Topic: DragonMint T1 16TH/S halongmining.com - page 34. (Read 87857 times)

What is the wattage draw using the Model:HSTNS-PR16 2450w PSU you promoted?

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At numnutz2009

To make the case correctly.  don't  quote me  without this info below

I always said wait till I get mine and test them.

So now that I tested them

decide if you want to order a 13.9 th to 14.1 th that uses about 1325 watts

on under clock  with the stock myrig psu.

it is not loud on efficient setting.

to set s-9 fans your way voids warranty.

and no s-9 does 0.095 on an apw3 or for that matter on a myrig psu.

To all those that order before I did tests that is on them.

What do I think it is worth

more then 1228  less then 2000

to be more clear

more the 1450
less then 1850

I had these concerns too. So far T1 looks over hyped and under delivered feels like that even more especially after the way higher prices. The price that it was launched at was reasonable for these specs

im still not understanding how these are better than the s9's....

t1 cons:

1. pool restriction (less options)
2. hashes out of spec based on the many posts being provided by folks
3. has to be underclocked to reach the watts per th/s numbers they bragged about and even that needs more testing
4. the biggest thing is THE HASHRATE ISNT THE ACTUAL BASE HASHRATE OF THE MINER!. the antminer s9's base hashrate from the factory is 13-14th/s (depending on the model) the base hashrate of the t1 is 12-12.8th/s from the factory. how can u folks overlook this asicboost info like that?? what happens if bitmain or another user posts a firmware allowing asicboost on the s9?? even then i would not consider the hashrate of the device being anything except the base stock hashrate. the boosted numbers can be shared as well but the base numbers should be posted first and halong didnt tell any of u this info....they basically stuck u with this miner that they claimed was 16th/s when really its not that speed at all....even with asicboost it struggles to hit those numbers.
5. they overcharged for the miner and under delivered
6. locked to one coin and one coin only....even if u dont like ppc and bch they r viable options that are available to folks but not to folks with t1's because they require certain pools to be used.

t2 pros:

1. competition for other miner manufacturers........but not really since they charged $1400 more for less hardware lol.


not to sound rude but i must ask this bluntly...r u sayin these r a little better than s9's simply because you havent been charged for the hardware?? I can see that bein the case and even i wouldnt worry about the specs of the machine as much if i had miners i wasnt charged for but based on the facts here they dont seem to be better than the s9. with the s9 they promise specs and u get those specs. thats one of the pros to those miners. i would love miner options but if im going to upgrade goin on 2 year old hardware with new hardware y would i want somethin that doesnt even out perform what i already have and costs more??

also to clear a few things up about the s9:

1. the fan speed is controllable. this applies to both the non auto tuned miners and the auto tuned ones. there is a hardware change and a software change that can be done to achieve this.
2. the freq is controllable. sure u cant control the freq for each board by itself but if u want to run at 400-650 thats totally changeable.

im not sayin s9's arent without their faults but bitmain hasnt given me ne free miners and neither has halong so this is info based on what im seein and what i have experienced first hand with my own miners.

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Dang.......just when I thought Canaan was gonna be king of efficiency........this happens.

Oh well, if they do decide to drop the price to ~1.5k I will definitely get a rack of them

Thanks for putting this together Philip.  It took a while to get the miners but seems well worth it.  

And good work -ck!  This couldn't have been easy.

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Did not think of that.  Thank you

You know you can retune it if the PSU delivers a different voltage. Just push the slider to efficient mode and it will tune it again.

Turns out the Corsair sagged to 11.94 volts which dropped hash to 13.8

I now hooked up the plat 2400 watt delta

It does 1305 watts and volts are 12.41

I get 13.85 hash.

well  it seems to now do 14.2 or 14.3 th

at 1325 watts maybe less with the titanium ax1500i corsair.

it is quieter then the s-9 quite a bit and can run in a garage.

so the high end s-9 is 1288  the s-9 will do 13.9 is loud can not be adjusted and uses 100 extra watts maybe 120 extra watts.

So more hash
less power
quieter
adjustable

all make it worth more the 1288 the 14.0 s-9 with no psu price.

I think they sold these  for 1350 on black friday ? can someone confirm that?

They should under 2k  and moq of 2.

As these are better for a home miner then the s-9.

Buysolar is coming back  in 4 days from china we will be talking about the avalon 841.

The firmware is pretty good now  we will see what  we like better the 841 or the t1

s-9  drops down to second most likely third place.

so bitmain sells them cheap to hurt competitors.

lots of blood to come in crypto world.


Edit

found a corsair Ax1500i

hooked it up and  we are doing 1290 watts

that is on  240 volts 236 to be exact

dc to the unit is 11.94

my rig feeds 12.04  but was pulling 1325 watts

1290 watts is really really   good.  But the volts at 11.94  may cost some hash.

once you power off you need to wait a while for hash rate to settle in

1290/14200 = 0.090845

1480/16000 = 0.09250

so on low with a titanium psu it is better then spec.

need to wait to be sure about this.

They will probably lower price for it to make sense. Problem is once they lower, competitor will probably do so. And looking at the price of an L3+ now, I think there can be alot of fight here. U may wanna not go all in at once and instead, time your purchases in batches to get a good average buying price.

Just my 2 cents.

What price and shipping speed, with the new firmware, do you expect this to be even with competitors? Not that you would get such...just what would be 'comfortable' now?

(assuming, they don't lower their prices yet again, which they seem to do weekly!)

I have no idea what price allows them a profit.

But a moq of 2.  Would help a lot.

The corsairs are due on Monday my guess is under 1295 watts since it is a titanium

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This is wonderful news! Now they need to drop their pricing and shipping times to get us small guys up to speed.

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Glad you like it. The efficient mode is the only way I can run them at home with domestic levels of power available and tolerable noise levels from the garage. It's both the most efficient and easiest to handle setting (in all meanings.) The performance mode has a great hashrate as Dimaze is pointing out but it's at the top of what PSUs can handle and only for industrial locations, though I believe it's only as loud as an S9 (I've never had an S9.) I optimised the fan control as well which is why the levels are as tolerable as can be without temperature getting out of control. The fanspeed will run very low speed in ultra cold environments; these chips prefer to run in an optimal temperature range so that is the main thing the fanspeed is designed to defend.

Seems it is on spec after all. Maybe can test the 15-16th range too.

Nice vid and i guess u are not the neat type lol.

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doing the low power setting

gets 13.8th to 14.1 th at 1326 watts

here is a youtube video https://youtu.be/K_ksMluPUZI


this is subject to change  but it means

1326/13800

0.0961 watts a gh = king of efficiency.

this is improving  not getting worse  hash has drifted up  to 14.5  and still 1326 watts

1326/14500

now 0.0914 watts  the king  if it holds on




and a corsair 1500 watt

a evga 1600 g2 p2 or t2 will do this unit


Will do testing tomorrow with a cosair Ax1500i  at 120 volts  and at 240 volts.

So the new firmware rocks.

nice I will fire it up now

CK's link matches the one provided in Halong's chat, works well so far.

I've targeted my T1 to CK's pool, and started the performance tuning process. Feel free to follow along here:
http://ckpool.org/users/bc1qw0el3xg4zjuukjtmq9d8u9wr6yn57ts896k83u

Firmware link, hot off the press before it's officially released:
https://bit.ly/2HCuPq6