Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 142. (Read 734725 times)

 to be honest this is extremely arrogant thing to say. i dont care who you are or what you've achieved in your lifetime but having such biased remarks do not put you in better light. in fact it actually draws a clear image of nation that you tend to represent, even though you are brought up on western values. by saying "most of the world" you forget the fact that the actual "most" of the population is in china and india. i live in place where there alot of nationals from all over the world. those who actually come from china and india and not the ones born in north america respect russians for the history and how much they managed to achieve. coming from asia, most can refer to engineering sector, military equipment, science etc. intellectuals mention music, art, balley. ohh and by the way actual ukranian people are too huge contributors to these achievements, prestige and status of russian empire as well as ussr.

 my neighbour is a musician from kongo, he travels all over africa playing world music. he absolutely loves russians, in fact he claims that people in most african countries that are having corrupt "democratically elected" presidents (who are placed there by western bankers) cant wait for russia to become strong again like in 50-80s to kick those parasites out. most africans still remember the times it was actually going more or less well - bridges, power plants, dams, infrastructure etc were being built then that is still somehow is functioning until today with very little maintenance. i have a russian mate who travels central africa investing and doing business there. he told me that the police and local cartels never touch them unlike western officials who they call leeches.

 most iranian and syrian people i met speak highly of russia claiming that they would not exist if not their northern ally. my eye surgeon in moscow who also teach in university is syrian who came to study and stayed. when i been to south armenia there were plenty of iranian tourists and they respect russia for its place in history.

 i have a cuban neighbour too by the way. this guy shakes my hand very hard and saying few russian words every time he sees me - and im not even russian national, i was just born there. do you even know what it feels like to be respected like that just for sharing such identity? it feels good. although i cant claim any responsibility for how russian history turned out to be - for good or for worse. at the end of the day when people notice that russia is becoming stronger day by day i feel more respect being drawn towards me while being surrounded by the international community.

 - this is the identity that your "democratically elected" leaders are trying to detach ukrainians from. can you blame those who refuse to be detached from the russian identity? a country is not a prison - you cant force people to live there against their will. the only thing that glues any country together is identity. once you make segregation watch pieces fall off. 'divide and concur' comes to mind, no? 100 years ago ukraine as such didnt exist. those who designed ukrainian state to be the way it is are doing so merely to bite off a piece off russian zone of influence. but its fine. if you dont relate to russian culture anymore you can go, but please dont force those who still wish to be part of russian culture to become something they are not. please understand that.

 now if you claim that "most of the world" hates russia then ill have to upset you. the "most" part that you are referring to (ie north america) cant even locate ukraine on the map. in fact the actual "most" of them dont even know the difference between ukrainians and russians. so when these people claim such things you have to realise that they probably hate ukrainians too.

lol Russia is actually wayyy better than the western banksters and warlords. Talking about oppression, Russia has not bombed its own nation to increase the control of its population with shitty patriot act, russia had not start wars all over middle east, destabilizing every country they invade for the oil, or could it be for their criminal yet never sanctionned Israel buddies (concentration camp here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAU_e0819KQ), russia did not caused the global economy to collapse in 2008.. and the list goes on and on..

You seem to have a short memory as to how oppressed people around the world are because of that western capitalism. Litterrally BILLIONS of people are dying in manufacturing camps (ie for you precious iphones), starving, or dont even have access to water whilst you flush your dumps with it.. In Africa, Asia, South America, they have all been spoiled and oppressed by them greedy sociopath bastards.

Stop bitching man they had it coming and im glad putin is standing in front of them, even if he has done some pretty nasty things before. Whatever, it cant be worse than what the west have done or is planning to do..

(bail ins, more misery, more poverty, joblessness, helpless and hopeless (young) people imprisoned in that consumerism prison.. )

It's a good thing Ukraine has more bitcoin ATMs than any other country in the world  
http://www.coindesk.com/5000-terminals-across-ukraine-now-offer-bitcoin-cash/



Most of the world hates Russia. Want me to post the evidence again? I noticed you keep repeating the same things and the same lies over and over again. Either your masters are late on your last payment, and you are putting in the bare minimum of effort to shill and spread Kremlin propaganda until your check clears, or else you are simply following the words of your soviet hero, "A lie told often enough becomes the truth."  - Vladimir Lenin

So, when people in Western countries get tired of the corrupt bankrupt governments, and rise up to overthrow them, will myshownow and the rest of the stooges here be claiming that these protests against corrupt western governments will also be staged and paid for by "The West" with western propaganda spurring them on?  


Contrary to what you morons keep suggesting by these posts,

• NO ONE HERE ON THIS BITCOIN FORUM IS FIGHTING FOR THE SURVIVAL OF THE DOLLAR, OR FOR THE BANKING INDUSTRY.
• NO ONE GIVES A SHIT IF THE DOLLAR COLLAPSES, SINCE WE WILL ALL BE WAY RICHER THANKS TO OUR BITCOIN HOLDINGS GOING UP IN VALUE TREMENDOUSLY.
• NO ONE ACTUALLY SUPPORTS NAZISM, OR BELIEVES THE RUSSIAN LIES THAT UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT, WHICH SOUNDLY REJECTED FASCISM IN THE ELECTIONS, IS FULL OF NAZIS.
• THE ONLY CONCERN ANYONE HAS IS THAT RUSSIA, A PROVEN TOTALITARIAN REGIME THAT HAS REAL EVIDENCE OF INFRINGING ON HUMAN RIGHTS, OPPRESSING FREEDOM, MURDERING DISSENTERS, AND SPREADING PROPAGANDA, IS DIRECTLY INVADING ANOTHER COUNTRY, AFTER THAT COUNTRY HAS VIOLENTLY DEPOSED A RULER THAT WAS TRYING TO IMPOSE THE TYPES OF RESTRICTIONS ON FREEDOM THAT RUSSIA HAS.

No one is rooting for US or "The West." You guys keep setting them up as strawmen, as if that's what your opposition is fighting for, as if THE ONLY alternatives are "You are either Pro-Russia, or you are Pro West/USA," but that is a false dilemma, and they are nothing but strawmen whom no one on the anti-russia side gives a shit about. Got it?

IT'S NEAR WRAP-UP TIMES, FOLKS


Well, the tipping point has arrived and the crumbling of the villains is really accelerating...

Frightening? Curiously the end of the Anglo-Zionist-American Empire is turning out to be a comedy...


THE MASTERS

LOL, this is becoming funny. The bankrupt Western powers are really desperate they have to truck their agents just to man their skits AKA "revolutions". They have been failing in their skits actually- in Brazil, in South Africa,Turkey, Iran, China, etc. I guess they seemed to have worked in Ukraine but it was just because they were used in their own game.  

BTW, they have also been losing all their wars when there is another superpower against them- Syria, Ukraine, etc.    

THE SLAVE

IT thought by rubbing shoulders with masters which it thought were rich and powerful, it will become somebody... but it turned out the masters were losers and bankrupt.

Like it, actually.LOL  It turned out it joined a club of bankrupts and losers... and it joined them as they collapse all plummeting down...

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-22/ukraine-introduces-capital-controls


 

GOOD TIMES FOR INVESTMENTS IN CRIMEA & other choice spots of Russia: PREVIEW OF CRIMEA'S KERCH BRIDGE WHICH JOINS IT WITH RUSSIAN SOUTH MAINLAND

I am planning investments on Crimea & Vladivostok.

 Western propaganda is not simple backbiting against their enemies. There is a actually profit motive component to their extra-democratic interventions in other countries: to depress the price of a region they are interested to swoop as vultures in so they can cash in when the price inevitably climbs up in time. But it's the sign of the times even this type of propaganda has been lost by the West forever, everybody knows they are useless with Crimea (or in any part of Russian sphere for that matter). Take Crimea. The Western propaganda was precisely to dampen investment on Crimea, but there are no longer many dumb people left. Now that Crimea is part of Russia, it's plain common sense that Russian money will drive in so values are skyrocketing fast (after all, it was Russian money which drove up high-end real estate prices in New York & London). The Russian military just announced building 70,000 units for its military, and even Ukrainian real estate companies have branches that registered in Crimea itself to avail of the bonanza (in effect, recognizing Crimea as part of Russia). The most frustrating part is that the luxury beach segment is really very hot nowadays, every Russian wants to have his own beach hideaway, becoming expensive fast. The Ukrainian poverty and dilapidation are clearly forgotten..

Good times are obviously ahead for Crimea. Infrastructures galore. WE can get a preview of the Kerch bridge by looking at this bridge in Russky Island, Vladivostok, the longest suspension bridge in the world.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGYdqSFuwV0


Vladivostok, one of the most beautiful cities in the world

In Vladivostok, the three countries with the highest cash reserves meet- the largest is China, Japan then Russia. We're talking of cash here, not debts, which those in the EU and across to the US have plenty of, actually they are drowning!      

More on Vladivostok. THis is taken on Russky Island just at the outskirts of Vladivostok center. THis is the site of the Far Eastern Federal U where this clip was taken. You can see the long suspension bridge here. But there's another suspension bridge, which I like better, the one at downtown but not seen here in this clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFNNxL5C39M

Again, I'm not Russian. Like most of the world, I am now a fan of the Russians because they had the gall to fight the bankrupt Western powers. They are very hot now despite the WEstern propaganda press which nobody reads anyway (frankly, nobody cares about bankrupts, especially if they pretend they are not     ).  I travel a lot though, & I've seen Russia first-hand, like most of the world, btw...

Crimea & Vladivostok, two places of breathless growth as nervous funds flee from the crumbling pretenses of the bankrupt West...

Neither has Kim Jon Il and Kim Jong-un of North Korea. Should we all worship and defend them too? (despite them still running WW2 style concentration camps and killing millions of people)

Also, Russian propaganda is not "in opposite" with western propaganda. Propaganda is propaganda. Only difference is whom is being lied to.

And another also, read up on some fucking history. Russia did not deceive the world with international financial mumbo jumbo from a capitalist banking perspective, but they sure as hell had 60+ years of imperial warfare and subterfuge, and have been deceiving the world with communist financial mumbo jumbo, which, unlike capitalist mumbo jumbo, has actually killed millions of people, and continues to kill today. Not from military invasions, but from starvation and oppression directly caused by it.

Does this mean we can stop all the distractions about the "nazi Aidar batalion from Ukraine" and just focus our attention on the remaining nazis from Russia? Like these guys for example?

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukraine-crisis-who-are-russian-neo-nazi-groups-fighting-separatists-1463489


and much much more, including more info on those Odessa "protestors"

EXTREMELY false. Ukraine's military has been decimated over the last decade by corruption and by budget cuts to the military, mostly on the assumption that Russia is all peaceful now.


When Ukraine went to fight against thugs and terrorists, it was winning easily and could have won this fight. Once Ukraine started fighting against Russian military and russian support in the form of money and weapons, they started losing. Yes, obviously Ukraine can't beat Russian military.

Of course! http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/ukraine-russia-troops-border-east-poroshenko  Though the article says only 8 have called their moms. There are plenty of actual evidence of dead russian soldiers who dies in Ukraine though.

Why? The power that was actually peating and shooting protesters was kicked out along with Yanukovich himself. I think you are confusing Russia's Puppet Ukraine, and Post Protests Ukraine.

Maybe cuz, in opposite with western propaganda, russia has not deceive the whole damn world with 60+ years of imperial warfare and some international financial mambo jumbo scam?

Actually, what's really fucking depressing is that this is a repost from a zerohedge article posted by the group under the pseudonym of "Tyler Durden," who are fellow bitcoiners, anti-bankers, and anarchists. It's really depressing seeing so many counterculture types who reject west's propaganda fall hook, line, and sinker, for the Russian propaganda.

The progression as Kievan Rus as a nation, then the nation was destroyed by the Tatar Mongol invasion (while Moscovie was spared due to them agreeing to submit to mongol rule), at which point there was no single nation/government, but still the same people with the same common ancestry living there. The area experienced constant attacks from east and west by Russia and Poland, with the people often captured and taken away into slavery, until cossacks rose up to fight off the invasions and protect the people in their area. Eventually the cossaks formed a large union, still in Ukraine, and attempted to establish a unified Ukraine, again. Then Russia came in and broke that whole thing up and took it over yet again.

Point is, it doesn't matter what the land was called, or who was in charge, the land and the people were always the same, and they were always completely different people with a completely different ancestry from Russia. But Russia tried to steal that history by making up their own, to make it seem as if their ancestry came from Kievan Rus, when it didn't. Ukrainians understand this, and they will always continue to resist invasion by Russians, just as they did they were Kievan Rus, when they were Cossak tribes, and when they were Ukraine.


LOL! What? Moscow was founded in 1100's, almost 300 years after Kiev and Kievan Rus. The fuck you walking about?


Oh. Well that explains everything.

Photographic and video evidence are delusions to you? You must live in a very weird world...

President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko said that during the fighting in Donbas 60-65% of the Ukrainian military equipment had been destroyed. Truly astonishing number, especially if we remember that the pre-war Ukraine had one of the most heavily armed armies in Europe. Poroshenko also said that the conflict in eastern Ukraine cannot be solved militarily. (source: Radio Free Europe)

I think it is becoming glaringly clear that the truce and peace talks were badly needed by Kiev because it was on the verge of crushing defeat. However, questions remain: why did the rebels agree to stop their counter-offensive and what was promised to them? Time will tell.

In other news: allegedly, Ukrainian forces abandoned their important stronghold, city of Debaltseve, and number of other places, in which rebels are entering right now. This can not be verified yet.

so true..

Berkut officers killing on Maidan were Russian Soldiers



 Igor Des @Copernicus2013
Maidan beatings victim recognizes #Russia specops soldier who was dressed in Berkut uniform as her torturer pic.twitter.com/6N8nFSC042 #Ukraine




 lennutrajektoor @lennutrajektoor
BREAKING This picture of #RUS soldier in #Ukraine Berkut fatigue is made Jan-Feb 2014, the bloodiest time on #Maidan.



 Euromaidan PR @EuromaidanPR
A #Russian paratrooper who lost his legs in the fighting in #Ukraine was dressed up as a #Berkut on the #Maidan,#Kyiv





 lennutrajektoor @lennutrajektoor
BREAKING On the 1st picture Maidan activists who personally "spend time there" cnfrm this is Berkut HQ in Kiev,JanFeb




 Keith Krebs @KeithEKrebs
@RutheniaRus: Russian Spetsnaz operating in the uniform of Ukrainian BERKUT. pic.twitter.com/e8zo0iKMIs RT @letokot @PavelShehtman”#maidan

 AlekUA @_Alek_UA_
So thats why Berkut ran away 2Crimea after shooting protesters on Maidan in Feb? It wasnt Berkut, it was Ru soldiers https://www.facebook.com/oleksandr.arhat/posts/10202447739530456?notif_t=like …

source http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.nl/2014/09/berkut-officers-killing-on-maidan-were.html?m=1

Some quite revealing and shocking infographics:
http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/derivatives/bank_exposure.html
http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/world_debt/world_debt.html

A short summary:
The Committee of Soldiers' Mothers, a West-financed NGO has come out after several years of silence (during the time when Serdjukov was the Minister of Defence and the silent corruption and destruction of the Russian Army was going according to Washington plans, when regular soldiers' conditions were abysmal, they didn't let out a pip, but as soon as order started returning to the Army, the committee got resurrected) and started demanding clearing up the fate of Russian soldiers "killed" in Ukraine. Turns out all the soldiers (save one, who is still being located) in the list that they presented are alive and well and conducting service at their dislocation points. All the boys in question have already contacted their relatives.

A story from real life: