Topic: Done with the topic: [New format] Merit Abuser Gang [Now 18-1 cases] - page 3. (Read 2311 times)

Good job. Now it is the time for the moderators who want the proof of merit trading what you will do now the moderators.

didn't satoshi create this forum...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/welcome-to-the-new-bitcoin-forum-5

Why would I or anyone for that matter leave this forum just because we don't like one part of it or some of the people here, that doesn't make any sense.  No place is perfect, mr passive aggressive.  If we've been here years through all the spammers and scammers a stupid little forum point system like merits is nothing in comparison.  The points don't matter, the ranks don't matter, the badges or any other nonsense doesn't matter.  We're here to communicate with each other about crypto and for better or worse this is the biggest and best place to get information about it.  That's all the matters in the end.

Anyways, I'm done.  This whole thing is spiralling into off topic land.

Rules of this forum were given by Theymos and this forum also was created by him. If you think it's stupid, why you still there? Merit system won't help improving this forum I don't know what's happening with your mind . It's preventing account farmer and shitposter in this forum. If you still complain about it, why don't you leave this forum? This isn't the only Bitcoin forum or you still want to stay here cause it's the only forum that you can earn money with? LOL. Stop explaining

"get what i deserve"?  What is wrong with you people?  You have some serious problems.  You act like because I didn't follow some stupid little new rule they just made up that I wasn't even aware of that it's the same like I ran over a bunch of kids with my car or something.  Oh that Sparky guy he is so evil.  lol, wow.

I'll make it simple, anyone negs me for this silly little episode and I'll neg you right back.  This whole thing is ridiculous and shouldnt've even gone this far.

You want to actually improve the forum?  Merit system won't do it.  Get the mods to ban and remove more posts like they do everywhere else, take reddit for exmaple.  Get more mods if there aren't enough, crypto made everyone rich and they can afford it.  This forum has the lowest moderation and highest spam of any I've ever been on, so many genuinely useless spammers get away with so much here that they wouldn't anywhere else.  That's how you solve it.  Playing small town merit police isn't the answer.

What are you trying to explain for? As I can see, you're not a DT member so your negative feedback will not affect to him. Beside When I looked at your Merit summary, I can ensure that you're alt account of BarkingHawk or you sold your Merit for him . 75 Merit points for 2 old trash replies posted when Merit system even wasn't created yet? No need to explain about your Merit summary anymore cause everybody will know about it when they take a look at your Merit history.

Sigh.  You just don't get it, it's not some trickery.  I tried to explain my situation first and the PM was all about giving you a chance, one that you didn't even bother to give me before negging me.  Enjoy yours then if you can't be anything but rude, I never called you insulting names. You seem to lack basic comprehension of what I'm saying and compassion.

Again, you're judging me thinking you're somehow better because some of my posts don't meat your arbitrary high standards.  Then all almost 900 of my posts must be worthless right? Get off your high horse, what a joke.  Thinking I have to somehow prove myself to, you don't mean anything.  There are almost an endless string of actual spammers and crooked people on this forum and you're choosing to give me a hard time.  You're going to have a very difficult time here if this is how you choose to interact with people.

Enjoy your neg, I'm done talking to you.  If you have a problem with any of my actions report me to the moderators or staff next time as they're the ones who actually make the real decisions around here and not people like you trying to play their role.....poorly.

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Lastly I'll say on the merit system in general, it's a poor format.  If moderation was what it is like on many other forums there wouldn't be a need for it at all.  There are so many things that happen here that generally don't at many other places.  I'm not sure why that is exactly, but it happens regardless.  Spammers are allowed to have free reign with little consquences, at other places they are banned very swiftly.  Places that deal with even more web traffic.  Moderation here needs to be way more harsh.  Crypto has exploded, surely it can't be because of understaffing.   Spend some money or something and hire more mods if that's the issue.  Spammers will get tired of making accounts if you're quick to get rid of them but I've seen almost nothing done in some many cases so they just do whatever they want.

I already explained all this in my other posts in this thread, you didn't read them.

The system is indeed abused by a lot of users who are forming their own secret clans to help each other.

It is enough just to look at the list of posts being merited to think, very often.. "WTF? This silly post deserves a merit?"

I am sorry to repeat here a concept that I have also expressed somewhere else, but in my opinion the ONLY solution to make sure that the quality of the posts is increased without giving all the power to do that to the members (who, as documented here are forming their own clans to help each other out) is a STRONGER, TOUGHER moderation.

A stronger moderation policy cannot be easily cheated.

All that is needed is something like "you post crap. I delete your post and give you a warning for doing it. After x warnings for the same reason (let's pretend it's maximum 4 warnings for posting crap) I ban your account PERMANENTLY".

As simple as that.

That would work much better as a deterrent than this absurd merit system whose power is left entirely in the hands of the members to happily abuse with and also it would not penalize newbies.

Just my two cents.

Listen up good mdayonliner.

First of all, you are not the staff, you are not Satoshi or anyone who started this forum.  You're just some guy wasting time on a power trip obsessing about some trivial new rules that joined the forum a few months ago.  I've been here for years involved in crypto, you are in no place to judge me or my intentions.  You really should be focusing on something more important than this with your life.  I don't really have to explain myself to you, but I will anyways to induldge anyone that is listening and might think this is something important, which it's not.

Again, I didn't even want these merits to begin with.  If they never existed and the forum never gave them to me that would've been just fine, I couldn't care less.  Because of this whole thing they're way more trouble that they're worth with everyone bitching and moaning.  "here have some free stuff but you can only use it in a certain way or you're in trouble!"  What joke, you can keep it then.  It was just something free that fell out of the sky like an airdrop that I got rid of, I don't want them and have none left now.  Even if I didn't have a high rank I would still be here discussing crypto and I would be involved in crypto.  This forum is here to discuss ideas and communicate with each other.  All the ranks and merits and blah blah is a bunch of superfluous nonsense, you're getting way too caught up on that.  You don't have these kinds of ranking systems on other communication platforms like telegram for example because they don't matter, the words and messages matter.

Yeah I noticed people using merits, but again I don't care so I didn't pay all that much attention.  I still didn't look into the rules deeply after that because it was a waste of my time.  It's some meaningless self validation junk such as likes on facebook or thumbs up on reddit, who gives a shit.  I did multiple trades because that's how he wanted it done, again I didn't think about it too much.  That's all the explanation that is necessary, nit picking every minute detail is some ocd level of obsession.

I stand by what I said in that PM I sent you, negging me is completely uncalled for.  I don't have any more merit left and I won't be using it again if I do get some more.  From what I see the system is heavily flawed and not worth participating in if it results in things like this that are wasting even more of my time.

Thank you for your response...

Ok I believed your story of ignorance and unawareness on the first one. Let me highlight something that you said...

And this person clearly is BarkingHawk. The BarkingHawk has proven guilty PERIOD


Merit bought on the table on January 25, 2018 and the first time one was really from your ignorance since your sent it on January 26, 2018, 05:51:53 AM.

It clearly proves that it was from ignorance and unawareness. I'm ok with this because this is an innocent mistake.


Question is now...
 Since then to before sending the 2nd time (50 merits) on March 04, 2018, 01:31:31 AM, do you really want me to believe your story?

From January 26, 2018, 11:57:18 AM to before sending the 50 merits ( March 04, 2018, 01:31:31 AM ),
you made 102 - 32 = 70 (!) posts and exactly 36 days, 19 hours, 39 minutes and 38 seconds gone and you are saying you did not have much interest in them and your understanding was you're going to lose them at some point so you decided to trade them?

Being actively posting on the forum almost everyday you never came across with all these merit/smerit debates, conversations? Your ground is too weak to believe.

Truth is you saw money on the merits so you held them and may be still holding them hoping to trade these with some money. I think I still have my ground to keep the red trust.  

You are welcome to bring your facts to get rid of the red trust.

- Just imaging if I have to message all these users personally asking the causes then I would not be able to do others stuffs. Take it easy.

- I'm sure The Pharmacist did not mean to ignore merit abusing.

Yes it seems to be unfair right now we are trying so hard to get merit points. If everyone is thinking about themselves then it will probably be wrekage to the forum rules. I think that forum should have to give equal chances to everyone. Why higher ranked members got the right of merit points to be distributed. Everyoneone may not be corrupted but some of them making the water of pool dirty. And new members are suffering of this.