Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 66. (Read 734937 times)

The militantly pro-Ukrainian Dnipro Battalion leader- turned-MP Yuri Bereza has promised to "burn down Crimea, with all of its residents if needed," vociferously refusing to “liberate the peninsula in a somewhat cultural manner.”

If this Pornoshenko guy lasts out this month it´ll be a miracle. Since he is a total puppet of the mob you can just imagine the pile of garbage he has around him, domestic and foreign. I´m sure the U.S. Embassy has a helicopter at the ready on the roof to ship junk out quickly. All this pile of crap has led the Ukraininian military from one disaster to the next and I´m pretty sure that patience is about to run out there. Maybe he´ll end up with an AK-47 up his butt. Stay tuned.

The latest breaking news from Ukraine:

1. The family of Ukraine president Poroshenko has urgently left the country via a charter flight. This means that the situation in the country is much more unstable than is being portrayed, and the true extent of turmoil is being underplayed. It also means that Poroshenko knows that he may be unseated any moment and has negotiated an asylum for his family with his handlers in the West as part of the Minsk agreement. Instead of flying straight back to Kiev after Minsk, Poroshenko actually went to Brussels first where he had undisclosed conversations with EU politicians, including Merkel and Hollande. Undoubtedly, this is where the asylum was negotiated.

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2. Ukraine sources are reporting that since the population is sabotaging the mobilization, Kiev junta is now conducting a forced mobilization. The military board a city bus and tell women to leave, while all the men who remain on the bus get herded into trucks and sent to the front. People from Zaporozhie (in central Ukraine, one of the cities that wants to join Novorossia) report that national guard breaks into people’s homes and forcefully hauls off the males into the army.

All this is happening after Minsk peace agreements have been signed and as ceasefire is supposed to be in effect in Donbass. Meanwhile, Donbass reports that there is no ceasefire and that Kiev army is consolidating its forces and attacking the positions of self-defence. They have again attempted to take the Donetsk Airport, which, according to Minsk accords, is supposed to be part of the DNR territory.

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3. German sources report that US military advisors in Ukraine have been busy. According to German intelligence, Americans were able to bring onto the territory of the Debaltsevo cauldron a ‘suitcase’ nuke. It appears US has nothing left to lose after Germany and France broke the ranks and sat down for peace talks with Russia.

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The potential false flag involving a mini-nuke inside the Debaltsevo cauldron is supposed to be blamed on Russia. Therefore, Russia gets again painted as a villain that detonates nukes in poor Ukraine. This may result in more EU sanctions and in US delivering those lethal weapons they had been threatening to send.

I'm on your side of the argument but I have to point out he could be referring to the Katyn massacre by the NKVD, where thousands of the most educated Poles - officers, doctors, etc. - were rounded up, and executed many with a bullet to the back of the head.  (Although I believe, many more were put out on barges then sunk).

The Soviets blamed this crime on the Germans for decades, and many Poles have not forgiven "Russia" for this national catastrophe.   Nor has Russia properly apologized or taken responsibly for this, or any of their atrocities against Poland in WWII.    Just trying to shed some light on Poland's seemingly pro-banderite stance, but not justify it in any way.

I'm on your side of the argument but I have to point out he could be referring to the Katyn massacre by the NKVD, where thousands of the most educated Poles - officers, doctors, etc. - were rounded up, and executed many with a bullet to the back of the head.  (Although I believe, many more were put out on barges then sunk).

The Soviets blamed this crime on the Germans for decades, and many Poles have not forgiven "Russia" for this national catastrophe.   Nor has Russia properly apologized or taken responsibly for this, or any of their atrocities against Poland in WWII.    Just trying to shed some light on Poland's seemingly pro-banderite stance, but not justify it in any way.

I'm on your side of the argument but I have to point out he could be referring to the Katyn massacre by the NKVD, where thousands of the most educated Poles - officers, doctors, etc. - were rounded up, and executed many with a bullet to the back of the head.  (Although I believe, many more were put out on barges then sunk).

The Soviets blamed this crime on the Germans for decades, and many Poles have not forgiven "Russia" for this national catastrophe.   Nor has Russia properly apologized or taken responsibly for this, or any of their atrocities against Poland in WWII.    Just trying to shed some light on Poland's seemingly pro-banderite stance, but not justify it in any way.

A deteriorating humanitarian situation amid the hardship of an approaching winter in east Ukraine is giving the Ukrainian national government an opening to turn the local population against Russian-backed separatists.

The government of Ukraine is restoring pensions, salaries and other government services in areas it recaptured from separatists last summer, while cutting off regions still under separatist control, Col. Oleksiy Nozdrachov, Ukraine's chief of military and civilian cooperation in the Donbass region, told USA TODAY.

The result of that hardball tactic: a rise in suffering in separatist-held areas that has turned people against the rebels, as the national government had hoped. Nozdrachov said during a visit to Washington that there have been protests against rebel leaders in a number of cities, and separatist militias were expelled from at least one village.

Residents in those areas "have dialogue with colleagues and relatives in other areas of Ukraine," Nozdrachov said. "They see the old territories liberated by Ukrainian forces now are coming back under normal life."

Workers in those areas are receiving salaries and pensions, stores are full of goods, and there are no armed gangs on the streets, he said. "This shows the population in occupied territory that the situation under the Ukrainian government is much, much better."

The national government has cut off the separatist economy from Ukraine's financial system, government subsidies and health and educational benefits to "apply economic pressure against the rebels and incite locals to rebel," said Janusz Bugajski, an analyst at the Center for European Policy Analysis, a Washington think tank.

I see a lot of angry Russians in this thread.

Did you prayed for Putin's blessing today?

It wasn't about unarmed prisoners, but about deserters.
Enacted by Djugashivi/Stalin - a Georgian.
And now this practice is encated by law in modern Ukraine.
PoWs in USSR got better rations than the Soviet citizens. Get your history strait - historical accuracy is not optional thing to serve your needs.

So I´m a Russian now ? Okay, so be it,  I don´t really have any objection  

A "federal subject"? Good one

This is exactly how Russians feel about these republics, that were formed in the lands of their former Union "our subjects, our land" and Putin in his imperial vision would gladly bring these strays back in his arms.

I see a lot of angry Russians in this thread. You shouldn't be ashamed, you have such a beautiful history of shooting unarmed prisoners in the back of the head (1940), just like ISIS is doing now.