Topic: Drugs fuck you up, man - page 8. (Read 7067 times)

As we know ., drug addiction leads us to live in a terrible life .. We can have some serious health problems but the worst one is Not one of these. . İt is losing one's self - esteem.  This one is the worst..

i dont agree with you i am a well-educated person but i have a drug addiction... i dont see any relation between education level and  addictions..

I pretty much agree with all you have said.  But where's the limit?  Some things simply cannot be allowed, legalized, decriminalized, whatever.

And example is sniffing glue.  We all know that kills brains.  Poisons can not be legalized, right?  So where is the limit?

Except where the government and the mafia are the same thing.  That's a lose lose.  And even if they were not the same, no reason to think that money would be well spent.

No reason at all.

I'm all for decriminalization and legalization, thing is, the government and their cohorts are making tons of profit off of drugs - by keeping the prisons full - state, federal, and private (the private prison industry is HUGE) - every drug arrest ensures another person slapped with a misdemeanor or felony and thrown into the system be it through probation or jail which never ends there. Here in Texas having drug convictions can and will preclude you from being able to rent an apartment in all but the lowest income areas, most decent jobs won't hire someone with a recent drug-related offense, the list goes on... The whole thing is a mess, you've got to really wonder just why the powers that be won't legalize drugs when there is so much profit to be made, obviously there is more money or worth in them keeping them illegal.

The politicians keep the drugs illegal because they want to protect the interests of the drug dealers.

Government is Mafia multiplied a thousand times over.   

Many of the people who are free to use marijuana oil (which can be made at home), have stopped using drugs.

Not legal. Nationalized. They should be produced distributed and controlled only by government. Without any kind of advertising and a good drug education in schools.

This way the money currently helping mafia would be in the hand of the government and would be used to get a better education and healthcare. That's a win win.

Some governments offer free health care, so tax money goes to drug companies indirectly.
Maybe he pointed that out. If there's no free health care then no problem for government.

Taxes go to government, not to drug companies.   

Let there be taxes - at least then those drugs would gain some money instead of governments losing money trying to fight them.

There are two categories, both of legal drugs, and of illegal ones.

Mostly, illegal drugs are the kind you can grow or make at home.

Mostly, the legal kind are drugs that it is difficult to make at home.

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Both kinds of drugs legal and illegal, fall into two categories, the kind that are good for you and the kind that are bad for you.

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The makers of drugs fall into two categories, the pharmacists and their companies, and average people.

The legal drug makers are the shrewd people who want to take your freedom away from you about illegal drugs, so that they can steal your money through legal drugs. They are smart enough to make illegal drugs illegal, so they can capture your health, and hold you hostage for ransom... pay us or you won't get the drugs you need. They are also smart enough to see that some easy-to-make-or-grow drugs are bad for you, and they use this as an excuse to push government into controlling you regarding those drugs.

The illegal drug makers are waking up. They are realizing that they have control over themselves, and that the big drug companies shouldn't be taking their freedom away from them. The example of this is that they are pushing legalization of marijuana. The thing that they should be doing is to get government out of their lives by repealing all the laws regarding illegal drugs, rather than legalizing the drugs.

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People need to understand that legalizing anything simply means that government has control.

Stand up people. Be men and women and get government to repeal all laws that they use to limit your freedom. This way you will be free, not under the thumb of legalization controls.

As examples, if alcohol and gasoline were not legal or illegal, the price would be a lot less because there would be no taxes on them.

I'm not quite sure how to put this, but Casteneda isn't really worth reading.  He was a minor drug cult figure, and produced about 12 books.  There's really no understanding of Mexican culture that can be had from his work, and no real understanding of the old style shaman. 

Certainly it's possible to read about the native American cultures, and come to understand their use of things such as peyote.  But not from Casteneda.

I think you can also enjoying drug when you do it not that much. It can give you for a short time an amazing feeling and a great night. So far alcohol is also really bad for you and that don't looks like an problem to most people.

Bit of an oversimplification, though, to assert that "all drugs" should be made legal.

Legal can be thought of as produced by legitimate businesses with quality control in place, then sold at some type of legitimate store or outlet at prices comparable to street prices (otherwise people buy on the street.)

It's easy to say this regarding the marihuana issues.

I would likely allow legalization of at least some hallucinogenics.  LSD, cactus.  There's certainly a long track record with these and some understanding of them.

What about opiates?  All?  Some?  Why?

What about meth?

Now what about cocaine and crack?

I'm not ignoring that at all, and I agree that drugs should be made legal.  It's an unholy shitfuck of a mess that criminalization has created, and any "war" on drugs is a joke.  But for those who get addicted--and there are going to always be plenty of them, legalization isn't exactly helping them nor is legalization a cure.  And I do have sympathy for addicts, with limits.  Some people are born predisposed to addiction, some are not. 

Once again, you are all ignoring the best solution for this. We should make all sorts of drugs legal. That will reduce the crime rate and gradually the drug consumption rates will also come down. Countries such as Uruguay and Portugal have legalized drugs, and they have witnessed sharp drop in deaths due to drug overdose.

It is bad here in Houston. I had moved away for a few years due to work and when I moved back, nearly everyone I knew was hooked on pain pills, muscle relaxers, or xanax - or a combination of the three. There are a ton of pain clinics here, Houston and Tampa were the two main hubs in the US but they've enacted legislation to try and control the problem but it is still going on. We've got the meth and coke, too. Houston being such a large city and near the border we've got tons of it here - heroin, too - especially since the pills have been made harder to get by the feds, now more people are switching to heroin as it is cheaper and easier to get. I had taken a second job working security at a club a while back and was shocked at the amount of people still doing coke and meth, people who upon first glance you wouldn't even think were drug users. I'm just glad I stopped when I did in my younger days, it may seem fun at first but there is nothing good that comes of it.

I went to school in a small holiday town by the sea. The rave scene took off in the late 80s and most of my little friends became zombies for a good while and good old heroin has always been there waiting in the background. I seem to have known an absurd number of junkies. When I looked in on the same place a few decades on most of them were still at it if they weren't dead or vegetables.

I've never done an illicit drug that had any effect on me so it doesn't compute for me and never will but it is absolutely everywhere. I don't have much sympathy, especially junkies, the evidence of what you'll become is right in front of you when you buy it, but I don't really see the point of criminalising users.

Like anything no drug addict will be able to throw it in unless they actually want to. It's no good feeling that you should. No way I'd ever bother associating with any type of addict any more. Drugs and booze might kill you but the most horrific effect is how fucking tedious they make you.