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Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 77. (Read 734937 times)

legendary
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February 01, 2015, 05:17:32 PM
Yep, great flowchart!

News:

The Lenin quarter of Donetsk was shelled today. 4 more civilians have been killed.

DPR militias nip attempted breakthrough of two convoys with munitions towards Debaltsevo
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/774755

Russia’s Ren-TV says it has proof of EU mercenaries’ fighting on Kiev’s side
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/774752

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According to the Dobrov v Efire programme to be aired on Sunday night, citizens of Sweden, Poland, Great Britain and Italy are fighting on the side of Kiev

OSCE confirms Ukrainian customs officers inspected Russian humanitarian convoy
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/774750

Hollande, Merkel, Poroshenko call for immediate ceasefire in Ukraine
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/774758

So, what stops Poroshenko/Valtsman from giving the appropriate orders to put an end to killings? Ah, he's not really a president of Ukraine, and Biden didn't give permission...
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February 01, 2015, 03:42:06 PM
This is great! It is exactly the truth!
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February 01, 2015, 03:31:26 PM
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February 01, 2015, 03:19:36 PM
Volkssturm news



Russia was invaded by one MILLION Ukrainian men of military age, hiding from Poroshenko - official data

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/01/russia-was-invaded-by-one-million.html
legendary
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February 01, 2015, 02:59:15 PM

And there was a meeting in Minsk today. No results to speak of:

Denis Pushilin: DPR and LPR are ready to abide by the Minsk memorandum
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/774688


Really i like how ITAR-TASS propashit ... is hiding real information ...

Is Russia will tell OSCE are liars ?? LoL

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Unfortunately, the signatories of these documents from Donetsk and Luhansk did not participate, although they had been personally invited by the Trilateral Contract Group.
Their representatives who were present were not in a position to discuss the proposal put forward by the TCG. In fact, they were not even prepared to discuss implementation of a ceasefire and withdrawal of heavy weapons. Instead, they called for revision of the Protocol and Memorandum. The meeting was adjourned.

Where not in position to discuss.... why they were there Huh LoL They just play the "Win Time" game.... during this time more weapons / troup are coming from Russia ....

http://www.osce.org/cio/138331

Once again they are pathetic ....


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=732_1422806364

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=846_1422722697

And the most funny ... story ... that show how Poutine has no limit in the lie !

http://www.rfi.fr/europe/20150130-hautre-trahison-mere-enfants-russie-troupes-militaires-ukraine-ambassade/

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Davidova Svetlana was remanded to the Moscow Lefortovo prison. This mother is accused of high treason for having called the Embassy of Ukraine and having transmitted information. Davidova Svetlana was arrested on January 21 at his home, 300 km from Moscow.

She is a lady of 36 years, mother of seven, probably a little noisy because her husband said that when he saw the police at his door, he thought that the neighbors had complained. But behind the local policeman, there was an investigator of the FSB, the Russian intelligence services. He stopped Mrs. Davidova for high treason, did transfer to the Moscow Lefortovo high-security prison, and searched the house.

Davidova Svetlana, convinced pacifist

According to her husband, Mrs. Davidova is a pacifist, opposed to the conflict in Ukraine. In April 2014, she would have called the Embassy of Ukraine to prevent the military base Viazma next to her home was empty, his soldiers have been deployed, according to her, Ukraine. The husband, told a local radio station, reports:

"She had just heard a soldier talking on the phone in transit. And as she was against the war with Ukraine, it provided information to the Ukrainian embassy. Svetala could say nothing secret, since Russian forces do not participate officially in the conflict. Simply, it was an emotional gesture of pity; she did not want to harm Russia. »

A defense to refine

The lawyer assigned to defend this mother did not really defend his client, it is the least we can say. "The accusations are completely unfounded, he said, there was information that the investigation will study and we expect the advice of experts in top secret. »

Mrs. Davidova risk 20 years in prison, and after her husband, the investigators threatened to withdraw their seven children if he himself does not cooperate. Members of the Presidential Council for Human Rights and some members decided to send a request for an explanation to the general prosecutor and the FSB.

The security of the state involved?

A lawyer specializing in such cases says high treason for the transmission of information whose disclosure would threaten the security of the State. If that is the case here, it means that there is actually Russian troops in Ukraine or Russia is at war with Ukraine.

Dmitry Gudkov MP is therefore surprised that we judge someone for information, according to the Ministry of Defence, are only fantasies of Ukrainian journalists. And adds that he must then accuse of treason anyone suggest the presence of Russian military or Russian weapons in Ukraine.


Ho yes ... why ?? As there is no soldier in Ukraina .... hahahaha LoL
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February 01, 2015, 02:46:58 PM
The significance of the Donbas

The Donbas is Ukraine's industrial heartland. But its coal-based economy is a heavily-subsidized millstone for Ukraine, not a powerhouse, no matter how important its arms exports might be to the Russian military.

Date 15.04.2014

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Steel for Russian tanks

Besides these symbolic justifications, there is one very tangible reason: Numerous companies in eastern Ukraine provide important raw materials and products to Russia - especially for the Russian space and defense industries.
The western world barely noticed the news in March that the transitional government in Kyiv was suspending military cooperation with Russia. But that didn't make it any less explosive. Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, who is also responsible for the defense industry, spoke up immediately, saying Russia had to make a greater effort to become independent from foreign technology and supplies.
But that might not be so easy: Twelve types of Russian intercontinental ballistic missiles, along with spare parts and maintenance, come from the eastern Ukrainian city of Dnipropetrovsk alone. In the Donbas, a special steel is produced for the tanks of the Russian armed forces, and most Russian combat helicopters fly with engines from Zaporizhia.

Who depends on whom?

Even so, eastern Ukrainian companies are much more dependent on demand from Russia, said Andreas Umland of the Mohyla Academy in Kyiv. They fear that Russia could close off its market. "That would be a problem, because the products - systems and equipment - are made specially for the Russian market and cannot be sold so readily on other markets," Umland told DW.

Even if parts of the industry are dependent on subsidies, the eastern Ukrainian export products represent an important source of income for the government in Kyiv. This is all the more important as Ukraine is virtually bankrupt - and therefore increasingly dependent on international donors. "If separatist movements succeed, Kyiv would completely collapse in the risk assessment of the money markets because the country would lose so many resources," Ukraine expert Ewald Böhlke said.

http://www.dw.de/the-significance-of-the-donbas/a-17567049
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As I understand it occupying this wedge last summer was an attempt to disrupt communications between the two new republics there. But unfortunately for the Ukrainians the more worse than useless political and military advice they´ve gotten from the west the faster they´ve swirled down the crapper. So, the position had become untenable a while ago and the only sensible thing to do was to withdraw. I´m sure the same useless crap told them to hang on.
legendary
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Yes they are completely fucked. It will be interesting to see how the Kiev regime responds, or if they will even remain in power after yet another military disaster.

Turns out the Novorussians are total badasses. Who knew?
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Amazing. Talk about incompetent command. I guess those nazi buggers don´t have any Rommel or Manstein.

The weather there is perfect, for the besiegers that is, temperature just above zero centigrade and fog covers the area, making airborne support or attacks impossible. And a rain storm is coming up. The roads will be mud.

it´s open fields mostly, little cover. The pocket will be wiped out by artillery fire.





legendary
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still no russian... these poor local miners... do not know where they lives.... lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422579428&x-yt-cl=85114404&v=fcwpNqz6RuQ



legendary
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Yes, and the road to Artemovsk is under the republican artillery coverage as of today, making Debaltsevo a true cauldron.



Civilian casualties in Donetsk today: 2 killed and 7 wounded.
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/774677

Ukrainian mobile mortar groups are suspected (one was captured today)



The 13th humanitarian aid column from Russia reached Lugansk today, accompanied by OCSE observers.



And there was a meeting in Minsk today. No results to speak of:

Denis Pushilin: DPR and LPR are ready to abide by the Minsk memorandum
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/774688

Deinego: Donetsk, Lugansk republics have data Kiev getting ready for new offensive
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/774693
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So, they got caught in this salient between DPR and LPR territories, right ?  Grin

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NATO to deploy extra girlie-troops in 6 E. European member states

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The additional NATO troops would be posted to the three Baltic states, Romania, Bulgaria and Poland, NATO's Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said Friday. Each unit would consist of 40 to 50 troops comprised in roughly equal parts of soldiers from the host nation and those from other NATO members Reuters reported, citing an alliance diplomat. READ MORE: NATO Poland base may be prepared for blitz against Russia The units would be involved in organizing NATO exercises in corresponding countries. They will also perform command and control functions for the future European NATO force, which is to be created over the year. The force, according to the alliance, would respond to a crisis situation within two days, with the assumption that it would counter an attack from Russia. "It is completely within all our international obligations and what we are doing is defensive and it is proportionate," Stoltenberg said, explaining why Moscow shouldn’t see the deployment as provocative. The force is expected to be officially presented after defense ministers form the 28-member military bloc been on Thursday next week. The ministers would decide on which countries would provide the several thousand troops for the force. READ MORE: NATO planning 'rapid-deployment force' of 10,000 troops to counter Russia The alliance has significantly boosted its presence in Eastern Europe last year, citing a growing threat from Russia

Sounds like a YAWN.

Iraqi military after a decade of US/NATO girlie training = worthless

Afghan military after a decade of US/NATO girlie training = worthless

6 E. European member states military after suffering the same = worthless
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Really ? Well, it´s pretty good anyway.
legendary
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"When the word comes ‘it’s time’"--Zakharchenko's geopolitical analysis

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/01/when-word-comes-its-time-zakharchenkos.html

Correction. The above was incorrectly attributed to Zaharchenko. However, it does not negate what is written in the article.
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Speaking of redrawing borders...Europe 1914 at the onset of World War 1


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legendary
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"When the word comes ‘it’s time’"--Zakharchenko's geopolitical analysis

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/01/when-word-comes-its-time-zakharchenkos.html

It is important to remember that Zaharchenko is a historian by trade, so he has a good background for doing such analysis.



A very strong song, wake up call, if only it will be heeded.

Wake Up, the Soldier of Ukraine!
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/01/29/wake-up-the-soldier-of-ukraine/

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This is a video with a very poignant new song by the band called “Alexander Matrosov,” entitled: “To the Soldier of Ukraine.”

The video shows the truth of the new ‘order’ in Ukraine, imposed by Kiev and the West. It is powerful, at times very disturbing, and must be seen to know the truth. I thought it was so important that I decided to translate the whole thing.


Lyrics – English translation:

...

The only country that cares about preserving the lives of Ukrainians is Russia:

Ukraine itself doesn’t give a damn about their people. The Kiev junta is sending its young soldiers to die. The Kiev ministry of defence has purchased a plot of 80 hectares, where they are actively digging graves for their soldiers. This plot is enough to bury 160,000 people. These gruesome images went viral around the net. An image of such dug-out graves is included in the above video.

...

In fact, in addition to being a US lapdog, Poland is pursuing its own interests. Poland is trying to recreate its failed medieval empire, called Rech Pospolita. While Ukraine is falling apart and everyone is looking the other way, Poland hopes to bite off as big of a chunk of Ukraine as they possibly can. This is why they need to keep everyone’s eyes on Russia, blaming Russia for all mortal sins and keeping Russia fending off attacks.

Other countries that are licking their lips at juicy pieces of Ukraine territory are Romania and Lithuania. As a diversion, they need Russia to be under attack all the time for their plan to work.

Therefore, Ukrainian soldiers, simple people of Ukraine who think that patriotism equals being anti-Russian, and all those who are caught in the web of propaganda, are helping vultures ready to tear apart what’s left of their country.

These silly people don’t understand that only Russia can guarantee the integrity, free cultural development of Ukraine and Ukrainian culture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtGBswf7iVY
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Ah, I get it. The guy doesn´t realize that blogs often republish news stories. He just needs more time to check out the internet.
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