Topic: Drug (cocaine) addicts compromises gambling potentials - page 5. (Read 521 times)

* In no way can we blame gambling and consider the gambler a victim of it. This is a fallacy that people should realize is wrong.
I will give you an example to understand the extent of the fallacy. When I give you a car and you drive badly and have a serious accident, do we blame the car or its driver for the accident?

* Honestly, I re-read the question several times and could not understand what you wanted to ask about. I'm sorry to tell you that your English is very bad. Please try to rephrase it.

* It can be said that gambling is the reason for ruining the lives of many people, but it cannot be held responsible absolutely. The idea is that no one wakes up one day to find himself addicted to gambling or that gambling is a disease that affects individuals. Every person is responsible for his choices, and therefore falling victim to addiction is the result of a self-decision. This is another example to understand. When someone kills someone using a gun, do we blame the gun and say that it caused the crime?

Let's be honest, especially (drugs)

Even without drugs using some medicine while the purpose is for medical and bring the good things, some people just can used these to get high. IMO, all depends on the individual (drug) cannot really be blame.

If you search on internet, some drug can be used as medical purpose however due the restricted people cannot used it and guess what ? the person die. Gambling it's fo ethertaimen only while you can afford to lose, like you buy beer with your money. You can use the money you are gonna to use for beer for gambling.

They say drugs like cocaine affect your decision making, so I could see why it would be a bad idea to rail a bunch of lines and start gambling with your life savings. That being said, if you’re on a winning streak and haven’t slept in over a day, I can’t think of a better way to stay alert at the table. (Joking, don’t do drugs kids)

Well, I will answer all of these questions in general because I feel like they have the same idea.

The problem belongs to people's perception of the subject (the field of gambling) and it always comes with different views from people themselves. If I blame a certain area, I just give an example of how many people blame food as the cause of obesity , like not liking to admit their own mistakes and just seeing the society around us causes us problems.

I see that the love of thinking in society is something that everyone needs to be trained through the process, and all the nuances exposed before our eyes are like lessons and reminders of the knowledge we have contact. With gambling I always keep a relaxed attitude because I am the one who makes the choices about it, and rather about the responsibility when playing these things, so any other story is one of the lessons we are exposed to.

The one to blame is the drug addict because he is already addicted to drugs and he is addicted to gambling, which makes him have two gambling addictions. He must realize that his condition is worsening and immediately heal himself. But he won't be able to realize this because he has two addictions.
I'm not an economist, so I don't know about it. But perhaps regulating online betting in app stores could be done to reduce the number of people addicted to gambling. But this is difficult to do because it requires education for people or the wider community so that they can understand that gambling can have bad consequences.
It is not the fault of gambling but the fault of the people who have used gambling beyond their limits. People consider gambling as a way to make money and they use a lot of money to be able to make money. That is the biggest mistake because gambling is not designed to provide income to anyone, even though gambling can provide winnings to lucky people.

You have made your post too long and boring to go through.

However, how will this fly? Is banning of online gambling the solution? No. Is anyone forced into gambling or drug, No. You can be influenced into it but as an adult you should know what you want. Apart from gambling online, gamblers also spend lavishly on offline gambling, they lose hugely and so, it is irrelevant where you lose whether offline or online there is no need painting online gambling black for the fault of inept gambler who is seeking to take care of his financial challenges and obligations or what have you with gambling.

We know you can't gamble more than what you set your mind for because if you do that there is chances you will sell off your belongings chasing back your loses and that is what has happened to the drug addict.

What a combination, cocaine, which is not exactly cheap as electronicash says, and gambling. A straight road to ruin.


In the end he was left with nothing, no gambling, no business and no drugs. Probably now he will do other more unethical things to get money and continue with his vices. These stories usually end fatally, with the protagonist in jail and dying young.

i say gambling adds to the reason why he ends up miserable right now. and though he could still be there when his drug addiction takes over him but he could be saved still if he just relied on his laundry business to haave a supply of his drugs. instead, he turned to gambling which he has no control over.

the drugs still are the reason why he gambles. he wanted more of the cocaine. it's not a cheap drug.

I had to go through the original article and from what I noticed I don’t think gambling is the main issue here.

Since we're talking about a drug addict who, at some point, didn't have enough money to buy his drugs and had to turn to gambling to make ends meet, assuming this person didn't gamble, there's a good chance he'd have turned to something more unethical to fund his drugs.  We shouldn’t forget that drug addiction is one of the major causes of crime in the society.

He had a goal when he started gambling, and every time he checks into his account, all he thinks about is how to make millions of dollars for his medications; people like this never do anything productive. They're users here who have been gambling for years; they were already gamblers before joining Bitcointalk, and they know exactly what they want every time they check in - when to fold, when to hold, and when to walk away.

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If you read the article, you'll notice that he mentioned his drugs being expensive, and I'm sure the majority of them are illegal, but those proposing a gambling ban didn't discuss how to stop the circulation of those drugs that are being abused, because it's clear that his case was caused by his drug addiction, which has the potential to impair his reasoning capacity. Instead they want to stop betting.

Generally what we see is drugs and gambling, two things that are linked to each other. It seems that it is not cool to use drugs without gambling. In this case, my understanding is that it is not gambling that is to blame, the users themselves are to blame, many of them gamble without using drugs.

I haven't found research and haven't read anything like that, regarding gambling, politics, economics and so on, maybe I have to search deeper to answer this.

It's not gambling that should be blamed, it's those who gamble that should be blamed, gambling has no thoughts while humans have all that to think.

      -   I believe the influencers who promote online casinos in various fields of social media platforms are influencing many people who are ruining the livelihoods of others who are trying because of their fraudulent claims when they promote casinos.

The fraud in their promotion is very acute, like the words that most influencers will use to say that when you sign up with their link, you will definitely not experience defeat; instead, you will experience only winning, as they hyped showing a lot of money on their video ads.

If someone complain gambling can ruin someone else life or could make a problem because it's to make money, the government should ban fiat and adopt communist ideology, so no one would be rich except the government.

Incorrect, fiat is already a failed currency, by the mechanism, there's no way fiat value will increase because it has unlimited supply and backed by nothing. It's true online gambling could reduce the country's income because it's not taxed, but as I said there's no relation between online casino and fiat value.

Based on my understanding, I will assume that the guy is also knowledgeable about the sports he has chosen to bet on and that might be the reason why he can manage and pull some profits in sports betting. His knowledge of that said sport lures him to gamble more because if he just gambles just out of nowhere, I think he will choose to gamble instead of the usual slot games and anything that requires only luck.

I think even if that guy is involved in drugs or not, he will still end up gambling because of the interest.

*When you are drug addicted then for sure you would really be dealing up with things or engaging into something that could give out that fast income or profit on which gambling do checks out that tick box.
*Its does have its pros and cons, but usually government would really be that focusing much more on tax revenue rather than on thinking about other possible matters.
*The only one that you could really be able to blame is only yourself, you havent been forced to do gambling and spend up tons on it. Its not bad to gambler if you
do really just that make yourself that responsible and discipline then you wont really be putting up yourself on such trouble or possible problem.

Don't blame gambling why some people got their lives ruined. We are the ones responsible for where should we end. Our life depends on our actions. I know the environment around us plays a big role in our behaviour but are just going to let other things affect what are we supposed to do?

Gambling is just there, silent and idle and these people are the ones who entered and want to test what gambling is. Nothing wrong but make sure once we enter gambling, we know and are aware of the things that we should do and always keep ourselves away from the trap of gambling as much as possible.

OP, after reading through all that you have written, I find a need to read through the article you uploaded so I can properly understand the reason why the office of the Nigerian government feels that stopping online sports gambling will help the devaluation of the naira and make it gain more value.

What I find as their reason for wanting to stop online sports gambling is what's in the quote below.



At a point, I feel that this discussion should have been pushed to the political board, but well, it's also fit on a gambling board. Just to drop a few lines as to the reason for the Naira devaluation. The major causes of the devaluation of the naira are:

Rising inflation, foreign reserve depletion, exchange rate policies, weak diversification, and heavy oil reliance. These are major causes of the naira devaluation. Now, my own question is: what has the Nigerian government done about those factors causing devaluation? What has been done about those factors to prevent the Naira from undergoing devaluation?. 

PS: I am not in any way opposing the decision of the Nigerian government to protect their naira, but guess what? I also checked on the rate of gambling in the US and how much is being gambled off every year, and the value was huge, yet the dollar has more value than the naira.



To answer your question, @OP, I would say that gambling is not to blame. People have a choice in everything they do in life, and if an individual chooses to become addicted to something, they should have themselves to blame and nothing else. Perhaps he was already addicted to drug intake; even if he had not ventured into gambling, he definitely would have still sold all his property and used the money to buy drugs because, from his lifestyle as described, he lacks self-control. What the government should even be doing now is carrying out an investigation to find out who is actually supplying cocaine to the victim in discussion.

First I will like draw an attention towards this issues because I can see is a complex case where he needs to battle for one problems before indulging in another case that could worsen the whole problem. At first he was already battling with drug addicts and didn't fight against it before looking for another source to make money.. we call this desperacy, when a man is desperate looking for money then he would do all thing to gain money and this was what attributed to his failure.

Have you also remembered that there are people who are gambling and making fortune out of it? Of course gambling has helped lots of people in our country mostly since the government has no working opportunity for her citizen, most people are using gambling to sustain their family and it has helped lots of people for that matter and if gambling is the cause of his predicament then what about his drugs addiction?

No one to be blamed apart from himself and he should work on himself to stop both, because drugs alone is worster than gambling because that can make you sell of whatever you both millions to thousand without calculating how much you spent on it, at this place we have to apportioned the blamed on him.

This is a case of "giving a dog a bad name in order to kill it". How can you blame gambling for the actions of a drug addict? Without gambling, he will chose other options to raise funds for his drug. He can go as far as stealing because he is addicted and will stop at nothing to get drugs. So, gambling has no blame for his decisions or actions.

There is no way a drug addict will not show desperation in his gambling, he cannot make clear decisions and this will affect his gambling performance. Except on luck base games such as slots, he stand no chance at making progress in skill based games because his decision making are already distorted by the influence of the drugs.

It is best we sort out our needs as well as our finances before even getting started in gambling because gambling should be seen as a way of making passive income. This is the only way to remain sane in gambling because losses will always come when we least expected.

Drugs will give every idea  even impossible just for you to have it , because addicted in drugs
(well even in gambling) will do everything just to get what they needed and this is the hardest  addictions a human
can ever have, a drug addicted and gambling addict all in one.

even if he did not learn or find about gambling he will do what it takes just to have drugs supply
and with all of those stand that person is really in the edge of his life and that person needs help quickly  before its too late.

And that's where it gets confusing for more gamblers. They are finding someone to point their fingers at for all their regrets and I think that's normal being a human. We do love to blame others so that we will feel better about ourselves. Well, the good thing about it is, gambling site owners don't really answer this kind of blame game. They just let gamblers put all their hate to them but we all know even with that hatred, gamblers will still gamble at the end of the day. It's too difficult to let go of the entertainment and roller coaster emotional effect that it gives.

Should gambling sites take all the blame? No, I don't think so. We are gambling with the knowledge that we are risking our real money here. If we do not accept that, then we are just hypocrites trying to make money out of thin air which could not be done in gambling or any other business and investment.
Taking the risk will always be there, but in gambling, we take it to greater heights because we want the easy way and maybe even the fastest way to increase our money.
I had my share of ranting in the chatbox of one gambling site because of the lack of RTP chance after I experienced a long losing streak. But that ends there and when I wake up I am still the one to be blamed for being emotional and chasing my losses in a rush.