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Topic: ✅ DuckDice.io 🎲 Rakeback 🎲 Races 🎲 Faucet 🎲 Deposit Bonus 🎲 Jackpot 🎲 - page 127. (Read 119412 times)

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Spear the bees
doesn't seem like they're going to remove the neg trust... we might have to give em some positive trust?

I've played here a bit with no issues in withdrawals.

It should remain a stain on their account.

The issue at hand should have been resolved long ago in QA instead of months later when someone complains -- even in that regard the problem should have been taken care of instead of calling the gambler a terrorist who intended for a "scandal" to occur.
hero member
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Quote from: Duckdice.io scam
Your Balance will be locked while bonus is active. You can cancel bonus at any time.
Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance.
According to your terms, the bonus was not part of his balance, so the 5 BTC win was solely generated by his 2 BTC deposit.

55x wagering requirement of 2 BTC bonus = 110 BTC to wager. Minus 23% (25 BTC) already wagered = 85 BTC left to wager to get the 2 BTC bonus

1% house edge of 85 BTC to wager = 0.85 BTC loss.  

So if you restore his account balance of 9 BTC (2 BTC deposit + 5 BTC win + 2 BTC bonus) and he will wager the required 85 BTC to get the bonus, he will statistically lose 0.85 BTC and his account will be statistically 8.15 BTC instead of the only 2 BTC deposit you gave him!

Nope, I do not think that they really need to pay him 7 btc, because he started with 2 btc, no matter they win or lose the only way to get this fair is to give him back what balance he start deposit. This is like he resetting their amount back to the start, so everything will be no affect on it anymore, this is seems fairly to him. I think duckdice red tagged should clear right now

Exactly, I don't think that they should pay him 7 BTC, Duckdice is kind enough to give back his 2 BTC, it was his own fault, and wait? game-protect? statistically? Gambling is still gambling, there's a chance for him to win more or even lose the entire balance. Duckdice is a very good site with great potential, I think the red tagged should now be cleared.
Based on what was it his own fault to click the |Cancel Bonus| button?

Yes, he can win more or he can lose, but statistically he will only lose 0.85 BTC until the bonus is cleared and he has all rights to clear the bonus!

Duckdice was kind enough to call him a terrorist? How destroyed must be a brain if someone believes that calling the victim a terrorist is kind enough?!?

A new site faced with my signature and google "duckdice.io scam" = first page and third entry or google "duckdice.io" = first page and sixth entry never can have any potential to grow!

To grow, even though a scam, they will need an army of signature campaign promoters like the betcoin.ag scam has. Google "betcoin.ag scam" = first page and first entry  Wink
full member
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doesn't seem like they're going to remove the neg trust... we might have to give em some positive trust?

I've played here a bit with no issues in withdrawals.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
Quote from: Duckdice.io scam
Your Balance will be locked while bonus is active. You can cancel bonus at any time.
Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance.
According to your terms, the bonus was not part of his balance, so the 5 BTC win was solely generated by his 2 BTC deposit.

55x wagering requirement of 2 BTC bonus = 110 BTC to wager. Minus 23% (25 BTC) already wagered = 85 BTC left to wager to get the 2 BTC bonus

1% house edge of 85 BTC to wager = 0.85 BTC loss.  

So if you restore his account balance of 9 BTC (2 BTC deposit + 5 BTC win + 2 BTC bonus) and he will wager the required 85 BTC to get the bonus, he will statistically lose 0.85 BTC and his account will be statistically 8.15 BTC instead of the only 2 BTC deposit you gave him!

Nope, I do not think that they really need to pay him 7 btc, because he started with 2 btc, no matter they win or lose the only way to get this fair is to give him back what balance he start deposit. This is like he resetting their amount back to the start, so everything will be no affect on it anymore, this is seems fairly to him. I think duckdice red tagged should clear right now

Exactly, I don't think that they should pay him 7 BTC, Duckdice is kind enough to give back his 2 BTC, it was his own fault, and wait? game-protect? statistically? Gambling is still gambling, there's a chance for him to win more or even lose the entire balance. Duckdice is a very good site with great potential, I think the red tagged should now be cleared.
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EXMR
Those who lost bitcoins on this site just because of their own faults should not blame site for this.
It looks like the one who have lost bitcoin due to confusion he had with the bonus terms of duckdice have created scam accusation against duckdice, when that will settle down duckdice might gain their trust back. But for me duckdice is trusted because I don't claim any types of bonus in dice sites so whatever terms they have about bonus will not effect me.

(However, I haven't gone deeply through that scam accusation against duckdice)
duckdice.io had been good since they lauch,in fact they are one of the fastest growing gambling sites (credit to all its admins for their hardwork).what happen with that player is a an isolated case which is basically not a site mistake.
copper member
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Goodbye, Z.
I don’t know why people like to spread negative things about most popular things. Those who lost bitcoins on this site just because of their own faults should not blame site for this.
Spreading negative things is what brought the user their 2BTC back. 2BTC they did not lose and that should not have been taken from them.
I take that as a win.
legendary
Activity: 966
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Those who lost bitcoins on this site just because of their own faults should not blame site for this.
It looks like the one who have lost bitcoin due to confusion he had with the bonus terms of duckdice have created scam accusation against duckdice, when that will settle down duckdice might gain their trust back. But for me duckdice is trusted because I don't claim any types of bonus in dice sites so whatever terms they have about bonus will not effect me.

(However, I haven't gone deeply through that scam accusation against duckdice)
hero member
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how people can say about this site as scam, this site is one of the most trusted sites i ever know, never have problems with bonus or deposits or withdrawals, so if some one don´t want to play with a bonus just dont claim it and it´s done, why allways make a problem for little things..

cheers!!
I don’t know why people like to spread negative things about most popular things. This site is trustworthy. Many people have been earning bitcoins from this website without any fraud. Site is highly reliable and there’s not even a single report of this site being scam or fraud. Those who lost bitcoins on this site just because of their own faults should not blame site for this.
sr. member
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★Bitvest.io★ Play Plinko or Invest!
Quote from: Duckdice.io scam
Your Balance will be locked while bonus is active. You can cancel bonus at any time.
Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance.
According to your terms, the bonus was not part of his balance, so the 5 BTC win was solely generated by his 2 BTC deposit.

55x wagering requirement of 2 BTC bonus = 110 BTC to wager. Minus 23% (25 BTC) already wagered = 85 BTC left to wager to get the 2 BTC bonus

1% house edge of 85 BTC to wager = 0.85 BTC loss.  

So if you restore his account balance of 9 BTC (2 BTC deposit + 5 BTC win + 2 BTC bonus) and he will wager the required 85 BTC to get the bonus, he will statistically lose 0.85 BTC and his account will be statistically 8.15 BTC instead of the only 2 BTC deposit you gave him!

Nope, I do not think that they really need to pay him 7 btc, because he started with 2 btc, no matter they win or lose the only way to get this fair is to give him back what balance he start deposit. This is like he resetting their amount back to the start, so everything will be no affect on it anymore, this is seems fairly to him. I think duckdice red tagged should clear right now

Don't take game-protect comments very seriously. The guy just jump in every opportunity to advertise his service that his very own trust rating reflects.
legendary
Activity: 1834
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Quote from: Duckdice.io scam
Your Balance will be locked while bonus is active. You can cancel bonus at any time.
Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance.
According to your terms, the bonus was not part of his balance, so the 5 BTC win was solely generated by his 2 BTC deposit.

55x wagering requirement of 2 BTC bonus = 110 BTC to wager. Minus 23% (25 BTC) already wagered = 85 BTC left to wager to get the 2 BTC bonus

1% house edge of 85 BTC to wager = 0.85 BTC loss.  

So if you restore his account balance of 9 BTC (2 BTC deposit + 5 BTC win + 2 BTC bonus) and he will wager the required 85 BTC to get the bonus, he will statistically lose 0.85 BTC and his account will be statistically 8.15 BTC instead of the only 2 BTC deposit you gave him!

Nope, I do not think that they really need to pay him 7 btc, because he started with 2 btc, no matter they win or lose the only way to get this fair is to give him back what balance he start deposit. This is like he resetting their amount back to the start, so everything will be no affect on it anymore, this is seems fairly to him. I think duckdice red tagged should clear right now
sr. member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 276
★Bitvest.io★ Play Plinko or Invest!
this issue still isn't solved? oh boy...
i really liked duck dice was a cool site. Sad

what are you guys talking about, we've closed our bonuses  (https://duckdice.io/bonuses) and reworking algorithm, we also refunded the initial deposit fully.

Which is the proper thing to do. I hope people who gave you guys negative feedback would be fair to adjust the ratings to neutral at least.
sr. member
Activity: 1338
Merit: 253
this issue still isn't solved? oh boy...
i really liked duck dice was a cool site. Sad

what are you guys talking about, we've closed our bonuses  (https://duckdice.io/bonuses) and reworking algorithm, we also refunded the initial deposit fully.
sr. member
Activity: 1338
Merit: 253
please explain i want to know sir.the telegram duckdice bot only gives faucet 250 sats,why not up to 2000 sats? often I play in telegram you have a bot very glad sir

please read https://duckdice.io/faq#faucetamount
full member
Activity: 324
Merit: 100
this issue still isn't solved? oh boy...
i really liked duck dice was a cool site. Sad
hero member
Activity: 1344
Merit: 507
You only lose your whole balance if you are unlocking for a while. If you unlock after a few bets, you just lose a little amount.
If I unlock for a while, is it stated "cancel your bonus" or is it stated "cancel your whole balance"?

Why would anyone agree to cancel his whole balance? If you continue to play nothing worse than exactly this can happen!
Got you here, because even after for a while it is still stated Cancel Bonus and not Cancel whole Balance!

Correct because if you cancel the bonus after two rolls you won't lose your whole balance. Just a small amount.
Are you not able to understand that it is the criminal offense of fraud to ask me to cancel my 2 BTC bonus and then cancel my whole balance of 7 BTC?


The locked balance is getting bigger while rolling.
So the more I play, the more rake I pay to your house, the more money you will steal from my balance? Cheesy


So get your stats right first before starting such sad site  Cheesy
While Game Protect is indeed a sad site for shady criminals like you, I have no idea what is wrong with my stats?

If you put "duckdice.io scam" into google = first page and second entry = good stats  Smiley


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20368185

1. we've disabled deposit bonuses and currently working on a new algorithm based on your feedback and a new detailed and clear bonus policy.

2. we've refunded the initial deposit to Ozafejyw782 (it's already on a balance). There were people mentioning that we should revert the balance to the moment before cancellation – and this would be the easiest and acceptable solution for everyone, however (unfortunately) this is not technically possible, we just don't have this possibility.

So we believe now this issue has been resolved.
Wrong belief!

He clicked the |Cancel Bonus| button and never agreed to cancel his whole balance and therefore your move is juridical not valid and you have to restore his account like it was prior to clicking your fake |Cancel Bonus| button.

If you can not do this technically, then this is your fault and you have to give him 8.15 BTC or at least his 2 BTC deposit and his 5 BTC winnings.

Quote from: Duckdice.io scam
Your Balance will be locked while bonus is active. You can cancel bonus at any time.
Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance.
1) According to your terms, the bonus was not part of his balance, so the 5 BTC win was solely based on his 2 BTC deposit.

2) 55x wagering of 2 BTC bonus = 110 BTC minus 23% (25 BTC) already wagered = 85 BTC left to wager to get the 2 BTC bonus

1% house edge of 85 BTC to wager = 0.85 BTC loss.  

So if you restore his account balance of 9 BTC (2 BTC deposit + 5 BTC win + 2 BTC bonus) and he will wager the required 85 BTC to get the bonus, he will statistically lose 0.85 BTC and his account balance will be statistically 8.15 BTC instead of the only 2 BTC deposit you gave him!
newbie
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think you should contact the people who gave your account negative trust and ask them to remove it
update the FAQ and the site's info about the promotion,too
by the way,I managed to unlock the bonus,it was just a test 0.01 I think,but took a lot of time and effort
and I was very close to cancelling it,completely sure that I would get my deposit back and that it would remove just the bonus+the winnings
 

It took a lot of time and effort to unlock the bonus, but at least it is possible to unlock it with reasonable requirement. It is challenging and fun, I see nothing wrong with their bonus terms as I was able to cancelled the bonus and took back my balance with some deduction of my balance which I lose while playing the game. Which means their bonus algorithm was wagering the player balance first before the bonus, most casino did the same. Except the terms was was not clear enough and thus confuse some of the players.
  
Maybe they can simply change their terms to these, to avoid any problems in the future.

1. The bonus will be locked at the beginning.
2. Bonus will be unlocked for player when player balance has lose their own balance.
(So that the player can continue to complete the wagering requirement using the bonus.)
3. When a bonus is active, withdrawal will be disabled.
3. Bonus can be cancelled at anytime, thus player will be able to withdraw their own balance at anytime. But any winning will be forfeited.
(Some player may wish to withdraw their balance instead of being force to complete the requirement, thus a cancel function is require for them)

Note* Only bonus balance is being locked here, players are using their real balance to place the bet, thus losing bet will result in the deduction of their real balance. Since it is a bonus, any winning (if there is any) should be forfeited, otherwise it is not fair to those who didn't claim the bonus OR maybe all players will claim the bonus.

Example: Player A claimed the bonus, win and get profits, he/she decided to cancel the bonus and withdraw the winning. Player B who didn't claim the bonus, win and get profits, withdraw. Both of them win and get profits, but what if we say if Player A manage to complete the wagering requirement? Player A will get his winning + bonus, but Player B will only get his winning. In the case of Losing, both player lose the same. Therefore, winning should be forfeited when a bonus is claimed / active.

Some player might say it is unfair since losing will resulting in deduction of balance, but winning will be forfeited, it is your decision to claim the bonus, bonus is not a free money, if you don't want to take the challenge (wagering requirement), you shouldn't claim the bonus.

With these terms, player will always need to wager with their own balance first before unlocking any bonus balance, when player decided to cancel the bonus, they will left only with their own balance minus any lose amount, thus avoiding any loop happen such as deposit, claim bonus, lose the bonus, withdraw and deposit again and again.
legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1106
Okay, guys, we have always been the dice site that actually listens to its members and despite what we think in this situation we decided to make as our community suggests:

1. we've disabled deposit bonuses and currently working on a new algorithm based on your feedback and a new detailed and clear bonus policy.
2. we've refunded the initial deposit to Ozafejyw782 (it's already on a balance). There were people mentioning that we should revert the balance to the moment before cancellation – and this would be the easiest and acceptable solution for everyone, however (unfortunately) this is not technically possible, we just don't have this possibility.

So we believe now this issue has been resolved.



think you should contact the people who gave your account negative trust and ask them to remove it
update the FAQ and the site's info about the promotion,too
by the way,I managed to unlock the bonus,it was just a test 0.01 I think,but took a lot of time and effort
and I was very close to cancelling it,completely sure that I would get my deposit back and that it would remove just the bonus+the winnings
 
hero member
Activity: 2156
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please explain i want to know sir.the telegram duckdice bot only gives faucet 250 sats,why not up to 2000 sats? often I play in telegram you have a bot very glad sir
copper member
Activity: 2562
Merit: 2510
Spear the bees
There were people mentioning that we should revert the balance to the moment before cancellation – and this would be the easiest and acceptable solution for everyone, however (unfortunately) this is not technically possible, we just don't have this possibility.

This is your PM to me:

If he would just agree to make one more deposit (we actually never asked to deposit 5btc, anything above 0.01btc is eligible) we would've just add his amount as a bonus as a "consolation".

Then why didn't you just send 2 BTC to his deposit address?
sr. member
Activity: 1338
Merit: 253
Okay, guys, we have always been the dice site that actually listens to its members and despite what we think in this situation we decided to make as our community suggests:

1. we've disabled deposit bonuses and currently working on a new algorithm based on your feedback and a new detailed and clear bonus policy.
2. we've refunded the initial deposit to Ozafejyw782 (it's already on a balance). There were people mentioning that we should revert the balance to the moment before cancellation – and this would be the easiest and acceptable solution for everyone, however (unfortunately) this is not technically possible, we just don't have this possibility.

So we believe now this issue has been resolved.

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