Topic: DT1 and DT2 members who have negative feedback (or are banned) - page 29. (Read 17754 times)

I somehow doubt it'd get a run in another thread or one I started, but thanks for the reply.

That requirement is only for DT1. Anyone listed in this topic without "DT1" is on DT2. I've updated the topic title to make this more clear.

He's on DT2 with strength 0 (2 inclusions and 2 exclusions from DT1).

Lutpint was showered with Merit when it was introduced, because he received 500 airdropped Merit and was close to Legendary Rank. Shortly after, theymos increased the airdropped Merit for users like him from 500 to 1000.

This would fit in a topic in Meta, not here. But I don't expect any of this to change. How am I going to get rid of 850 source sMerit per month if I can only send 2 at a time?

Random users I assure you...

Lutpin only trusts six users so he's disqualified from DT duties (min ten) if I'm not mistaken?  He also received negative for the multiple occasions of not paying out SigCamp participants for up to ten weeks at a time.  Other Campaign Managers have been totally dragged through the mud so Lutpin has gotten off lightly with just one slap on the wrist.

CryptoImperator hasn't even got a single user on their default trust list, so again they aren't in the race. 

Their two negative trust feedbacks are for manipulating prices, but given both are top 100 most trusted - and both have received obscene merit showers from other users (as well as they seem to be receiving glowing trust feedbacks for selling trinkets) so you probably won't get anyone to sway their opinion on those two.

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My suggestion to @theymos would be any merits given prior to now be adjusted:

• 11 - 50 merits given be adjusted to just two merits
• ten or less merits be adjusted to just just one merit.

Moving forward no more than two merits can be given by one user to another user for one post (and a 24 hour (could be longer) time frame for giving the recipients any further merits).

To save headaches concerning fifty merits becoming just two and the twenty-five merits that could be given out no-longer existing, all merits given stand, just dialled down to either one or two merits.

Merit fonts would have to earn their keep and actually actively search out meritorious posts, or not give merits out at all.  Flattening the curve of obscene numbers of merits given out would quash the brazenness of those who are bumping up their gang members.

Update:

     1. 15728: TECSHARE (Trust: +49 / =6 / -2) (DT1! (2) 838 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. 18321: OgNasty (Trust: +87 / =3 / -4) (DT1! (12) 844 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. 313016: owlcatz (Trust: +47 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (16) 309 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. 982288: Vispilio (Trust: +11 / =2 / -2) (DT1! (0) 890 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. 1016855: JollyGood (Trust: +11 / =1 / -1) (DT1! (1) 610 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. 1668017: anonymousminer (Trust: +37 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (7) 670 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. 30747: Vod (Trust: +26 / =2 / -5) (1517 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. 31931: Anduck (Trust: +19 / =2 / -1) (68 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. 38894: SaltySpitoon (Trust: +25 / =1 / -1) (1075 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. 40976: DeaDTerra (Trust: +3 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. 54113: BCB (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. 65317: bigtimespaghetti (Trust: +24 / =0 / -1) (53 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. 81995: peloso (Trust: +2 / =2 / -2) (151 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. 98986: TMAN (Trust: +30 / =1 / -2) (1302 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. 138940: minifrij (Trust: +14 / =0 / -1) (214 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. 216582: willi9974 (Trust: +8 / =0 / -1) (141 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. 316604: CryptoImperator (Trust: +30 / =1 / -4) (203 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. 370611: bill gator (Trust: +19 / =3 / -9) (542 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. 487377: Kalemder (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (1059 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. 520313: Lutpin (Trust: +33 / =2 / -1) (849 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. 552507: BTCC_Official (Trust: +10 / =2 / -1) (34 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. 585799: lega46141 Banned! (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. 795961: cryptoheadd (Trust: +20 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    24. 982157: tayfundeniz Banned! (Trust:  neutral) (46 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    25. 1228124: jaska Banned! (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (3 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    26. 1831671: ugurum15 Banned! (Trust:  neutral) (22 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Essentially all frivolous ratings. Very good reasons to consider removal.

My exclusion is nothing personal, and I don't do it often. You've improved your Trust list and sent feedback a lot, taking away most of the reasons behind my exclusion. Thanks for that. I'll see how this develops for a few weeks, after that I'll consider removing the exclusion.

You should really read LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system (or Yeni Başlayanlar İçin ⚡ Trust Sistemi Kullanım Kılavuzu)!
It's totally fine to trust someone's judgement without them trusting your judgement. In fact, it would be very strange to only use mutual trust relations, as your judgement is most likely different than their judgement.

I like to think that trusting someone's judgement while they distrust yours is the most sincere form of Trust. As an example, there are 5 users who trust theymos' judgement, while theymos distrusts them:
(Note that I jokingly scall them "backstabbers", as not suggested by suchmoon)

Yes reciprocal conduct is a norm to be fair, we all do it or have done it in the past. Those that have not will no doubt do it in the future.

Lol you a stupid idiot, just as that fucker that neg rated me as racist because saying "jewishly expecting" everyone can see you on your way out of DT aswell and your rating is not only lie but stupid as fuck since I been the same person for 7 years here in bitcoinmunity, where the hell am I an alt? The ratings of the other members are as stupid as yours and... damn I took long to distrust you.

I just can't believe how proofless these ratings are, you are totally pukable.
Don't missunderstand me I couldn't care less about your lying rating, I got 5 ratings for a deaththreat towards a scammer 1 because being racist and 1 because... wait being a alt account for last 6 years on the forum. Ya'll making my negative rate collection quite nice.

Forgot to mention I been waiting for a while for a reason to distrust you, just like I would do with your whole circle but this one is just too funny, proving in my face you just another shithead. Thanks .
Lauda's stupid attempt to make me look untrustworthy was shit and my biz is florishing.

Hi JollyGood
As you will see, I was the only one who trusted their "friends". The majority chose not to trust. I followed my "friends" and removed quite a few members from my trust list.
I will no longer host those who do not trust me in my list.Sense of trust is based on reciprocity.

Thank you for this Loyce. Yes one of them is on strength 3 DT1. They have been trying hard and have been floating around DT for some time as have been several unsavoury characters.


I copied and pasted the Turkish greetings and do not know much else but sure if you want to go down the brother route I am all ears

This is not about me, no this is about the forum and the narrative of the forum should be controlled by the community (not just by one or two individuals) and certainly not by a group of closely aligned members of any language board.

Why was there a desperation on part of you and your friends to get on to DT regardless of how they got there as long as they achieved it? Come on, please be honest... brother


Does this drivel deserve a response in the this thread beyond the excellent use of the trust system I just made by leaving appropriate feedback for you? No

Yall bitching about other people getting in DT claiming a circle is growing when your circle been here doing what it wished for too long. One can easily be kicked out of DT as lauda proved. Bullshit i see in current DT makes me believe it can't be much worst.

Aleykümselam brother You are still in shape
since you will determine how the forum should be, what do we need? You make up your mind, let's apply it like a robot...


http://loyce.club/trust/2020-04-11_Sat_05.25h/1003533.html

My trust list is shortened
I eliminated those who did not use the system
I also eliminated those who do not trust me (I wanted to be worthy of their insecurity)
I also returned to those who added distrust

It is ridiculous to see the Turkish local forum as a gang! we cannot agree even on the simplest of issues

There is almost no participation in the system, it is not only locally, but also globally! In the most crowded trust list @ theymos, a total of around 500 members have trusted. Among these, there may be multiple accounts ...The forum has really lost a lot of blood. Many of the real members are fighting each other!

bitcointalk.org deserves much better.........



will be 2067, still trying to keep old issues on the agenda

Vispilio is on DT2 (with 0 strength), gospodin is on DT1 (strength 3)
Wolwoo (-8) and Blacknavy (-2) are excluded on DT1.

Selam Aleyküm

Merhaba wolwoo

I decided to unIGNORE you for a while just to see if you have changed your notoriously aggressive and profanity laden ways....

My post was not asking why a notoriously difficult individual such as yourself left me negative trust, nor did I ask why your handful of buddies from the Turkish language board added me to their distrust list. Nor did I ask why you and your gang left me revenge feedback. I asked nothing in that post....

I merely stated that when users of your calibre and those of the same ilk from your local language board that added me to their distrust list (some have been part of a merit abuse and fake trust circle) make it to DT by cheating the system then there is something seriously wrong with the system.

The fact you, Vispilio, Blacknavy and gospodin managed to get anywhere near DT shows the system is broken. As for the many others I have not listed, they too should be nowhere near DT too.

Teşekkür ederiz wolwoo

You might find some further information that corresponds with your own investigation in this thread which has independently verified proof of connections within that group via their use of alts and concerning activities etc.

what a strange man you are
you give me negative to everyone
You cry, "why did they give me a negative?"

what we were going to give: rose?

No surprise to see the revenge feedback left for me by the dynamic duo  


Just look at the merit abuse and fake trust circle gang that have made their way on to DT:



When these users are DT it clearly shows something is wrong with the system:

Vispilio
wolwoo
Blacknavy
gospodin

Add to that list the following then it compounds the problem even if at least two of them might have some members that might vouch for them but seriously.....

TECSHARE
figmentofmyass
kzv
ekiller

Update:

     1. 15728: TECSHARE (Trust: +49 / =6 / -1) (DT1! (2) 809 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. 18321: OgNasty (Trust: +87 / =3 / -4) (DT1! (12) 831 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. 313016: owlcatz (Trust: +47 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (16) 309 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. 982288: Vispilio (Trust: +11 / =2 / -2) (DT1! (0) 887 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. 1016855: JollyGood (Trust: +11 / =1 / -1) (DT1! (0) 598 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. 1097370: KTChampions (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (1) 777 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. 1668017: anonymousminer (Trust: +34 / =0 / -1) (DT1! (7) 668 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. 30747: Vod (Trust: +26 / =2 / -5) (1517 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. 31931: Anduck (Trust: +19 / =2 / -1) (68 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. 38894: SaltySpitoon (Trust: +25 / =1 / -1) (1066 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. 40976: DeaDTerra (Trust: +3 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. 54113: BCB (Trust: +6 / =0 / -1) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. 65317: bigtimespaghetti (Trust: +24 / =0 / -1) (53 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. 81995: peloso (Trust: +2 / =2 / -2) (151 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. 98986: TMAN (Trust: +30 / =1 / -2) (1302 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. 138940: minifrij (Trust: +14 / =0 / -1) (214 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. 216582: willi9974 (Trust: +7 / =0 / -1) (135 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. 316604: CryptoImperator (Trust: +30 / =1 / -4) (203 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. 370611: bill gator (Trust: +19 / =3 / -8) (542 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. 520313: Lutpin (Trust: +33 / =2 / -1) (848 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. 552507: BTCC_Official (Trust: +10 / =2 / -1) (34 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. 585799: lega46141 Banned! (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. 795961: cryptoheadd (Trust: +20 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    24. 982157: tayfundeniz Banned! (Trust:  neutral) (46 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    25. 1831671: ugurum15 Banned! (Trust:  neutral) (22 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)