Dubai's Government and Gambling - page 10.

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Lastly, it's just missed revenue for the government. If Dubai could regulate the gambling industry as opposed to actively restricting it, then not only can they save on enforcement costs for their restrictions, but also reap significant taxation revenue from the industry.

It's not possible.

We are aware that in Islamic countries, the government is highly associated not just with political views but with regional views. Gambling is not allowed in these types of countries. There are operating illegally as usual and that was common.

And Dubai doesn't need the gambling industry to become one of their financial resources. They achieved being one of the richest places in the world without it.

That's why they didn't allow any gambling companies working on their territory because its against their religion and they don't need the tax on gambling because so far, the oil can still help them become more rich and they already made a good investments to sustain their economic power.

Don't fall easily on any social media rumors, you have to confirm it first with the authority especially if you're living on a country where gambling is not legal. Some risk taker still gamble illegally, but I don't suggest this one better to be safe than to say sorry later on.

It's not about the gambling that could make them rich or help their economy, it is all about their religion, nothing more to that. Besides, gambling taxes doesn't make a certain country rich at all, they pay a huge tax but the taxes of citizens are still bigger than them of course, that's why the oil revenue is all they needed, no gambling stuff.

Maybe rich people in Dubai go somewhere else where gambling is legal if they really want to gamble because they don't know where to spend their money anymore.

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Quote from: just_Alice on April 27, 2021, 07:44:15 PM

Thanks for the news! It was very hard to believe that a country like UAE, with its strict laws, that are to a great extent based on religious views would allow gambling. Damn, they don't even allow alcohol without a special government-issued license, as far as I know. Now everything makes sense.
Although it's still kind of sad that they prohibit such entertainment, all the while people run much illegal stuff over there, such as money laundering and drug trafficking. I think it would be wiser to focus on those instead.

This is my point of view about Dubai

The only country which is less strict than other countries in the Middle East. Islam is the main religion of Dubai but they are still liberal to an extent. Gambling is considered haram in Islam and alcohol too but you still can get alcohol in Dubai (It is not illegal), therefore I do not know why they are against gambling.

Now about the Fake news.

Fake news cannot be stopped as the Internet cannot be controlled or regulated. The only possible way to know if a news is fake or not is by verifying it. Many gamblers may have fallen for this news therefore always check twice,

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Quote from: Peanutswar on April 28, 2021, 10:32:11 PM

If we are talking about gambling there is a lot of chance there's an under-the-table transaction if there's a restriction with your country. I think also right now it's hard to support or open a gambling casino due to covid situation. Also, there are another form of gambling which is the online base I think they cant restrict this at all even though they have a web browser restriction with the use of their ISP they can use a virtual private network just to play gambling. But the law is law it's too hard to against it.

Is there some evidence that the age average of players in casinos is getting older? So this could be another reason why online gambling gets morre attractiv not just because of covid. Online gambling is also connected to much lower fix costs for the providers.

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If we are talking about gambling there is a lot of chance there's an under-the-table transaction if there's a restriction with your country. I think also right now it's hard to support or open a gambling casino due to covid situation. Also, there are another form of gambling which is the online base I think they cant restrict this at all even though they have a web browser restriction with the use of their ISP they can use a virtual private network just to play gambling. But the law is law it's too hard to against it.

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It's not the end of the world for Dubai citizens though. They can still gamble online and crypto currency is always here to welcome players from restrictive countries.
People just need to resign the glamour and status of physical casinos and content themselves with the simplicity of online gambling, playing from home, without getting undesired attention from others.

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A lot of scammers are appearing lately in social medias and internet with their new scheme, maybe this setup would make you believe that a certain hotel offers this kind of service and if you go there, cops would be waiting for you and might arrest you, yes, the one that recommend such thing to you is the one that could set you up so you guys in Dubai should be extra careful.

And FYI, gambling in any forms in Dubai are not allowed because of their religion, maybe there are hidden casinos but I guess only few people know about it so they can do gambling whenever they want.

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Quote from: 2double0 on April 25, 2021, 01:35:36 PM

Thank you for giving such important information. A friend's son went to Dubai on tourist visa and is actually there for a job. He's too addicted to gambling that wherever he sees a casino, he starts betting (my friend is rich so...). His son was in Europe some time ago but is now in Dubai, I will warn him about this and ask him that if he wants to gamble, he can use online gambling sites instead of gambling on an illegal casino in a hotel there.

According to my experience people like that have a really hard time time recovering from any kind of addiction as their parents do everything they can to enable them, they think they are helping the addict by sending them to expensive retirement centers but at the end of the day those people do not really feel the consequences of their mistakes which is why they keep being addicted, the best thing to do in those cases is to retire the safety net and let them face the consequences of their actions or they will never learn and recover.

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Quote from: just_Alice on April 27, 2021, 07:44:15 PM

Although it's still kind of sad that they prohibit such entertainment, all the while people run much illegal stuff over there, such as money laundering and drug trafficking. I think it would be wiser to focus on those instead.

Much like every country does this illegal stuff but I think this will not be eliminated. I don't know how UAE operates but AFAIK they are that strict to this but I guess it's all just money talks even with this rich country.

Even if that thing is illegal in that country, the government will hard to search for that place since that place is hidden somewhere. The illegal things still happen as it related to the big illegal money around that country. And that illegal money can come from the drug, illegal stuff, and even money launder, so it is hard to prohibit or eradicate.

I think the gambling owner changes the form of gambling into something that will look different from gambling, which can still attract people to gamble in a different form. But we will see it later.

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Quote from: fiulpro on April 25, 2021, 10:24:36 AM

Other than that people in the UAE can actually gamble :
1. They can gamble in offshore casinos (online)
2. Use foreign currency

Since this is not stated in the laws so this is all you guys can try other than that be careful.

They can gamble if they want to whether within the Dubai jurisdiction or outside. But both are strictly prohibited to every citizen of Dubai. That does not mean people in Dubai do not gamble but the Islamic law of Dubai and the UAE prohibits gambling in general. Gambling as far as the Islamic belief is concerned is a big sin. That being said, it does not matter where you are gambling, whether you are gambling at home or on a casino based overseas. It is a violation of their religion.

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Quote from: mv1986 on April 28, 2021, 05:34:55 AM

Quote from: magneto on April 27, 2021, 05:46:52 PM

I really don't see any point in trying to crack down on the domestic gaming industry instead of actively trying to regulate it.

Firstly, black market gambling joints are always going to pop up. We know that it's human nature to gamble, and as long as there is local demand, there will be supply regardless of what sort of restrictions are in place.

Secondly, offshore/online gambling sites are simply going to replace local joints for the interested gamblers.

Lastly, it's just missed revenue for the government. If Dubai could regulate the gambling industry as opposed to actively restricting it, then not only can they save on enforcement costs for their restrictions, but also reap significant taxation revenue from the industry.

Different opinions based on different assumptions from country to country. In Dubai they may have to consider religious aspects, which they often do when it comes to political decisions and regulation. They need to stay authentic in public. While taking away human rights based on religious beliefs, how can they stay authentic when they allow gambling and alcohol at the same time?

Dubai is in a trap ad I guess they themselves don't like it as their is so much emancipation going on all over the world.

Or its just a pain in the ass to regulate, so they just push it out of their country like that. Pretty easy solution imo. As for illegal ones, as long as they crackdown on the ones that were shown in public, those illegal ones that weren't discovered are able to freely do it as long as there's a hole in the government. They could even collect the profits in their own pockets that way, plus no problems in trying to manage the public about gambling control and whatnot.

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Quote from: Kittygalore on April 28, 2021, 02:48:03 AM

Quote from: just_Alice on April 27, 2021, 07:44:15 PM

Thanks for the news! It was very hard to believe that a country like UAE, with its strict laws, that are to a great extent based on religious views would allow gambling. Damn, they don't even allow alcohol without a special government-issued license, as far as I know. Now everything makes sense.
Although it's still kind of sad that they prohibit such entertainment, all the while people run much illegal stuff over there, such as money laundering and drug trafficking. I think it would be wiser to focus on those instead.

There are other ways to be entertained, as if gambling is the only one that can make someone entertained. Even if they focus on illegal things, there is only so much that they can do and it isn't sad because that's just how their religion dictated state is, if something is prohibited then it should be prohibited.

we have social media and online games to keep us company but this is not enough to the person that grows with gambling and they will find a way to sneak and illegaly gamble .
is it true that thier laws are connected to thier religion but what if someone will transfer to a different religion .
can that be a solution to make gambling legal again ?

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Quote from: mv1986 on April 28, 2021, 05:34:55 AM

Different opinions based on different assumptions from country to country. In Dubai they may have to consider religious aspects, which they often do when it comes to political decisions and regulation. They need to stay authentic in public. While taking away human rights based on religious beliefs, how can they stay authentic when they allow gambling and alcohol at the same time?

Dubai is in a trap ad I guess they themselves don't like it as their is so much emancipation going on all over the world.

The gulf nations are being faced with a crisis since the oil prices are down. Their population is increasing and the governments are finding it increasingly difficult to balance the budget solely from the oil revenue. The cheap labor in which they were dependent is also not so "cheap" anymore. Therefore they are exploring sectors such as tourism. Even Saudi Arabia recently stated that they want to expand their tourism sector. Let's see how it goes.

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Quote from: just_Alice on April 27, 2021, 07:44:15 PM

Although it's still kind of sad that they prohibit such entertainment, all the while people run much illegal stuff over there, such as money laundering and drug trafficking. I think it would be wiser to focus on those instead.

Much like every country does this illegal stuff but I think this will not be eliminated. I don't know how UAE operates but AFAIK they are that strict to this but I guess it's all just money talks even with this rich country.

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Quote from: magneto on April 27, 2021, 05:46:52 PM

I really don't see any point in trying to crack down on the domestic gaming industry instead of actively trying to regulate it.

Firstly, black market gambling joints are always going to pop up. We know that it's human nature to gamble, and as long as there is local demand, there will be supply regardless of what sort of restrictions are in place.

Secondly, offshore/online gambling sites are simply going to replace local joints for the interested gamblers.

Lastly, it's just missed revenue for the government. If Dubai could regulate the gambling industry as opposed to actively restricting it, then not only can they save on enforcement costs for their restrictions, but also reap significant taxation revenue from the industry.

Different opinions based on different assumptions from country to country. In Dubai they may have to consider religious aspects, which they often do when it comes to political decisions and regulation. They need to stay authentic in public. While taking away human rights based on religious beliefs, how can they stay authentic when they allow gambling and alcohol at the same time?

Dubai is in a trap ad I guess they themselves don't like it as their is so much emancipation going on all over the world.

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Quote from: fiulpro on April 25, 2021, 10:24:36 AM

According to Social Media Rumors People did think that the Dubai Government was apparently approving and giving license to various hotels for Gambling. But as it turns out the news was indeed false.
*Therefore if there is a person living in Dubai who was indeed fooled by this should realize that no hotel does own a legal license and be safe, be careful and stay away from such scams*

Plus they also have a hefty fine. Therefore if you were to engage with such hotels you would loose a lot more definitely!!

Other than that people in the UAE can actually gamble :
1. They can gamble in offshore casinos (online)
2. Use foreign currency

Since this is not stated in the laws so this is all you guys can try other than that be careful.

News like this should come from reliable sources coming from the spokesperson of agency that's supervising gambling in Dubai and there should be a press release, it's too risky believing from an unreliable source because we all know that Dubai is Muslim country and this might put you in big trouble, this is a serious offence, some countries are flagging people who are caught gambling where gambling is prohibited.

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Quote from: just_Alice on April 27, 2021, 07:44:15 PM

Thanks for the news! It was very hard to believe that a country like UAE, with its strict laws, that are to a great extent based on religious views would allow gambling. Damn, they don't even allow alcohol without a special government-issued license, as far as I know. Now everything makes sense.
Although it's still kind of sad that they prohibit such entertainment, all the while people run much illegal stuff over there, such as money laundering and drug trafficking. I think it would be wiser to focus on those instead.

There are other ways to be entertained, as if gambling is the only one that can make someone entertained. Even if they focus on illegal things, there is only so much that they can do and it isn't sad because that's just how their religion dictated state is, if something is prohibited then it should be prohibited.

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Dubai is an Open country right? so why until now Gambling is still prohibited ? But Liquor are available at some part.
Well it is their Laws and we must follow their rules and lucky that i'm not from Dubai nor working from there but some of my friends are base and living there.

Quote from: Xinarae* on April 26, 2021, 06:25:49 PM

There are currently no physical and legal online casinos in Dubai. Online gambling is banned in Dubai because the UAE follows Islamic law which considers gambling a sin so the local government has banned all gambling also residents and visitors could face heavy fines or jail time if they engage in any illegal activity online gambling is not under government control. If casino gambling becomes legal in Dubai it will not be able to collect any government taxes.

Yeah that's why gamblers only played secretly and illegally , that's the bad attitude but what people can do when they are really inclined in gambling.

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Quote from: chaser15 on April 27, 2021, 05:51:39 PM

It's not possible.

We are aware that in Islamic countries, the government is highly associated not just with political views but with regional views. Gambling is not allowed in these types of countries. There are operating illegally as usual and that was common.

And Dubai doesn't need the gambling industry to become one of their financial resources. They achieved being one of the richest places in the world without it.

It depends on interpretation of the law. If Islamic law doesn't allow gambling, then how come it is allowed in Muslim countries such as Morocco, Malaysia, Bosnia and Turkey? In Turkey, even prostitution is legal. Now Turkey is almost 100% Muslim, and they have hardly any non-Muslim minorities living in the territory. On the other end, we have conservative Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan, where the women can't go out of their home alone.

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Thanks for the news! It was very hard to believe that a country like UAE, with its strict laws, that are to a great extent based on religious views would allow gambling. Damn, they don't even allow alcohol without a special government-issued license, as far as I know. Now everything makes sense.
Although it's still kind of sad that they prohibit such entertainment, all the while people run much illegal stuff over there, such as money laundering and drug trafficking. I think it would be wiser to focus on those instead.

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Quote from: chaser15 on April 27, 2021, 05:51:39 PM

Quote from: magneto on April 27, 2021, 05:46:52 PM

Lastly, it's just missed revenue for the government. If Dubai could regulate the gambling industry as opposed to actively restricting it, then not only can they save on enforcement costs for their restrictions, but also reap significant taxation revenue from the industry.

It's not possible.

We are aware that in Islamic countries, the government is highly associated not just with political views but with regional views. Gambling is not allowed in these types of countries. There are operating illegally as usual and that was common.

And Dubai doesn't need the gambling industry to become one of their financial resources. They achieved being one of the richest places in the world without it.

That's why they didn't allow any gambling companies working on their territory because its against their religion and they don't need the tax on gambling because so far, the oil can still help them become more rich and they already made a good investments to sustain their economic power.

Don't fall easily on any social media rumors, you have to confirm it first with the authority especially if you're living on a country where gambling is not legal. Some risk taker still gamble illegally, but I don't suggest this one better to be safe than to say sorry later on.

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