 2020, 01:41:15 PM

If a member is 100% not a shitposting pajeet then I have no issues dropping 50 on them, even if it’s not their best post I know it’s going to one of the most deserving posters.

I am here!
I am here!

Fuck off.. you got more than enough... although I’m sure I have handed you more than the standard 1-5 on a few occasions dude

fillippone

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Quote from: TMAN on January 06, 2020, 01:41:15 PM

If a member is 100% not a shitposting pajeet then I have no issues dropping 50 on them, even if it’s not their best post I know it’s going to one of the most deserving posters.

I am here!
I am here!

TMAN

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Does that mean you have no problem if TMAN bothered look The-Devil's merit history to find posts with some information (such as https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53398134) before giving 50 merits ?

That is what I did bud. Checked posts to make sure he wasn’t a shitposting twatmuncher and just dropped 50 on his latest.

Not that I have to justify anything about my merit handouts other than to Theymos if he asked. People seem to forget that being a source is a pain in the arse when you are busy, I have a responsibility to hand them out so that’s what I do, I don’t have as much time on the forum all the time like I did previously but I do feel that I still need to spunk my source load every month. If a member is 100% not a shitposting pajeet then I have no issues dropping 50 on them, even if it’s not their best post I know it’s going to one of the most deserving posters. When time constraints come into play I will continue to hand out in this fashion until I’m told not to by Theymos.

Upgrade00

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Smerits distribution can be debated on but it is not really an issue the forum wants for focus on (from a couple of replies theymos has given regarding the issue) except the user is a source.
If every 'weird' transaction is to be scrutinized it could discourage some from sending them out to avoid getting backlash for it.

I tend to be stringent with my merit distribution, cause I usually only have a few merits on my hands and like to keep a few till I can earn some more, but I see nothing wrong in giving a huge chunk at a time, as far as it's not a trade, in which case the user(s) would run out very quickly, as the redistribution can only go a few cycles. And while clear cases of merit abuse might not get you a red trust as it's impossible to prove, it could get you on the ignore list of a couple of sources, further reducing their chances of ranking up further.

In my opinion, it's a system that regulates itself.

Nandini_crypto

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Quote from: hd49728 on January 06, 2020, 09:17:54 AM

The point is no one can rank up to Senior Member, Hero member, or Legendary member by 5, 10 or 20 rounds of 50 merits like that. No one can successfully get it (from only one user or from some others) without being caught. Such cases if occur are seriously and will be treated in one way or the others.

@hd49728
If you have checked ~50 is the exact number of merits required by THE-DEVIL to become a full-member. Hope you have noticed that. I read in the below thread that 100 merits required to be a full member:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350

Now it is the activities required.

fillippone

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Being a Merit Source, with a more than decent allowance, is a time consuming job.
I think LoyceV and Theymos are not on very different positions actually: giving 50 merits to anyone not just plainly spammer, and the forum would benefit from this, as the merits would probably slowly trickle down in the merits economy.
But I personally prefer to do small amount of merits per post, taking my time to read the forum.
Yes, this require some time, but hey, I did ask to be named Merit Source!

All this to state the point: it's very hard to deem a single merit transaction as unfair. This could have been some sort of "delayed" merits for a previous post the merit sender couldn't fine anymore and wasn't merited at the posting time because of a variety of reason. Or there are a ton of other legitimate reasons for this.
Whatever.

OP, concentrate on your own posting habit and on your own posting style.
Merits will eventually come.

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on January 06, 2020, 10:16:51 AM

<...>
I have never awarded more than 4 sMerits in one go, but
<...>

Yes, but... [FUN] Is DdmrDdmr even human?

(why that post is not on Meta?) I was so clueless at the time!

hacker1001101001

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Quote from: LoyceV on January 06, 2020, 12:51:18 PM

Quote from: hacker1001101001 on January 06, 2020, 05:51:48 AM

It is OK.

Quote from: theymos on October 21, 2018, 09:28:55 AM

It's best if sources try to exhaust their source allocations, even if it means giving posts higher amounts than is typical. If you have 150 source merit and you only see 3 merit-worthy posts in a month, then I'd rather you over-give each of them 50 merit than let the merit expire. That way there are more people capable of sending merit, and the "merit economy" is less top-down.

I don't really agree with theymos here, and I wouldn't have done it myself, but in the big picture it doesn't really matter: if a user isn't a spammer, 50 Merit doesn't hurt the forum, and he gets to merit other posts again.

The drawback of not sending 50 at a time is that I'm still sitting on 8% of all the sMerit I ever had. And having a busy day like today doesn't help Tongue

Sprinkling them on users having longer usernames could be an great idea rather than watching them decay. Tongue

BTW, I too don't agree with sending that high amounts of merits at a time as many posts deserving merits go unnoticed everyday around.

LoyceV

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Quote from: hacker1001101001 on January 06, 2020, 05:51:48 AM

It is OK.

Quote from: theymos on October 21, 2018, 09:28:55 AM

It's best if sources try to exhaust their source allocations, even if it means giving posts higher amounts than is typical. If you have 150 source merit and you only see 3 merit-worthy posts in a month, then I'd rather you over-give each of them 50 merit than let the merit expire. That way there are more people capable of sending merit, and the "merit economy" is less top-down.

I don't really agree with theymos here, and I wouldn't have done it myself, but in the big picture it doesn't really matter: if a user isn't a spammer, 50 Merit doesn't hurt the forum, and he gets to merit other posts again.

The drawback of not sending 50 at a time is that I'm still sitting on 8% of all the sMerit I ever had. And having a busy day like today doesn't help Tongue

DdmrDdmr

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Quote from: Nandini_crypto on January 06, 2020, 05:35:00 AM

<…> My question is, what message is this thread conveying that is useful to the community? Merits in my understanding are to encourage the account which is giving useful information to the users here. The thread does not even contain the struggle he did to upgrade his account, so that some newbie can be inspired.

I can speak as to my gracious and overwhelming generosity when I merited the referenced post with … 1 sMerit …

Yes, the post is scarce in detail on the struggle (barely any) to rank-up to Jr. Member, but being xMas (at the time), what it does convey is a kind of kid’s illusion when achieving something, along side a dash of positivity which is not always encountered here, and less of all on the lower ranks. That, as a message, seems beneficial in terms of attitude, and thus I personally deemed it meritable.

Note: I am rather mean with sMerits myself, but I’ve been giving this fact a thought lately. If I were to run short of time, I’d have to open my sMeriting options to either award less sMerits per month (on aggregate), or award the same largish amount per month, but to way less posts (thus more merits per post). I have never awarded more than 4 sMerits in one go, but if I do encounter time restrictions, I’d have to opt for one of these two options.

crwth

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The one TMAN gave is a whole lot better compared to this thread linked below.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53531936

Just like what I have said there on that topic, if it were during the time of the birth of merits, it would have been easily considered to be "suspicious" rather than spending their own merits to whatever post they want. Nowadays, it's best and easier to get merit just because of the users' accumulation or the circulation that merit sources get.

The OP shouldn't rely too much on checking others' posts and posting about it, maybe asking the giver, knowing that he is an active member, what he thought about the post, and why he gave it to the poster.

TMAN

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Quote from: hd49728 on January 06, 2020, 09:17:54 AM

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you had 50 off me before yourself IIRC.

eddie13

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This devil account has aroused my suspicions a while ago but it had nothing to do with this 50 merits thing..

hd49728

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The point is no one can rank up to Senior Member, Hero member, or Legendary member by 5, 10 or 20 rounds of 50 merits like that. No one can successfully get it (from only one user or from some others) without being caught. Such cases if occur are seriously and will be treated in one way or the others.

I made 21 topics and sure my post quality and topic quality are much better than that post but I don't feel anything bad or wrong for me by looking at that. If someday, you wake up and see your account received 50 merits from one user who don't know, will it be okay for you? I think you will do feel it is okay and enjoy it, guys.

hacker1001101001

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Is that case true here that there are no post available that are worth for merits? I can search worth threads and show, even the OP of the thread I shared has very good post in his past that would have been considered right? Do you @hacker1001101001 really think that this thread was worth it. I felt that the tread I shared is over rated.

I can understand your frustration and concern about that post getting 50+ merit. In real sense the post surely doesn't even deserve a single merit if considered singly, but one could debate that he has sent the merits to all the post's of the user overall. Basically it is not fair to many members who are hanging around there heads by putting efforts in each comment they make and showing best out of them. I personally have never got that amount of merits in single transaction until even after putting good amount of efforts in whatever I put up here, even I feel the same as you by looking at the unusual merit springs from TMAN. But, it's already stated by theymos being Ok and one can't argue on merit sources being active most of the times as they are not paid for it.

I would even push users with huge merits to keep track on some threads which highlights newbies or atleast good poster's around and think TMAN did the same and got the suggestion of meriting that user from here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2019-bitcointalks-newbie-of-the-year-2019-5215097.

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