If he didn't respond and the U.S. atty wanted the material from forum, he'd get it. Even if it means seizing forum servers to get the data (if the court order was to be ignored).
Not responding makes no sense. Posts about doing otherwise are likely by underage members of forun who don't yet understand consequences.
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Nah, he's in the midwest.
Was'nt theymos based in Europe? If so then he could reply the e-mail with pseudorandom string of bad words and not give the required data. And destroy properly encrypt the requested data forever.
I have personal experience by not giving data from one of webpages around the time I was helping to improve it. The webpage owner was good guy to stand his ground and finally after more than 6 months the counterintelligence agency gave up. The standoff caused some resonance in society here but the story was quickly replaced by Kardashians buttocks. Modern ZOG controlled media...
I have personal experience by not giving data from one of webpages around the time I was helping to improve it. The webpage owner was good guy to stand his ground and finally after more than 6 months the counterintelligence agency gave up. The standoff caused some resonance in society here but the story was quickly replaced by Kardashians buttocks. Modern ZOG controlled media...
This is not very surprising/interesting, but I thought I'd mention that I received a subpoena for information related to Ross Ulbricht's alleged forum account altoid. I mostly just compiled some publicly-available information. The only non-public data I had to include were some deleted posts in the heroin store topic that were not written by DPR and probably won't be useful in the case.
You might be surprised to learn that this is the first subpoena I've received for the forum.
You might be surprised to learn that this is the first subpoena I've received for the forum.
how many NSA letters have you received?
Nice to see how you rolled over and took it up the ass from the US Attorney. Good job!
I speculate that you are against him complying with subpeonas because you do not want your identity potentially revealed or evidence against you revealed to law enforcement as you have stolen money from others on here before
This is not very surprising/interesting, but I thought I'd mention that I received a subpoena for information related to Ross Ulbricht's alleged forum account altoid. I mostly just compiled some publicly-available information. The only non-public data I had to include were some deleted posts in the heroin store topic that were not written by DPR and probably won't be useful in the case.
You might be surprised to learn that this is the first subpoena I've received for the forum.
You might be surprised to learn that this is the first subpoena I've received for the forum.
how many NSA letters have you received?
Nice to see how you rolled over and took it up the ass from the US Attorney. Good job!
Do you fancy taking on the US Government for no apparent reason in a non personal battle which doesn't impact you at all? No? Okay then.
theymos is a freakin pussy and helping to put ulbricht in jail is what I'm saying.
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Why wouldn't it be (unless it specifically stated)? DPR is the one under investigation not everyone else.
But if that was the case then exchanges and gambling sites would likely also be disallowed. You can just as easily mix your coins by sending to a gambling site then launder your funds through an exchange (many of which are already illegal and against US laws for not complying with AML laws and other such restrictions etc). This is the problem with not clarifying as people are worrying and being paranoid and trying to put two and two together.
I have a weird feeling that wants me to believe that there could be a connection between this and theymos not accepting ads from bitmixer. Maybe after receiving a subpoena he's afraid to sell advertisment space to any website that could be considered a money launderer in any way. Because we all know that this is one of the main reasons people use bitcoin mixers and tumblers aside of anonimity.
But if that was the case then exchanges and gambling sites would likely also be disallowed. You can just as easily mix your coins by sending to a gambling site then launder your funds through an exchange (many of which are already illegal and against US laws for not complying with AML laws and other such restrictions etc). This is the problem with not clarifying as people are worrying and being paranoid and trying to put two and two together.
I won't post my response because it contains deleted posts which should remain private if at all possible. Probably my response will end up as part of public record, but I'm not going to speed up the process or make it easier for people to find. I already PMed the users affected by this.
Just curious, but is PMing users affected by this acceptable?
Wouldn't it be considered as tipping off people under investigation?
I have a weird feeling that wants me to believe that there could be a connection between this and theymos not accepting ads from bitmixer. Maybe after receiving a subpoena he's afraid to sell advertisment space to any website that could be considered a money launderer in any way. Because we all know that this is one of the main reasons people use bitcoin mixers and tumblers aside of anonimity.
This is not very surprising/interesting, but I thought I'd mention that I received a subpoena for information related to Ross Ulbricht's alleged forum account altoid. I mostly just compiled some publicly-available information. The only non-public data I had to include were some deleted posts in the heroin store topic that were not written by DPR and probably won't be useful in the case.
You might be surprised to learn that this is the first subpoena I've received for the forum.
You might be surprised to learn that this is the first subpoena I've received for the forum.
how many NSA letters have you received?
Nice to see how you rolled over and took it up the ass from the US Attorney. Good job!
Do you fancy taking on the US Government for no apparent reason in a non personal battle which doesn't impact you at all? No? Okay then.
This is not very surprising/interesting, but I thought I'd mention that I received a subpoena for information related to Ross Ulbricht's alleged forum account altoid. I mostly just compiled some publicly-available information. The only non-public data I had to include were some deleted posts in the heroin store topic that were not written by DPR and probably won't be useful in the case.
You might be surprised to learn that this is the first subpoena I've received for the forum.
You might be surprised to learn that this is the first subpoena I've received for the forum.
how many NSA letters have you received?
Nice to see how you rolled over and took it up the ass from the US Attorney. Good job!
Well Shrem just got 2 years in prison.
https://bitcointalk.org/docs/ulbricht.pdf
I won't post my response because it contains deleted posts which should remain private if at all possible. Probably my response will end up as part of public record, but I'm not going to speed up the process or make it easier for people to find. I already PMed the users affected by this.
This is the first government request/inquiry I've received related to Ulbricht's case. I have received a few other inquiries for other cases.
I won't post my response because it contains deleted posts which should remain private if at all possible. Probably my response will end up as part of public record, but I'm not going to speed up the process or make it easier for people to find. I already PMed the users affected by this.
Maybe this is the first time Theymos experienced a formal subpoena, but I have trouble believing that this is the first time he experienced a law enforcement inquiry.
This is the first government request/inquiry I've received related to Ulbricht's case. I have received a few other inquiries for other cases.
Is it possible, FBI are buying accounts to avoid a subpoena? It would not surprise me at all.
You don't need to be registered to see posts. The SEC case against Pirate involved forum posts, they had printouts of his thread from what I recall reading from the testimony, they would reference posts and ask if it was his post.
So in case anyone doesn't already know, and it seems like a lot do not, anything you do not own you do not have control of. If you sign-up to a forum, that forum most likely keeps everything. What good business doesn't? People know that if you put something into google's system, they have it, but don't realize it happens everywhere? get off the internet.
Maybe for now, but the right to be forgotten is gaining legal ground http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten
You forget that ANYTHING put on the internet lives forever. Right to be forgotten is a joke. The only time it could ever hope to work is when the entire internet is totally controlled, and that will never happen until someone takes it down and it needs to be rebuilt. Remember kids, the entire internet can be removed by getting to the correct 8 servers at one time and there are a few wandering around with a code to do it, but they built it and don't want to ruin it.
Was the allegation of him attempting to hire a hitman ever substantiated?
No!
Additionally to be fair, no case has been heard yet and no evidence/testimony has actually been presented in court.
Was the allegation of him attempting to hire a hitman ever substantiated?
No!
So in case anyone doesn't already know, and it seems like a lot do not, anything you do not own you do not have control of. If you sign-up to a forum, that forum most likely keeps everything. What good business doesn't? People know that if you put something into google's system, they have it, but don't realize it happens everywhere? get off the internet.
Maybe for now, but the right to be forgotten is gaining legal ground http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten
So in case anyone doesn't already know, and it seems like a lot do not, anything you do not own you do not have control of. If you sign-up to a forum, that forum most likely keeps everything. What good business doesn't? People know that if you put something into google's system, they have it, but don't realize it happens everywhere? get off the internet.
I love the wording "WE COMMAND YOU" - so pushy. They should just ask nicely and not sound like such dicks about it.
The stuff that they are asking you to sign off as true should be reviewed by a lawyer before you sign it. It's not really part of the request....it's like a subpoena plus your testimony...be careful, they are asking more of you than just to produce info.
Luckily I've used PGP when I needed to.
Doesn't anyone worth their salt use PGP for sensitive information anyway? Why would you trust your personal security to anyone but yourself?
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