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* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
Even though the online casino gambling as influences on the massive audience, I don't think it has been in any strategic or physically enforced a compulsory venture to anyone that he must gamble.
I don't see gambling walking to the players instead the players walks to the gambles so, directly and indirectly gambling has an influence but has not path to be blamed over individuals irrepressible living on their caused of gambling.


For a weak person it is but for a strong person its not, it really depends on the character of the gambler, gambling only ruin weak people, the gambling platforms are meant to be an entertainment portal and strong individuals treated gambling it as such but for weak people its their temptation to fulfill their dream that will not and cannot happen in platforms like gambling.
People are quick to blame gambling for their miseries and these people are weak people who think wrongly about gambling, if you know the fact about gambling and you follow the right path I don't think you will be ruined in gambling.
People who have definition about gambling are the one messed up their lives because of gambling.

Yes, we have this kind of discussions with our circle of friends, I mean if you have influenced someone to gamble and then they ruined their lives, it is your fault or if that person is just a weak, he has that personality that he can't control his life and then blame others for what had happen to them.

Many of us here become addicted at some point, but recover in time and then get back in their feet. So it's not gambling per se to blame or even cocaine or whatever drugs for ruining someone's life here. If you don't have control and very weak inside, obviously your life will be miserable. But if you have realized it, then you can make a U-turn for the better and change your lives.
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* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
Even though the online casino gambling as influences on the massive audience, I don't think it has been in any strategic or physically enforced a compulsory venture to anyone that he must gamble.
I don't see gambling walking to the players instead the players walks to the gambles so, directly and indirectly gambling has an influence but has not path to be blamed over individuals irrepressible living on their caused of gambling.


For a weak person it is but for a strong person its not, it really depends on the character of the gambler, gambling only ruin weak people, the gambling platforms are meant to be an entertainment portal and strong individuals treated gambling it as such but for weak people its their temptation to fulfill their dream that will not and cannot happen in platforms like gambling.
People are quick to blame gambling for their miseries and these people are weak people who think wrongly about gambling, if you know the fact about gambling and you follow the right path I don't think you will be ruined in gambling.
People who have definition about gambling are the one messed up their lives because of gambling.
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Sounds like his addiction to drugs lead him into gambling? People do this type of mistakes but I don't blame the drug and the gambling, the blame is on him for making a poor decision.

Also gambling works in mystery ways at time, maybe he is like someone I know that gets more lucky placing bets on sports in a local casino than doing it online, this person have more losses when gambling online than actually vsisting a casino nearby, I told him to follow the path that works for him and he did.

I think people should be self aware, there are many things we can't explain in this world and they matters, sometimes, things that don't make sense are the answers to everything, many will say there is no different in online and offline gambling, but which one works better for you? Where are you most lucky? I think this is the best things to look out for.
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What I have seen in online gaming addictions is exactly the opposite.... people who are already addicted to gambling end up contracting other addictions to illicit drugs, alcohol or cigarettes due to the psychological stress that gambling losses cause in the people's minds out of control.

That's not always the case, every kind of person can be addicted to drugs/gambling and their living circumstances decides which way they are going after that, even someone from the lower middle class can work their ass off and just to satisfy their urge of addiction but media always portrays that addicted person involved in the robbery, etc.
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This person's life was already ruined before he even got into gambling, why are you saying that gambling is to blame?
Even though he made a lot of money from gambling at first to support his drug addiction, we cannot blame gambling for the addicted life he was leading before that.

Of all the evils, at least he led a dignified life, as he supported his drug addictions with an honest source of income (at first). Many drug addicts prefer to steal or open a clandestine and fraudulent business to get money faster, this would be a bad thing. But the way you stated this fact, I see nothing wrong with gambling.

What I have seen in online gaming addictions is exactly the opposite.... people who are already addicted to gambling end up contracting other addictions to illicit drugs, alcohol or cigarettes due to the psychological stress that gambling losses cause in the people's minds out of control.
He already had a drug addiction before he got to know gambling, and the added knowledge of gambling addiction further worsened his life and made him have two addictions, which both made his life worse. He will not always be able to make money from gambling to buy drugs because, in gambling, he will experience losses, and that will make him lose a lot of money. If he has lost a lot of money while his drug addiction requires him to consume drugs, he may commit a crime, which will further worsen the situation.

This addiction problem is hazardous for people, so we must be able to avoid it and not get too close to gambling or drugs. Moreover, there are many victims of these two addictions, so we have to be more careful in protecting ourselves.
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Gambling is not the problem here; the guy was the problem, and he ended up getting himself into two addictions at the same time. They should focus more on trying to save that soul from destroying himself.
 
Let's look at it this way, assuming there was nothing like gambling, and this guy is already in a state where if he doesn't take those drugs, he feels like he is losing it and can't get control of himself.

What do you think will stop him from doing anything possible just to be able to afford those drugs? And the things possible included selling those laundry properties, as it appears that's the only valuable thing he has in his possession. It's just a matter of time, and he will definitely sell the shop off to sponsor his drug habit.

Yeah agreed.  Gambling isn't the issue most cases its the people who can't make a good decision to save tueor life.  I know people who are just addicted to anything they do whether drugs, gambling, working out etc. Gambling with an agenda to support another habit will never work out too many irrational decisions.

Drugs or other similar intoxicating drugs have a substance that removes memory, consciousness and also by slightly cutting the nerves of brain performance which ultimately makes it really difficult for them to find the best way or decision about the problem they are experiencing, such as the case we are discussing. If he basically likes the act of taking drugs like that or even has been very dependent on drugs with a note that there is a bad feeling or his fitness decreases if he doesn't consume it then I think it's quite reasonable if he takes any action even if it doesn't make sense like trying to make a profit from gambling to finance the purchase of drugs because it's quite difficult to be in a good enough level of consciousness to be able to reach a better decision if he basically has a bad habit that in addition to the impact of these drugs can damage the nerves of the brain.

I think this is a really worrying situation, what concerns me is as you said that he is using gambling as an  alternative to earning money in order to fund other habits. It's like being stuck in a hole and he's digging that hole again which will certainly cause new problems that will make it even more difficult to climb up to save himself.
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My question>>>
* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?
Because to me, he has been a drug addict before began to gamble and he strictly gambled consciencelessly just to make profit and buy himself this assorted unhealthy pills (drugs). So, I don't see anyway of gambling being responsible for his irresponsible reputations with his mentality of what triggered him to gambling and his inabilities to control his gambling.
Gambling is not the problem here; the guy was the problem, and he ended up getting himself into two addictions at the same time. They should focus more on trying to save that soul from destroying himself.
 
Let's look at it this way, assuming there was nothing like gambling, and this guy is already in a state where if he doesn't take those drugs, he feels like he is losing it and can't get control of himself.

What do you think will stop him from doing anything possible just to be able to afford those drugs? And the things possible included selling those laundry properties, as it appears that's the only valuable thing he has in his possession. It's just a matter of time, and he will definitely sell the shop off to sponsor his drug habit.

Yeah agreed.  Gambling isn't the issue most cases its the people who can't make a good decision to save tueor life.  I know people who are just addicted to anything they do whether drugs, gambling, working out etc. Gambling with an agenda to support another habit will never work out too many irrational decisions.
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This person's life was already ruined before he even got into gambling, why are you saying that gambling is to blame?
Even though he made a lot of money from gambling at first to support his drug addiction, we cannot blame gambling for the addicted life he was leading before that.

Of all the evils, at least he led a dignified life, as he supported his drug addictions with an honest source of income (at first). Many drug addicts prefer to steal or open a clandestine and fraudulent business to get money faster, this would be a bad thing. But the way you stated this fact, I see nothing wrong with gambling.

What I have seen in online gaming addictions is exactly the opposite.... people who are already addicted to gambling end up contracting other addictions to illicit drugs, alcohol or cigarettes due to the psychological stress that gambling losses cause in the people's minds out of control.
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This is a different addiction and we should not blame gambling if you’re already addict in drugs.
Though gambling can make it worst as you are being exposed again in other market where you can be addict again and in gambling you can have the chance to multiply your money and that’s why many drug addict are also into gambling. Being responsible is always the best option, if you are addict in drugs better to start rehabilitate yourself and don’t gamble, because it can make the situation worst.

I do think as well that it's very different addiction and there are no correlation to one another. And maybe those drug addicts are just hiding from the fact that they want to gamble to get more money and so they can buy more drugs and that is b**s**t. I think here, admit it or not, there are a lot of gambling addicts, but you will not here us saying this excuses or going into drugs.

Gambling as vices is enough already. Don't ruined it with going into drugs as it is worst. The only thing that I see on both is that maybe individuals are using drugs and gambling as a way to cope stress and or anxiety. But then again, as I have said, it will just make it worst and we shouldn't go on this direction.
Addiction could correlate on one another yet actions could chain up basing up on the condition specially when it involves money or funding.  Cool

If you do saw that you dont have money to sustain your addiction towards drugs, then you could possible be stealing up money, you could be making those illegal acts or you might be thinking
on playing gambling because winning or making money is easy?. You would definitely be having these kind of impressions and anticipations on which it would really be leading on those kind of acts.

In overall, it would really be just that depending on someones acts because if they wont really be that having that sense of what right and wrong kind of decision
then they would really be ending up on having that kind of situations on which might be leading into disaster financially and even into your own health.
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This is a different addiction and we should not blame gambling if you’re already addict in drugs.
Though gambling can make it worst as you are being exposed again in other market where you can be addict again and in gambling you can have the chance to multiply your money and that’s why many drug addict are also into gambling. Being responsible is always the best option, if you are addict in drugs better to start rehabilitate yourself and don’t gamble, because it can make the situation worst.

I do think as well that it's very different addiction and there are no correlation to one another. And maybe those drug addicts are just hiding from the fact that they want to gamble to get more money and so they can buy more drugs and that is b**s**t. I think here, admit it or not, there are a lot of gambling addicts, but you will not here us saying this excuses or going into drugs.

Gambling as vices is enough already. Don't ruined it with going into drugs as it is worst. The only thing that I see on both is that maybe individuals are using drugs and gambling as a way to cope stress and or anxiety. But then again, as I have said, it will just make it worst and we shouldn't go on this direction.
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This is a different addiction and we should not blame gambling if you’re already addict in drugs.
Though gambling can make it worst as you are being exposed again in other market where you can be addict again and in gambling you can have the chance to multiply your money and that’s why many drug addict are also into gambling. Being responsible is always the best option, if you are addict in drugs better to start rehabilitate yourself and don’t gamble, because it can make the situation worst.
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hard drugs are always really strong and unpredictable on real (medium long) term effects.
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* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
This is a curious question. Gambling is not ruining nothing if you play wisely... It's just a form of fun... an hobby nothing more.
Remember (here I am talking as registered pharmacist that work actually in a pharmacy in Italy) you need to get an help for cocaine addiction that requires even YEARS to be addressed, gambling is probably the last problem in this case.
What ruins lives is not gambling. gambling is just a means to get pleasure. because it cannot be denied that gambling addicts will not feel calm if they still have not made a bet on their gambling. but keep in mind not to use illegal drugs just to calm down when experiencing excessive defeat. because that will damage the brain and mental health.
Gambling doesn't ruin lives rather peoples attitude towards gambling does, gambling was supposed to be a means of entertainment or catching fun, personally I do referr to it as an expensive fun although there are room for little stakes but then you have to make some stakes to be able to participate in such fun.

Some persons go beyond making gambling fin and entertaining to making it their source of income and that's where they start having issues gambling and probably turn addicted and when they become addicted and indulge in unhealthy practice they blame it on gambling meanwhile they had a very wrong approach towards it. When compared with drugs they are almost the same because they both come with the adrenaline rush and also the desire to satisfy such craving which until it's satisfied they don't get at ease.
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Look, dollars are used for drug trafficking, right? Are US dollars to be blamed for whoever decides to use drugs? Same with paedophiles or weapons dealers, they use dollars, but that does not make the dollar a bad thing, it is the use that people make of it what is not right. Gambling is not wrong in itself, it is a pastime and some addictive personalities may just fall into it like they could in other stuff.
Exactly gambling cannot be blamed in this scenario. The guy I question was a drug addict of which most are also gambling addicts.
You don't expect someone who can not help but take hard drugs often just to satisfy their nasty addiction to not do same with gambling. just as he is to blame for his actions and not the drugs, he is also to blame for his wrong way of practicing gambling. Gambling is a neutral act and when most haters classify it as an evil act , they do so from their view about addicts.
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My question>>>
* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?
Because to me, he has been a drug addict before began to gamble and he strictly gambled consciencelessly just to make profit and buy himself this assorted unhealthy pills (drugs). So, I don't see anyway of gambling being responsible for his irresponsible reputations with his mentality of what triggered him to gambling and his inabilities to control his gambling.
Gambling is not the problem here; the guy was the problem, and he ended up getting himself into two addictions at the same time. They should focus more on trying to save that soul from destroying himself.
 
Let's look at it this way, assuming there was nothing like gambling, and this guy is already in a state where if he doesn't take those drugs, he feels like he is losing it and can't get control of himself.

What do you think will stop him from doing anything possible just to be able to afford those drugs? And the things possible included selling those laundry properties, as it appears that's the only valuable thing he has in his possession. It's just a matter of time, and he will definitely sell the shop off to sponsor his drug habit.
I agree with this, it is the person not the drug or even the gambling.
It is their own action that destroyed their life, if he didn't touch or get addicted to drugs there is a chance that he wouldn't be addicted to gambling.
People could change if they really want to, and for me it is all just an excuse that they are addicted to something and couldn't get over it.
They just need strong determination to move out of their bad habit, step by step it would surely be a slow progress but if they could do it from time to time, they could surely fix their life.
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I mean. This guy OP is talking about got in trouble as soon as could not control the craving to consume more of those hard drugs. Even if he only stayed on that addiction alone he would have ended up selling much of his assets to get more of it, sadly the fact he got into gambling only accelerated his trajectory down hill.
That is honestly the most dangerous and saddest part of those addictions, one cannot longer think logically and realize about the endless string of mistakes one is committing.
I know there is an important market for those kind of drugs there in Nigeria, that country is part of the path cocaine is trafficked up towards Europe. One could only hope there was more rehabilitation centers and clinics for those who end up calling into those addictions, before they sell all their possessions to continue to fuel their cravings.
It is quite sad...
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You won't see people say that it was "the fault of gambling" in a gambling forum. It's the same as asking people in a drug forum if drugs are to blame for addiction or people. The vast majority will tell you that it's people and IMO this is the way it is, but I'd like to see someone claim otherwise for the sake of the argument.
The way I see it, the existence of an object or action cannot be blamed for people's choices regarding it. When you see berries, you can eat them or not. It's not the fault of the berries that some of them are poisonous.
There are actually people who can say that. Like me for example, I already made a reply before in which I say that it was also the fault of gambling on why there are problem gamblers. It is also the fault of the people because they play on them. On your " berry " example, I think it was the fault of the berries on why they are poisonous but it's only up to the person if they will eat them or not.

Though I'm sure that a people that can think clearly won't eat them. Using it as a comparison to gambling was still far IMO because even if gambling is known to be highly addicting and risky, many people are still playing at them. And some of them can still be responsible.
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I can't imagine how someone can be addicted to gambling and also addicted to drugs whereas having one of the addictions in this case can destroy a person's future very quickly whereas in the case described OP has both addictions and I'm sure he is an insane person.

but what I'm thinking right now is why a drug addict can become addicted to gambling while a drug addict always thinks about drugs to buy without thinking about gambling and for me this really doesn't make sense if a drug addict has the desire to make big money from gambling while he was destroyed because he was too addicted to drugs.

I support you, if you already have awareness regarding your addiction, it would be better to immediately go to a professional doctor to provide rehabilitation to help cure your addiction.
Well, that's beyond our thinking, but that's the reality out there, and we also don't know what happened until he had two addictions. This could endanger his life and destroy his future and that of his family because his family will feel the impact of his addiction.

Maybe he was just addicted to drugs at first but then he saw how people could win from gambling. They also tried their luck by gambling but what happened was that they lost. And finally, they are also addicted to gambling, so they experience two addictions at once, which adds to the problem even more.

By visiting a professional doctor, it can help him cure his addiction but it may take time because there are two addictions at once. He should be aware of his addiction and his family should be able to help him heal.
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* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
This is a curious question. Gambling is not ruining nothing if you play wisely... It's just a form of fun... an hobby nothing more.
Remember (here I am talking as registered pharmacist that work actually in a pharmacy in Italy) you need to get an help for cocaine addiction that requires even YEARS to be addressed, gambling is probably the last problem in this case.
What ruins lives is not gambling. gambling is just a means to get pleasure. because it cannot be denied that gambling addicts will not feel calm if they still have not made a bet on their gambling. but keep in mind not to use illegal drugs just to calm down when experiencing excessive defeat. because that will damage the brain and mental health.
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My question>>>
* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?
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Just because he tried to fund it by gambling how would gambling be the issue here? If that guy worked at the building site to fund his drug habits, would we blame building sites for it?

Irresponsibility and drug addiction is the problem here, the fact he thought he could fund it by gambling is either him lying or he doesn't know how income works, or he was just addicted to gambling as well. But let's not be that fast to judge his decisions, because some of them might not be "decisions", but just acts one does in withdrawal.

Gambling of course can ruin some lifes as it's not for everyone. Almost anything that you get hooked to and when you lose control is bad for you. Doubly so when there's so much monetary responsibilities involved.

But from what you write, it sounds like your country needs their gambling laws fixed.
So the main question is, how that building site do knows that those amounts came from drugs? How they would be able to know for them to prohibit a particular gambler on playing into the venue?
This what makes it hard to detect whether those fiats or money are tainted or do came from illegal things or not, unless if there would really be that obvious exchange then it would really be that a total illegal thing but i highly doubt this thing considering that no physical casinos would really be that allowing such thing yet this isnt something a business that you could easily be busted up by the authorities because of illegal doings.
There's no other things which you can really be able to blame with but rather on that person itself because if he wont really be that making himself engaging too much with gambling or having that
addiction then he wont really be able to end up with those kind of situation or circumstances. Gambling addiction could really lead up into different possible scenarios on which an individual might really be getting involved with on which on the time that addiction hits hard then this is where it would be starting for you to do things even if its illegal or simply it could really give out that kind of risk into yourself.

Its never been worth on trying out to tolerate things on which you do know that it wouldnt really be that giving that good impact into you. You should really be that mindful about on the things
that you are dealing and the actions that you are really that taking. You cant really just that make yourself do make out some reckless decisions.
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hard drugs are always really strong and unpredictable on real (medium long) term effects.

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* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
This is a curious question. Gambling is not ruining nothing if you play wisely... It's just a form of fun... an hobby nothing more.
Remember (here I am talking as registered pharmacist that work actually in a pharmacy in Italy) you need to get an help for cocaine addiction that requires even YEARS to be addressed, gambling is probably the last problem in this case.
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