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Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 75. (Read 734725 times)

legendary
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February 06, 2015, 07:46:29 AM
These east Ukrainian regions played a very important role in the Soviet industrial setup, especially the armaments industry and continued to do so for the Russians after the Soviet Union dissolved. Like the Crimea, this is simply too important for Russian national security to let fall to vassals of U.S./NATO. The western mob knows this very well and will accept it in due course. The Ukrainian regime seems resigned to this as well. Their military actions have been mostly of a punitive nature and for the sake of appearance. And now their military force is probably just about done. The Russians and their allies in those new republics have played this whole affair masterfully as was to be expected of expert strategists, and will have a very strong position in the coming negotiations.

Let's not forget that "these east Ukrainian regions" were not Ukrainian in the first place until the Soviet Union... Cool
hero member
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February 06, 2015, 07:42:55 AM
These east Ukrainian regions played a very important role in the Soviet industrial setup, especially the armaments industry and continued to do so for the Russians after the Soviet Union dissolved. Like the Crimea, this is simply too important for Russian national security to let fall to vassals of U.S./NATO. The western mob knows this very well and will accept it in due course. The Ukrainian regime seems resigned to this as well. Their military actions have been mostly of a punitive nature and for the sake of appearance. And now their military force is probably just about done. The Russians and their allies in those new republics have played this whole affair masterfully as was to be expected of expert strategists, and will have a very strong position in the coming negotiations.


legendary
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February 06, 2015, 06:31:47 AM
I don't think Ukraine military will be allowed out. It's for civilians only. Could be wrong though. Expect to possibly see a false flag tomorrow.

Actually, you are. The Ukrainian military is allowed to exit the Debaltsevo pocket as long as they are leaving out armless. AFAIK, this is the only requirement... Cool
You've got it wrong... It was the weapons delivery operation. Cheesy
legendary
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February 06, 2015, 04:55:31 AM
I don't think Ukraine military will be allowed out. It's for civilians only. Could be wrong though. Expect to possibly see a false flag tomorrow.

Actually, you are. The Ukrainian military is allowed to exit the Debaltsevo pocket as long as they are leaving out armless. AFAIK, this is the only requirement... Cool
legendary
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February 06, 2015, 02:21:00 AM
I wouldn't think that it's somehow reoated to Ukraine. It happens on the episodic basis and mostly for those who have the officer ranks.

yea, i didnt imply it was directly linked to ukraine, although this conflict seems likely to escalate towards a more global war now.  Sad
but eh, its i guess time we get it over with already.. end this BS!

edit: its not like russia is ever going to be defeated. Napoleon couldnt, Hitler couldnt.. OTOH US got defeated by vietkongs XDD
legendary
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February 06, 2015, 02:16:54 AM
I wouldn't think that it's somehow reoated to Ukraine. It happens on the episodic basis and mostly for those who have the officer ranks.
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February 06, 2015, 12:07:22 AM




I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


The Ukies are being routed in Debaltcevo... the bankrupt WEstern pseudo-powers are so desperate Merkel & Hollande had to swallow their pride and plead their case to Moscow... I bet they were ordered by the bankrupt US .... just the fact that the WEstern propaganda press noisily claimed that they denied asking the permission of the US is PROOF they were ordered by the US because these clowns usually do the OPPOSITE of their propaganda.... Another proof is the usual posture of the US to THREAT that it will send lethal weapons when lethal weapons & their mercenaries have been confirmed sent long ago to  the UKies...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

The bankrupt villains are really being clobbered now... it's really fun watching them pretend they can still spin their way out of being comedians here... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Putin will have stomach ache laughing when Merkel & Hollande finally arrives in Moscow on Friday. I know he's famous for being able to keep a straight face but he will have a hard time controlling himself not to burst into guffaws...

I mysef can't control myself laughing

 Cheesy
legendary
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February 05, 2015, 11:53:02 PM
I don't think Ukraine military will be allowed out. It's for civilians only. Could be wrong though. Expect to possibly see a false flag tomorrow.

The Ukrainian army is threatening to use the remaining civilians trapped in Debeltsevo as human shield. They will ask for a safe passage to Nizhny Lozovoye and further to Svetlodarsk, in exchange for releasing the hostages safely.

I don't think the militia can ignore such demands, as many of the members are either from Debaltsevo themselves, or are having relatives there.
legendary
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February 05, 2015, 11:43:03 PM
I don't think Ukraine military will be allowed out. It's for civilians only. Could be wrong though. Expect to possibly see a false flag tomorrow.

Either way the militia get debaltsevo.
legendary
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February 05, 2015, 10:52:06 PM
Seems like another ceasefire agreement is about to be signed. Poroshenko has to save thousands of soldiers who are trapped in Debaltsevo. And Zakharchenko can't afford any more deaths from his militia.
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February 05, 2015, 05:03:57 PM
Human rights "protector" Vasilieva, or how to trade the prisoners of war
Vasilieva looks like complete idiot
I don't understand why nobody did nothing with her
legendary
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February 05, 2015, 04:57:10 PM
Donetsk was under constant artillery fire today. No pauses. 8 civilians killed and 30 wounded over the last 24 hours. 400 people left without gas.
A region of the town was shelled using the forbidden phosphorous bombs, destroying a bus depo.
Several homes completely destroyed.

Photogallery from destruction of Donetsk by Kerry-backed Kiev-Nazis:
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/775611





A convoy of cars with OCSE observers came under mortar fire from North-Western direction when they left Lugansk. The observers had to quickly turn back and head to Lugansk to avoid being killed.

http://ria.ru/world/20150205/1046167596.html



Ukrainian parliament passes law allowing army deserters to be shot
http://rt.com/news/229739-ukraine-army-shoot-defectors/
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Ukraine’s parliament voted on Thursday with 260 MPs in favor - only 226 votes were needed to pass the law. The new article 22(1) added to the charter regulating service in the armed forces of Ukraine states that commanders “have the right to personally use physical force, special means, and weapons when in combat” against soldiers who commit “criminal acts.”

Under criminal acts the law lists “disobedience, resistance or threat to use force against the commander, voluntary abandonment of military positions and certain locations of military units in areas of combat missions.”





Possible False Flag Alert!

Kiev agreed to evacuation of civilians from Debaltsevo (all the while shelling civilians in Donetsk - 8 killed today)
The evacuation will start tomorrow 6th of January at 11 am, in civilian buses. All who want to leave, can leave in either of two directions.
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/775798
This complacency from Kiev is uncharacteristic.
Add to that a visit from the US handlers - each such prior visit signalled a murderous act of exceptional brutality from Kiev.
And add the following intelligence report:

DNR has evidence that Kiev prepares a provocation in Debaltsevo, planning to hit with artillery a bus, evacuating civilians from the town. Then present the shooting as coming from DNR, spread it in MSM and present it during the coming Munchen convention so as to classify the republic as a terrorist organisation. The information was collected from interrogation of an officer, Alexander Marchenko, of 25th battalion, who surrendered to DNR on the 2nd of February.
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1744916
legendary
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February 04, 2015, 10:41:19 PM
Latest situation map from the Debaltsevo pocket. The lower half of the pocket appears to be completely cut-off from the main Kiev territory. Even the Northern half is under threat.

http://voicesevas.ru/maps/9434-karta-boevyh-deystviy-v-rayone-debalcevo-za-3-fevralya-ot-dragon-first-1.html
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February 04, 2015, 09:25:56 PM
Three comments:

1) This poll doesn't make any sense - cleansing of speaking Russian? Cleansing of Russian speaking people?

2) The choices aren't collectively exhaustive, clearly the OP only sees one answer as the right answer

3) The number of responses (in the thousands) may indicate how many people from Russia or that region read visit this forum, which is REALLY cool
legendary
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February 04, 2015, 04:57:16 PM
Real Russian "cyborg"... Cool

legendary
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February 04, 2015, 04:53:45 PM
Human rights "protector" Vasilieva, or how to trade the prisoners of war:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq8yUFrGjJ4
legendary
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February 04, 2015, 04:15:21 PM
Hospital shelled in Ukraine's rebel Donetsk, multiple casualties reported
http://rt.com/news/229195-shell-hits-hospital-donetsk/

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A hospital in the rebel stronghold of Donetsk in eastern Ukraine was hit by artillery shelling, local authorities said. One person has been confirmed killed, with initial reports of over 15 feared dead.

“There are multiple casualties at the hospital. A preliminary count says more than 15 people were killed,” local emergency services told Interfax.

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The midday barrage also damaged a residential building nearby and a high-voltage power line, the city council said. The entire neighborhood is without power.

RT correspondent Roman Kosarev was one of the first journalists to arrive at the scene.





OCSE has registered that Donbass was shelled using cluster bombs. On the 27th of January Lugansk was shelled using 300mm cluster munitions:
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/02/04/osce/



DNR has evidence that Kiev prepares a provocation in Debaltsevo, planning to hit with artillery a bus, evacuating civilians from the town. Then present the shooting as coming from DNR, spread it in MSM and present it during the coming Munchen convention so as to classify the republic as a terrorist organisation. The information was collected from interrogation of an officer, Alexander Marchenko, of 25th battalion, who surrendered to DNR on the 2nd of February.
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1744916
legendary
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February 04, 2015, 02:32:30 PM
Ukrainian ambassador to  Italy is outraged over the Italians' audaciousness to commemorate the victims of the 2 of May 2014 massacre in Odessa, by calling a square in the town of Ceriano Laghetto for the "Square of Odessa Martyrs". The name combines commemoration of two massacres, that of 2014 and that of 1941, both by Nazis.

http://lenta.ru/news/2015/02/04/ambassador_rage/



Fracing gives first results. There was an earthquake in Zaporozh'je, magnitude 4.6. The area is not seismically active, but fracing was conducted previously by Kolomojskij's part-owned British company JKX Oil & Gas

http://ria.ru/radio_brief/20150204/1045857952.html



And some humour. Ukraine wants to impose total sanctioning of Russia, prohibiting everything to do with Russia and thus cutting off the last of Ukraine's meage income.

http://russian.rt.com/article/72328

Russophobia has reached the rabid proportions.



Blablablabla on 3 links for your work job day ?
legendary
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February 04, 2015, 02:31:43 PM
Black Market in Ukrainian Currency Masks True Extent of Decline; Banks Impose 30% Foreign Exchange Fee; Freely Floating Hryvnia Announced

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Here's a Ukrainian source that claims the Hryvnia Will Float on February 5 but it is not an official document.

Banks Initiate 30% Currency Exchange Transaction Fee

While waiting for the free float to occur, banks needed to do something to halt the spread of debit card cash transactions at the alleged official rate.

This was the solution: Banks Impose a 30% Foreign Exchange Fee.

The article notes that in the border towns in the Ternopil region, Lviv, and Transcarpathia, that people had been running to the nearest ATM in Romania or Poland to remove currency, at the official rate.

Customers used gold class preferential commissions for ATM transactions buying dollars for 16 Hryvnias, then selling the dollars at the black market rate that is as high as 21.5 Hryvnias to the dollar.

Ukrainian banks were getting killed on debit card and other exchange transactions, thus the support for a free-floating Hryvnia.

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2015/02/black-market-in-ukrainian-currency.html#Bi0yRMrhl4CwXSQE.99

Good time for spreading bitcoins. No banks, no fees, no queues and your btc tomorrow will worth about the same as today Smiley.


And ... Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssss no russian corruption ............................. let it go !
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