Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 67. (Read 734725 times)

I'm on your side of the argument but I have to point out he could be referring to the Katyn massacre by the NKVD, where thousands of the most educated Poles - officers, doctors, etc. - were rounded up, and executed many with a bullet to the back of the head.  (Although I believe, many more were put out on barges then sunk).

The Soviets blamed this crime on the Germans for decades, and many Poles have not forgiven "Russia" for this national catastrophe.   Nor has Russia properly apologized or taken responsibly for this, or any of their atrocities against Poland in WWII.    Just trying to shed some light on Poland's seemingly pro-banderite stance, but not justify it in any way.

I'm on your side of the argument but I have to point out he could be referring to the Katyn massacre by the NKVD, where thousands of the most educated Poles - officers, doctors, etc. - were rounded up, and executed many with a bullet to the back of the head.  (Although I believe, many more were put out on barges then sunk).

The Soviets blamed this crime on the Germans for decades, and many Poles have not forgiven "Russia" for this national catastrophe.   Nor has Russia properly apologized or taken responsibly for this, or any of their atrocities against Poland in WWII.    Just trying to shed some light on Poland's seemingly pro-banderite stance, but not justify it in any way.

I'm on your side of the argument but I have to point out he could be referring to the Katyn massacre by the NKVD, where thousands of the most educated Poles - officers, doctors, etc. - were rounded up, and executed many with a bullet to the back of the head.  (Although I believe, many more were put out on barges then sunk).

The Soviets blamed this crime on the Germans for decades, and many Poles have not forgiven "Russia" for this national catastrophe.   Nor has Russia properly apologized or taken responsibly for this, or any of their atrocities against Poland in WWII.    Just trying to shed some light on Poland's seemingly pro-banderite stance, but not justify it in any way.

A deteriorating humanitarian situation amid the hardship of an approaching winter in east Ukraine is giving the Ukrainian national government an opening to turn the local population against Russian-backed separatists.

The government of Ukraine is restoring pensions, salaries and other government services in areas it recaptured from separatists last summer, while cutting off regions still under separatist control, Col. Oleksiy Nozdrachov, Ukraine's chief of military and civilian cooperation in the Donbass region, told USA TODAY.

The result of that hardball tactic: a rise in suffering in separatist-held areas that has turned people against the rebels, as the national government had hoped. Nozdrachov said during a visit to Washington that there have been protests against rebel leaders in a number of cities, and separatist militias were expelled from at least one village.

Residents in those areas "have dialogue with colleagues and relatives in other areas of Ukraine," Nozdrachov said. "They see the old territories liberated by Ukrainian forces now are coming back under normal life."

Workers in those areas are receiving salaries and pensions, stores are full of goods, and there are no armed gangs on the streets, he said. "This shows the population in occupied territory that the situation under the Ukrainian government is much, much better."

The national government has cut off the separatist economy from Ukraine's financial system, government subsidies and health and educational benefits to "apply economic pressure against the rebels and incite locals to rebel," said Janusz Bugajski, an analyst at the Center for European Policy Analysis, a Washington think tank.

I see a lot of angry Russians in this thread.

Did you prayed for Putin's blessing today?

It wasn't about unarmed prisoners, but about deserters.
Enacted by Djugashivi/Stalin - a Georgian.
And now this practice is encated by law in modern Ukraine.
PoWs in USSR got better rations than the Soviet citizens. Get your history strait - historical accuracy is not optional thing to serve your needs.

So I´m a Russian now ? Okay, so be it,  I don´t really have any objection  

A "federal subject"? Good one

This is exactly how Russians feel about these republics, that were formed in the lands of their former Union "our subjects, our land" and Putin in his imperial vision would gladly bring these strays back in his arms.

I see a lot of angry Russians in this thread. You shouldn't be ashamed, you have such a beautiful history of shooting unarmed prisoners in the back of the head (1940), just like ISIS is doing now.

Did you register here just to tell us to have a nice day?

Mostly agree with you, except the special kind of soldiers thing. Simple everyday artilleryman will do that. They get an order with coordinates and schedules and then they firing to those coordinates according to the schedule without knowing what are those targets. The special kind of soldiers are the spotters and the commanders in charge for target acquisition.

326 pages of kremlin paid bullshit. Nice!
Do you guys really think someone else
except yourself still reads this topic or
takes anything you write seriously?

have a nice day