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Quote from: Yatsan on January 11, 2024, 02:09:02 PM

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The individual is highly irresponsible and he is the only one who should be blamed for whatever he ended up or will be.

No one is to be blamed; there's no need to do so. What's better is to focus on the solution and that is obviously professional help. Assuming that there are government sectors handling addiction and rehabilitation in his area, it would be a huge help if he will be convinced to get himself treated and best if he will be having the initiative to do so.

Addiction needs help but gambling or the drug or whatever the person is addicted not force the addicted individual to use it, so the person decides whether knowingly or unknowingly the outcomes which is why we can't blame gambling or online casino method for someone who got addicted to it.

Addiction rehabilitation works differently in every country so if where we live has a good system then we can count on the free support provided by the government or else better take the private centres which obviously comes with the price tag.

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Quote from: Juse14 on January 11, 2024, 01:47:49 PM

Gambling must be done with full control, remembering that because gambling is a type of game that is full of challenges and risks, it really must be played calmly. And if someone is under the influence of drugs, it is certain that he has lost consciousness and someone who is under the influence of drugs tends to be emotional and temperamental. So it will be difficult for him to gamble calmly, which ultimately encourages him to behave recklessly.

And in this case, it's not gambling that's wrong. but it is this person who has misunderstood and interpreted gambling itself. It is wrong to think that gambling can provide profits, it is wrong to think that gambling doubles your money. And we also have to remember, that the casino never forces someone to visit and play at the casino, they only make an offer and the rest is up to you personally, whether to gamble or not.

On the time that addiction with gambling becomes severe then you would really be losing up yourself into thinking about the right things on which you might really be that even ended up on
going into the path on taking up some drugs on which it is really just that on extreme kind of situation on which you did really reach out into this point on which you are really just
that basically making yourself or life will be miserable on which you are really that putting yourself on such big problem if you do make yourself having both
addictions on which one could destroy your health and one could make possibly sleep you in the streets because of having no money.

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Regardless of what reason, addiction will be always negative so what more if the case is one addiction to another? Simply means that the guy really needs help before his obsession of things manifest into worse; robbery and such. If the concern is what behavior to target in order to lessen the occurence, then that's for professionals to decide. Problem is we tend to overlook addiction with symptoms in line with exposure, however that's not only the factor to consider in order to determine whether an individual is addicted already.Bottomline is, he needs professional help.

Quote from: Findingnemo on January 11, 2024, 01:35:00 PM

The individual is highly irresponsible and he is the only one who should be blamed for whatever he ended up or will be.

Gambling is no way near to consider it as a way of increasing the revenue source which is simple knowledge that anyone may know but some think that they can beat the system and make the life better by doing nothing but it happen only for one in a thousand or even higher and the remaining people will be on the other side.

No one is to be blamed; there's no need to do so. What's better is to focus on the solution and that is obviously professional help. Assuming that there are government sectors handling addiction and rehabilitation in his area, it would be a huge help if he will be convinced to get himself treated and best if he will be having the initiative to do so.

Also, it is not always the idea of beating the house but more of pushing one's luck to get rich despite of the losses a gambler already have.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 11, 2024, 05:59:42 AM

* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?
Because to me, he has been a drug addict before began to gamble and he strictly gambled consciencelessly just to make profit and buy himself this assorted unhealthy pills (drugs). So, I don't see anyway of gambling being responsible for his irresponsible reputations with his mentality of what triggered him to gambling and his inabilities to control his gambling.

Gambling, neither drugs were responsible for his choices in life. He was responsible for his own actions. That is how things work in real world. Inanimate objects or activities can't be blamed for individuals' decisions. He decided to do drugs, and then to gamble in order to afford his initial addiction. Consequently, he suffered the consequences for his choices. You can't expect to sow apples and gather oranges... Evil seeds will develop into evil fruits.

Quote from: EluguHcman on January 11, 2024, 05:59:42 AM

* Was the political social influencer right to say getting to an end of online sport bets in the app stores and the moderating of gambling would regain back the devalued currency and attracts a growing economy back to the nation a right acceptable and good research?
As much as I know, individual indulgences has no stake of influences to affect the national economy at where the government folds its hands of governance While counting national welfareness reliably of the vulnerable individuals. Although, getting to an end of online sport bets from the app stores would contribute to manage the number of psychological gambling addictive effects in the country.

The most notorious traits of a social influencer is to be a deceiver, hypocritical, demagogue and populist individual. They use these "skills" to grab the attention of the public, who generates views and engagement for them on social networks. That is how they make money for a living. If they have to lie about creating miraculous solutions to solve society's struggles with simple steps, they will do this without any constraints. Of course banning gambling won't solve all the problems your nation faces, otherwise they wouldn't exist a long time ago, when online gambling popularity wasn't exploding yet.

Quote from: EluguHcman on January 11, 2024, 05:59:42 AM

* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
Even though the online casino gambling as influences on the massive audience, I don't think it has been in any strategic or physically enforced a compulsory venture to anyone that he must gamble.
I don't see gambling walking to the players instead the players walks to the gambles so, directly and indirectly gambling has an influence but has not path to be blamed over individuals irrepressible living on their caused of gambling.

The reply for this question is the same of the first one.

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Gambling must be done with full control, remembering that because gambling is a type of game that is full of challenges and risks, it really must be played calmly. And if someone is under the influence of drugs, it is certain that he has lost consciousness and someone who is under the influence of drugs tends to be emotional and temperamental. So it will be difficult for him to gamble calmly, which ultimately encourages him to behave recklessly.

And in this case, it's not gambling that's wrong. but it is this person who has misunderstood and interpreted gambling itself. It is wrong to think that gambling can provide profits, it is wrong to think that gambling doubles your money. And we also have to remember, that the casino never forces someone to visit and play at the casino, they only make an offer and the rest is up to you personally, whether to gamble or not.

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Quote from: Orpichukwu on January 11, 2024, 06:09:25 AM

Gambling is not the problem here; the guy was the problem, and he ended up getting himself into two addictions at the same time. They should focus more on trying to save that soul from destroying himself.

Let's look at it this way, assuming there was nothing like gambling, and this guy is already in a state where if he doesn't take those drugs, he feels like he is losing it and can't get control of himself.

What do you think will stop him from doing anything possible just to be able to afford those drugs? And the things possible included selling those laundry properties, as it appears that's the only valuable thing he has in his possession. It's just a matter of time, and he will definitely sell the shop off to sponsor his drug habit.

You nailed it, the guy in question who couldn't control himself from drug abuse ventured into gambling which is even worse in my own rating, reason being that drug abuse was just deleting his money and isn't taking away his concentration from his business. He doubled his problem by including gambling which demands great concentration and by so doing lost interest in his business and list the capital to fuel his addiction life.

Gambling had the perfect opportunity to deal with the guy the way it knows best, it ruined him to the extent he has to sell this properties that once gave him his daily bread and sustained his drug addiction. If he ever recovered from this, he should be considered very lucky cos his problem is not one that can be solved without much stress as he needs to visit a rehabilitation center too help with his drug addiction.

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The individual is highly irresponsible and he is the only one who should be blamed for whatever he ended up or will be.

Gambling is no way near to consider it as a way of increasing the revenue source which is simple knowledge that anyone may know but some think that they can beat the system and make the life better by doing nothing but it happen only for one in a thousand or even higher and the remaining people will be on the other side.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 11, 2024, 05:59:42 AM

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In my opinion it makes no difference what exactly ruined this guy - drugs or gambling (or all at once). It is important to realize that if a person takes heavy drugs, when he is sober he is aware of what he is doing and understands that most likely his life will get worse every day. He has made his own choice to continue to slowly but surely kill himself. He has only himself to blame for losing everything he had, not gambling or cocaine.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 11, 2024, 05:59:42 AM

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I don't believe gambling should be blamed for ruining someone's life. It's an activity individuals choose to engage in, and it doesn't force anyone to play. Some people, however, take it to the extreme and end up harming themselves. Casinos and gambling centers are just running their businesses, and if you choose not to play, they won't force you. The person you mentioned using gambling funds for addictive drugs is responsible for his choices. Gambling should be done by individuals who can responsibly manage it, setting limits for themselves.

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Nah, in the first place, the man is already addicted in drugs before engaging in gambling, the fact that he is addicted he would definitely do anything just to have his hands on that cocaine. He saw an opportunity in gambling to have a quick cash grab as he experienced winning but luck wouldn't be always on your side, that reason enough gambling as a source of money isn't recommendable since it's not consistent and stable.

Just imagine you put more logs into the fire what would might happen? When one addiction uses another addiction to sustain the other needs, it wouldn't be balanced as the other one you haven't sustain already catched up. It will literally ruin someone's life just like the OP stated, the man has a stable income from his laundry shop, now that his addiction to gambling also increased, it reached to the point where he would sell his properties just to have enough money for gambling. Well, if he might win for sure it would go straight into the drugs not to reinvest it to his business.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on January 11, 2024, 06:51:04 AM

Gambling is not to blame but people who gamble excessively and want to use gambling as a source of income are to blame. There should be new regulations stating that those who gamble excessively will receive severe punishment so that those who gamble excessively can understand this and try hard to reduce their gambling activities. The government must provide education to its citizens and strictly prohibit those who want to use gambling as a source of income. But it seems that this is not easy to do because there are already many people who consider gambling as a source of income and these are the ones who need to be trained and made aware of it first, including those written by @OP. Gambling is the same as other activities, but the difference is that gambling uses money to get fun and entertainment. At the same time, other activities may also use money but perhaps not as much as gambling.

On a norms, gambling is gambling but the important part of it is that no gambler should ever use or see gambling as a means of making money because they will end up losing losing losing and losing their money.
Although, sometimes some gamblers likely win some good amount of money and sometimes we also lose money too, so when a gambler who's gambling for profit start losing his or her money in gambling they will try to look fir away that they will win back the money that they have lost while gambling.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 11, 2024, 05:59:42 AM

My question>>>
* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?

The character you described has two major problems. Drug addiction and using gambling to fund it. I blame him one hundred percent for assuming that he can fund his drug addiction with an unpredictable source of income. Depending on gambling as an alternative source of income is risky but depending on it as a main source of income will naturally lead to disaster. He needs to go to rehab to cure his drug addiction and learn how to gamble responsibly.

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* Was the political social influencer right to say getting to an end of online sport bets in the app stores and the moderating of gambling would regain back the devalued currency and attracts a growing economy back to the nation a right acceptable and good research?

I doubt if that is what this influencer said because it doesn't make any sense. Regulating gambling and making strict laws discourage gambling firms from Investing in the country. This will cause a reduction in tax revenue and lead to unemployment. Gambling firms pay high taxes and licence fees which is a major source of revenue for the government. Casinos and bet houses also create employment opportunities for the labor force of the country. So gambling platforms will even contribute to the growth of the economy.

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* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?

Gambling is not to blame for the problems people have the challenge is irresponsible gambling. I know that we have more responsible gamblers than addicts.

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when i read the first paragraph of your story, i didn't even need to read the whole story and immediately knew who was at fault here. the one who is to blame here is that he is so stupid that he can become addicted to gambling and drugs. gambling and drugs are not to be blamed, because if he is smart he should understand that drug addiction alone can make people worse, especially if it is combined with gambling addiction.

hopefully he doesn't commit a crime because usually people who have become addicted to drugs and gambling like that will usually commit crimes when they no longer have money to feed their addiction.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 11, 2024, 05:59:42 AM

My question>>>
* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?

Gambling is something different entirely from drugs addiction irrespective of the kind of drugs, some people engage on drugs just to be able to earn from it while some to use it for their personal desires, gambling cannot be able to afford the cost for drugs Incase of the addicted gambler, most that are into drugs get money from it to use for gambling and not depending on gambling winnings to be able to afford buying those drugs because most of them are expensive.

Quote from: EluguHcman on January 11, 2024, 05:59:42 AM

* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?

No, we should blame self for being an addicted gambler or a drug addict, there are many attrocities in life and for the fact that they are all present around us doesn't mean that we must have to partake in them, they will do us nothing than harm.

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I will blame the gambler for his doom because he decided to abandon his laundry shop that has being assisting him to take care of his drug expenses and decided to see gambling as the best alternative to get rich quick to use on his drug expenses. Laziness and greed took over him and he messed up his life with gambling. He was OK when he was doing drugs with his small business but he frustrated himself when he jumped into gambling. This is the same way that anyone who is not into drugs will also end up if he thinks that gambling is a means to make profit because that person will end up an addict and he will keep on chasing his loss to his doom. On what Omokri said, he is only beating around the bush, this is because Nigeria is a consuming country and don't produce any of those commodity in the country, but import most of them. This is what led to the poor economy state and not gambling. Let the government think of producing more than consuming and the economy will improve. It is bad to have people with low mentality in the government because they wouldn't be able to figure out the problem that the country is facing and it's solution.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 11, 2024, 05:59:42 AM

My question>>>
* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?
Because to me, he has been a drug addict before began to gamble and he strictly gambled consciencelessly just to make profit and buy himself this assorted unhealthy pills (drugs). So, I don't see anyway of gambling being responsible for his irresponsible reputations with his mentality of what triggered him to gambling and his inabilities to control his gambling.

* Was the political social influencer right to say getting to an end of online sport bets in the app stores and the moderating of gambling would regain back the devalued currency and attracts a growing economy back to the nation a right acceptable and good research?
As much as I know, individual indulgences has no stake of influences to affect the national economy at where the government folds its hands of governance While counting national welfareness reliably of the vulnerable individuals. Although, getting to an end of online sport bets from the app stores would contribute to manage the number of psychological gambling addictive effects in the country.

* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
Even though the online casino gambling as influences on the massive audience, I don't think it has been in any strategic or physically enforced a compulsory venture to anyone that he must gamble.
I don't see gambling walking to the players instead the players walks to the gambles so, directly and indirectly gambling has an influence but has not path to be blamed over individuals irrepressible living on their caused of gambling.

There are many things created by humans which were meant to be used for a specific purpose but later people used it for something else.
Gambling was created to be enjoyed as a fun activity and for leisure but people started using it as a way to earn money.
That is where most people make the mistake and cannot control themselves from over gambling.
Gambling cannot be blamed for this because its the people who are doing it wrongly.

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Just what a drug addict needs, one more thing to get addicted to and help in making life-destroying decisions.
I might sound harsh, but he only has himself to blame for his problems. No one forced drugs up his mouth, nose, or arms. He bought and used it. No one forced him to gamble away his money on gunpoint, it was his decision. Now, it's him who is paying the price and being forced to face the consequences.

He could have had a nice life, running a profitable business. He could have used the profits to lead a healthy life, buy quality food, better himself both mentally and physically, and travel the world, but he chose a different path.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 11, 2024, 05:59:42 AM

My question>>>
* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?
Because to me, he has been a drug addict before began to gamble and he strictly gambled consciencelessly just to make profit and buy himself this assorted unhealthy pills (drugs). So, I don't see anyway of gambling being responsible for his irresponsible reputations with his mentality of what triggered him to gambling and his inabilities to control his gambling.

Nope- gambling is not to be entirely blamed on this but it further enhanced his prior drug addiction.

I agree with what you said- he was already an addict to begin with. Let us take away gambling for a second: most likely he would find another venture (not gambling) in order to continue sustaining that kind of lifestyle. It just so happened that gambling was his game of choice in furtherance of this first addiction, which was drug abuse.

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* Was the political social influencer right to say getting to an end of online sport bets in the app stores and the moderating of gambling would regain back the devalued currency and attracts a growing economy back to the nation a right acceptable and good research?

It may affect but removing online sport bets in app stores will not have that kind of massive effect.

There are many factors that contribute to the devaluing a currency of a certain country. In contrary to his statement as well, gambling generates tons of revenue in a certain country if they are regulate by the government properly.

Take Philippines as an example, the revenue generated by their gambling establishments is the number one (1) responsible for the most generated money annually. This speaks on how gambling can definitely have a positive effect on the economy if properly established and regulated.

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* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?

Gambling contributes on why people ruined their lives. In a way, gambling clouds one's judgement and rationality to the point that they only seek the satisfaction of winning. In order to profit also, they would have to continuously bet.

While the approach of a person mainly contributes on how he/she gets to be successful, gambling somehow clouds this and necessarily affects the judgement of people. So in a way, gambling does ruin the lives of people who DO NOT KNOW how to control their urges.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 11, 2024, 05:59:42 AM

* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?
Even though the online casino gambling as influences on the massive audience, I don't think it has been in any strategic or physically enforced a compulsory venture to anyone that he must gamble.
I don't see gambling walking to the players instead the players walks to the gambles so, directly and indirectly gambling has an influence but has not path to be blamed over individuals irrepressible living on their caused of gambling.

Anyone who blames gambling for ruining their live must be very irresponsible.

Gambling is neutral. Naturally, anyone who doesn't follow the classic gambling rules is bond to ruin their own lives. Here is an example of small habits of irresponsible gamblers that builds up to massive addiction that eventually ruins their lives and career.

- You spend more than 3 hours every day gambling.
- You use 90% of your income for gambling and the 10% other things.
- When you lose, you bet a bigger amount because you think you will win them again.
- you are loaning money, telling lies, stealing just to fund your gambling habits.

I know the above may look a bit exaggerated but it is what happens. The inability of the gambler develop self control leads to self-destruction equal ruining their lives.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 11, 2024, 05:59:42 AM

My question>>>
* Is gambling really to be blamed about the laundry drug addict guy who engaged in gambling in order to gain more money and afford his drugs?

* Was the political social influencer right to say getting to an end of online sport bets in the app stores and the moderating of gambling would regain back the devalued currency and attracts a growing economy back to the nation a right acceptable and good research?

* Is gambling really to be blamed in ruining lifes?

* In no way can we blame gambling and consider the gambler a victim of it. This is a fallacy that people should realize is wrong.
I will give you an example to understand the extent of the fallacy. When I give you a car and you drive badly and have a serious accident, do we blame the car or its driver for the accident?

* Honestly, I re-read the question several times and could not understand what you wanted to ask about. I'm sorry to tell you that your English is very bad. Please try to rephrase it.

* It can be said that gambling is the reason for ruining the lives of many people, but it cannot be held responsible absolutely. The idea is that no one wakes up one day to find himself addicted to gambling or that gambling is a disease that affects individuals. Every person is responsible for his choices, and therefore falling victim to addiction is the result of a self-decision. This is another example to understand. When someone kills someone using a gun, do we blame the gun and say that it caused the crime?

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