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Quote from: DuckDice.io on July 21, 2017, 06:19:13 AM

gial1949:

please drop your racist posts, even though we are not from India you should be very much aware that India is a huge country and have lots of great specialists and this post of yours may sounds offensive to other participants of this thread.

Regarding the bonuses, current bonus campaign will be over soon, no Bonuses - no accusations. And as for now, for those who don't have an intention to clear the bonus please, don't claim it!

DuckDice will run a new bonus campaign in the next months with all new conditions and rules, we will announce all the details here.

Also, complete DuckDice redesign will be released next month alongside new Bonuses.

And just to remind, DuckDice never scammed anyone and we have zero history of manipulations or withdrawal issues.

Sad to see this site's reputation get destroyed by their one mistake.
Probably duckdice should refund the customer so there won't be any more issues with their bonuses.
This is what I hate about bonuses, the terms and conditions are all too complicated to understand.
Though I think it has always been that way since it was introduced.

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Quote from: Lutpin on July 21, 2017, 04:05:13 AM

Quote from: kolesozw on July 21, 2017, 03:50:06 AM

Without any proofs, your words are useless.
I've only seen innovations from DuckDice on one very boring market.

Read a few pages back, check the scam accusation or their feedback.

Scam accusations are regarding deposit bonus, the rules may be harsh but the issue is with the user who didn't read a warning messages and canceled his bonus.
How can you actually call it scam, we have our Bonuses already for about 9 months and we have MANY users winning big with our bonus and we always paying out. It's almost a loan you just need to follow the rules and be a bit attentive, how can you even call it a scam? Bonuses are not a core feature, if you don't want to take them, you don't have to. And we have a whole mod team who is great in unlocking bonuses, they would be more than happy to explain in details how it works and even give some hints.

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gial1949:

please drop your racist posts, even though we are not from India you should be very much aware that India is a huge country and have lots of great specialists and this post of yours may sounds offensive to other participants of this thread.

Regarding the bonuses, current bonus campaign will be over soon, no Bonuses - no accusations. And as for now, for those who don't have an intention to clear the bonus please, don't claim it!

DuckDice will run a new bonus campaign in the next months with all new conditions and rules, we will announce all the details here.

Also, complete DuckDice redesign will be released next month alongside new Bonuses.

And just to remind, DuckDice never scammed anyone and we have zero history of manipulations or withdrawal issues.

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Goodbye, Z.

Quote from: kolesozw on July 21, 2017, 03:50:06 AM

Without any proofs, your words are useless.
I've only seen innovations from DuckDice on one very boring market.

Read a few pages back, check the scam accusation or their feedback.

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Quote from: gial1949 on July 21, 2017, 02:10:37 AM

Website is run by a Indian scammer .Dont waste your money with them

Without any proofs, your words are useless.

I've only seen innovations from DuckDice on one very boring market.

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Website is run by a scammer .Dont waste your money with them

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You offer to cancel the bonus, but then in reality you cancel the whole balance inclusive deposit and winnings and this is the criminal offense of false representation!

2 Fraud by false representation

(1) A person is in breach of this section if he—

(a) dishonestly makes a false representation, and

(b) intends, by making the representation—

(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or

(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.

(2) A representation is false if—

(a) it is untrue or misleading, and

(b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.

(3) “Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of—

(a) the person making the representation, or

(b) any other person.

(4) A representation may be express or implied.

(5) For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention).

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Goodbye, Z.

Quote from: 1982dre on July 21, 2017, 01:04:31 AM

A bonus with dice is different then a different then other casino games. You have to prevent that users can make a loop. As said before, I don't know if this is the best way but this is how it works now. If an user don't read all the pop-ups on cancelling, it isn't the site who is scamming.

I disagree. You clearly scammed them.
Displaying a notice and making the user agree to this doesn't make it right. Once they accepted the bonus, there was no other way.
The cancel feature is a joke and I'm surprised this didn't cause issues earlier.
Reason it however you like, the way things are right now is wrong.

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Quote from: 1982dre on July 21, 2017, 01:04:31 AM

A bonus with dice is different then a different then other casino games.

How? In dice bonus, does it gives the right to site owners to take away the deposit of user just because they think user can make a loop?

Quote from: 1982dre on July 21, 2017, 01:04:31 AM

You have to prevent that users can make a loop.

That can be achieved by ethical way as well. We already discussed it in scam accusation thread that taking the deposit is unethical .

Quote from: 1982dre on July 21, 2017, 01:04:31 AM

As said before, I don't know if this is the best way but this is how it works now. If an user don't read all the pop-ups on cancelling, it isn't the site who is scamming.

That seems likes dice should be avoided which doesn't knows what is fair and what is not.

Quote from: actmyname on July 21, 2017, 01:09:24 AM

-snip-
Don't punish the player for something a cheater may or may not do.

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Quote from: 1982dre on July 21, 2017, 01:04:31 AM

A bonus with dice is different then a different then other casino games. You have to prevent that users can make a loop. As said before, I don't know if this is the best way but this is how it works now. If an user don't read all the pop-ups on cancelling, it isn't the site who is scamming.

Already talked about how your system is unfair. Tell me why this is not unfair. Even when you want to prevent cheating, I think this is a pretty unethical practice. Don't punish the player for something a cheater may or may not do.

Quote from: actmyname on July 20, 2017, 11:25:37 PM

Quote from: jamyr on July 20, 2017, 02:45:48 PM

they actually warn people asking about the 'bonus conditions' that these bonuses are hard to unlock but advance players can(see older pages of this thread), I know somebody who was able to unlock it not only once.

But the conditions weren't in the terms. And if my hypothesis that profit adds to the locked balance but losses don't subtract from it is correct, then you're in a catch-22 as soon as you raise it past your balance.

That makes it so that you are literally forced to gamble or forfeit your balance altogether.

Rules

Is that anywhere there? The answer is no.

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Quote from: moooonu on July 21, 2017, 12:47:03 AM

Quote from: Lutpin on July 20, 2017, 11:32:09 PM

Quote from: jamyr on July 20, 2017, 02:45:48 PM

Quote from: actmyname on July 20, 2017, 02:06:56 PM

If they simply made the bonus conditions such that one wagered their own balance before the bonus, then all would be well and this situation would be over.

But I don't think the one who 'lost' his balance would agree without getting anything

But they didn't lose, they won.
The only mistake the user made was trying to cancel their bonus.
Now I understand taking away the bonus when it's canceled, I also understand taking away profit made from the bonus.
But taking away the initial deposit as well? Now that's a bit harsh.

Indeed my point is same. Taking away initial deposit is just not fair at all. That's some shady thing they have done.

A bonus with dice is different then a different then other casino games. You have to prevent that users can make a loop. As said before, I don't know if this is the best way but this is how it works now. If an user don't read all the pop-ups on cancelling, it isn't the site who is scamming.

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Quote from: Lutpin on July 20, 2017, 11:32:09 PM

Quote from: jamyr on July 20, 2017, 02:45:48 PM

Quote from: actmyname on July 20, 2017, 02:06:56 PM

If they simply made the bonus conditions such that one wagered their own balance before the bonus, then all would be well and this situation would be over.

But I don't think the one who 'lost' his balance would agree without getting anything

But they didn't lose, they won.
The only mistake the user made was trying to cancel their bonus.
Now I understand taking away the bonus when it's canceled, I also understand taking away profit made from the bonus.
But taking away the initial deposit as well? Now that's a bit harsh.

Indeed my point is same. Taking away initial deposit is just not fair at all. That's some shady thing they have done.

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Goodbye, Z.

Quote from: jamyr on July 20, 2017, 02:45:48 PM

Quote from: actmyname on July 20, 2017, 02:06:56 PM

If they simply made the bonus conditions such that one wagered their own balance before the bonus, then all would be well and this situation would be over.

But I don't think the one who 'lost' his balance would agree without getting anything

But they didn't lose, they won.
The only mistake the user made was trying to cancel their bonus.
Now I understand taking away the bonus when it's canceled, I also understand taking away profit made from the bonus.
But taking away the initial deposit as well? Now that's a bit harsh.

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Quote from: jamyr on July 20, 2017, 02:45:48 PM

they actually warn people asking about the 'bonus conditions' that these bonuses are hard to unlock but advance players can(see older pages of this thread), I know somebody who was able to unlock it not only once.

But the conditions weren't in the terms. And if my hypothesis that profit adds to the locked balance but losses don't subtract from it is correct, then you're in a catch-22 as soon as you raise it past your balance.

That makes it so that you are literally forced to gamble or forfeit your balance altogether.

Rules

Is that anywhere there? The answer is no.

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Nice bonus suggestions @actmyname,

Quote from: actmyname on July 20, 2017, 02:06:56 PM

If they simply made the bonus conditions such that one wagered their own balance before the bonus, then all would be well and this situation would be over.

But I don't think the one who 'lost' his balance would agree without getting anything

You see, in my opinion they don't force everyone to activate a bonus, and as far as I have observed from them, they actually warn people asking about the 'bonus conditions' that these bonuses are hard to unlock but advance players can(see older pages of this thread), I know somebody who was able to unlock it not only once.

P.S.

You may find my comment stupid, but I ''think before I click''. c,'')

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Quote from: jamyr on July 20, 2017, 02:04:37 PM

Duckdice have answered in the scam-accusation thread and have been open to ideas of the community. Nothing more to talk about a player who failed to read the pop-up message.

Indeed more to talk about.

DuckDice sent me a PM to which I had responded 2 days ago. They have yet to reply to my concerns.

Quote from: actmyname on July 18, 2017, 03:15:21 PM

Quote from: DuckDice.io on July 18, 2017, 10:11:36 AM

Hey man,

you had many interesting insights on how bonuses should work, what is your site actually?

I don't have one.

Quote from: DuckDice.io on July 18, 2017, 10:11:36 AM

and a few words regarding the scam topic, this one is a bit of a principle position because the guy tried to blackmail us from the first second and honestly speaking we don't believe that he missed a confirmation screen, so the only answer here is that he knew exact amount to subtracted but wanted to do it anyway and get a full refund later.
We don't want to make such precedent.

Supposing that the 'locked balance' only counts positive profit and not losses, if one, for example, loses and gains 1 BTC upon a 1 BTC deposit and bonus, then will the locked balance then show 2 BTC?

If this is what you are suggesting then I find it illogical. The locked balance should count both profit and loss. After all, at the end of it, you're not unlocking the 'locked balance' but rather the player balance at the time. There was already another idea mentioned, where one wagers their own balance first. That would be superior to this in terms of how bonuses work.

Consider the following:

A random player deposits 1 BTC and chooses the 120% bonus. The wagering requirement is 132 BTC.
The player chooses 0.25 BTC bets, winning 16 times and losing 20.

That is a gross profit of 4 BTC and a net loss of 1 BTC.

The player is left with 1.2 BTC and decides to bet 1 BTC to break even. They win.

Gross profit: 5 BTC | Net loss: 0 BTC

The player sees the locked balance at 5 BTC. They are now forced to play. That's unfair.

Quote from: DuckDice.io on July 18, 2017, 10:11:36 AM

If he would just agree to make one more deposit (we actually never asked to deposit 5btc, anything above 0.01btc is eligible) we would've just add his amount as a bonus as a "consolation".

You couldn't have reverted anything to back when the bonus was active?

If they simply made the bonus conditions such that one wagered their own balance before the bonus, then all would be well and this situation would be over.

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Quote from: moooonu on July 20, 2017, 07:17:15 AM

Quote from: DuckDice.io on July 19, 2017, 07:43:53 AM

The Last Man Standing #game is scheduled on 14:00 UTC, signup here!

GOOD LUCK!

Hey I just saw you got negative feedback. That isn't good at all for the site. Short out the matter asap(just a suggestion).

Duckdice have answered in the scam-accusation thread and have been open to ideas of the community. Nothing more to talk about a player who failed to read the pop-up message.

Regarding the game 'the last man standing', why not change it to the last duck quacking. LoL

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Quote from: DuckDice.io on July 19, 2017, 07:43:53 AM

The Last Man Standing #game is scheduled on 14:00 UTC, signup here!

GOOD LUCK!

Hey I just saw you got negative feedback. That isn't good at all for the site. Short out the matter asap(just a suggestion).

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Quote from: 1982dre on July 15, 2017, 02:34:20 PM

Quote from: Ozafejyw782 on July 15, 2017, 01:43:15 PM

I am the biggest winner in duckdice.io Their shady feature made me cancel my 9 BITCOIN balance and the admin didn't help.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/duckdiceio-scam-and-shady-behavior-2022797

So you cancelled the bonus without reading the warning ?? What did you expect? That you got your original deposit?? If they do that everyone just wager the bonus and cancel when they don't hit big and withdraw on deposit again and try again.

This is not matter of playing again or not but what I do know here, usually there is some notification if they want to cancel their bonus. It is like pop up message said that if you cancel it you will lose all your balance. It just like locked our balance thorugh your site. So people will think twice before they want to cancel it. But on this site I do not saw anything like that may be you should add this notifications

Btw on this matter, I can say the ToS tricks people too and Ojafejw did not even asking about it. May be OP need to clear something here before issues spread

Yeah, adding more detail terms about the "bonus cancellation" will be good for both players and duckdice. Terms like what will happen if a player decide to cancel the bonus when....(may happen in some scenarios)
One more thing that I missed from this deposit bonus terms, if a player take the bonus so which balance will be used first? The initial deposit first or the bonus first?

Yeah that is true but usually people are not even take a look into their ToS, this is where some sites will take the advantages and try to even scam for big win from the site.

About your question, I think you will get 120% overall and when it comes to use it, usually you will use up your real balance first then the bonus. But in this case you need to wagered X amount and if cancel it you will lose both of it. So I think no matter which balance is used first you will never get your money back unless you complete the wagering requirement

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