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Topic: DUELBITS ASK FOR KYC WHEN YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR EARNED PROFITS - page 2. (Read 6210 times)

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The bears when it comes to KYC is quite complicated,I have always said it, the people who know that this is thanks to the demands of the governments make them even more angry,because those who have crypto should not leave their data under any circumstances or criteria in the sites, the data is left when it is under a fiat money system, which is totally controlled, but the word centralized or centralization is a double-edged sword,because security can be confused with kneeling before these demands, which What does it mean that if you give your information and it leaks, they can easily contact you and that is something very bad, because it can leak to a government, which can become very annoying,but if it leaks to thieves?easy to locate the person and steal it.

so therefore gamblers are very hesitant to involve their personal data in gambling for various reasons such as fear that the data will be hacked and sold to bad people or it could be because the government prohibits gambling and is afraid if the data is leaked causing a ban on these gamblers.

from this problem, we are really advised not to be too hasty to fill out KYC on any gambling site unless it is really needed, such as withdrawing big winnings.
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We must determine where we want to play. And when the casino has changed unlike before, we have the right to move and not use the casino anymore because the casino has started implementing KYC which we don't like. I'm sure there are still less strict casinos when it comes to KYC, so we have to look again if we still want to play gambling as usual.
All choices are determined only by ourselves because by playing in a casino that can make us feel comfortable and happy, it will be easy for us to win.
If you really have to leave the old casino for convenience, then this must be done so that when playing we have a calm mind, that way we ourselves can avoid the emergence of emotions that can cause us to experience defeat or loss.
I know full well most gamblers want to remain anonymous but there aren't many good and trusted casinos out there that don't implement KYC.
Almost all of their big and trusted casinos implement KYC for each of their customers.
Maybe in the future, like it or not, we all have to provide KYC at every casino we use.
legendary
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It is true that if a casino wants a high level of trust from gamblers they must have a license that is good enough to be guaranteed in terms of security, but on the other hand a good license definitely requires requirements in the form of KYC and the problem here is that many gamblers object to KYC so this problem it really is the casino's job to be able to crack it and find a way out.
A gambler is a difficult person to guess because they want a casino that can be relied upon and trusted in terms of security and other things, but they don't want to give KYC to a casino that has the category they want.
maybe you forgot something.
of the majority of gamblers are more concerned with his anonymity not to reveal his identity wherever he is and choose crypto casinos to gamble without involving identity.
so the most important thing is if gamblers really don't want to fill out KYC just to gamble it's better to choose a decentralized casino that doesn't require KYC to bet or withdraw money from the casino. and usually decentralized casinos do not require a license. so gamblers can choose this type of casino to hide their identity and keep gambling.
Yes, I understand very well that a gambler really wants to gamble anonymously without involving their identity. However, they will still look for and choose casinos without KYC.
Sorry mate, I forgot about that.
In fact, I didn't even think that there is a decentralized casino that doesn't require a license and requires KYC. Yes, maybe gamblers who don't like KYC can play there.
But personally, I will always be the same as my previous opinion, namely I will only use casinos that are trusted and have a license, even though I have to provide a KYC.
The bears when it comes to KYC is quite complicated,I have always said it, the people who know that this is thanks to the demands of the governments make them even more angry,because those who have crypto should not leave their data under any circumstances or criteria in the sites, the data is left when it is under a fiat money system, which is totally controlled, but the word centralized or centralization is a double-edged sword,because security can be confused with kneeling before these demands, which What does it mean that if you give your information and it leaks, they can easily contact you and that is something very bad, because it can leak to a government, which can become very annoying,but if it leaks to thieves?easy to locate the person and steal it.
legendary
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I also don't see any reason why people shy away from KYC especially on reputable casinos....

we have to see that when bitcoin was created, people were happy because they finally had privacy and anonymity, so they could play in casinos that accept payments in cryptocurrencies anonymously, without the need for KYC, this was an anonymous market and a market that attract people with a clear objective that they want anonymity, in most cases people anonymity is not to commit crimes, if we make a comparison between the total number of people who want anonymity and the people who want anonymity to commit crimes we will see that the number of criminals it's too small. in the real world to play in a casino the person will have to carry an ID, pay tax in case of victory, it may even have to appear in the newspapers and tv in case of victory, so it is an annoying process for some people

whereas playing at the online casino was supposed to be easy, where you bought bitcoin or altcoin from a friend, took it and deposited it at the casino and played, you wouldn't have a headache with KYC. but the situation has changed a lot, the person to buy bitcoin has to create an account on an exchange and do KYC (he will have to run the risk of being afraid of the exchange selling his data every day) and then he will deposit money in the case and he will have to run everyday risk is being afraid of the casino selling his data, our documents are something important, anyone will be worried about giving documents in an unknown place on the internet, the person is not sure how the documents are being kept and if one day the bankrupt casino where they will leave our documents.
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You have to be prepared for casino requests to do KYC because that's what has happened with the intervention of regulators that force casinos to ask their users for KYC.
Yes if the casino where you are playing is regulated, then expect to be ask for kyc verification sooner or later. It's quite common now and often the issues of gamblers who are not prepared for it and still want to remain anonymous while playing.
So based on that fact, we must prepare the necessary documents to verify our account and continue playing at the casino we want. The best part is that by getting verification from the casino, we can be safer in playing and for the security of the documents we have sent casino will take care of it.

To avoid that, you can look for casinos that are not too strict regarding KYC so you won't be asked to do KYC. Maybe he is committing fraud that the casino suspects or he is a new person at the casino who can finally win a lot of money or there are many other possibilities. But crypto casinos were much different now than a few years ago and nowadays, KYC has become a common thing that can happen in casinos. If you are not ready, you don't need to play gambling.
I believe there's a certain reason on why they're asking for kyc when you didn't expect it (if you're not a whale gambler or not even win huge). So it's up to us if we'll comply or just switch for other casino without kyc. As you've said there's still casinos operating and not restrict about kyc or not implementing kyc at all.
Right. We must determine where we want to play. And when the casino has changed unlike before, we have the right to move and not use the casino anymore because the casino has started implementing KYC which we don't like. I'm sure there are still less strict casinos when it comes to KYC, so we have to look again if we still want to play gambling as usual.
legendary
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@Hispo, I believe that casinos need to make KYC public and observable to all newcomers visiting gambling websites. My only problem is that they try to make it seem as if KYC is not required for anything. In the event that you win a lot of money, they will force you to pass KYC or lose your rewards, which is not a good way to handle a reputation-conscious business.

My reward would be to say goodbye forever to such gambling companies, since how they treat their customers is the most important aspect of their business.
If any casino is asking for KYC, it should be at the beginning of the registration or in the process of signing up the account in the platform but whereby they keep it for the end of withdrawal then people will suspect them the other way around. Asking KYC is good but they should ask the documents of the user on the beginning of the sign up so that when the person want to withdraw his funds then it will not be a problem for the user because he has already passed through the process.

But are you aware that not asking for KYC while signing up could be an advantage in the eyes of the casinos, aren't you?
For example. Let us assume that there are three casinos of good reputation and are properly registered, only one of them does not ask KYC during registration but rather when withdrawing earnings.

It is more likely people will end up registering in the casino which does not ask it right away than in the other two, because (again) it is a hassle to the user. Also, it is more likely a gambler who won money would summit their documents than someone who just want to try a new casino that was recommended to him.  Roll Eyes

Gambling platforms want people to see their advertisements, click on them, register and play. If the registration process is long and requires taking pictures to documents and oneself, then the chain breaks and the potential gambler leaves.  Tongue
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If any casino is asking for KYC, it should be at the beginning of the registration or in the process of signing up the account in the platform but whereby they keep it for the end of withdrawal then people will suspect them the other way around. Asking KYC is good but they should ask the documents of the user on the beginning of the sign up so that when the person want to withdraw his funds then it will not be a problem for the user because he has already passed through the process.
I totally agree with your statement, gambling platforms must implement KYC request rules from the start when users create accounts and provide KYC information to obtain withdrawal services, so there is no bad perception of casinos requiring initial verification for withdrawals. But KYC-friendly gamblers don't need to think about KYC requests because the average casino asks for KYC for the verification process, of course only top and trusted casino platforms will be given KYC data.
legendary
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@Hispo, I believe that casinos need to make KYC public and observable to all newcomers visiting gambling websites. My only problem is that they try to make it seem as if KYC is not required for anything. In the event that you win a lot of money, they will force you to pass KYC or lose your rewards, which is not a good way to handle a reputation-conscious business.

My reward would be to say goodbye forever to such gambling companies, since how they treat their customers is the most important aspect of their business.
If any casino is asking for KYC, it should be at the beginning of the registration or in the process of signing up the account in the platform but whereby they keep it for the end of withdrawal then people will suspect them the other way around. Asking KYC is good but they should ask the documents of the user on the beginning of the sign up so that when the person want to withdraw his funds then it will not be a problem for the user because he has already passed through the process.
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Duelbits has built a stable reputation on the forum for a few years now. And they are now also sponsor of a number of events in which there is considerable prize money to be earned. It also seems very unlikely to me that they won't pay out players unless you've broken the terms and conditions, but then that's entirely your own fault. It can of course be very frustrating if you have requested a payout and not received it, but a casino like Duelbits will always pay honest players properly.
legendary
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It is true that if a casino wants a high level of trust from gamblers they must have a license that is good enough to be guaranteed in terms of security, but on the other hand a good license definitely requires requirements in the form of KYC and the problem here is that many gamblers object to KYC so this problem it really is the casino's job to be able to crack it and find a way out.
A gambler is a difficult person to guess because they want a casino that can be relied upon and trusted in terms of security and other things, but they don't want to give KYC to a casino that has the category they want.
maybe you forgot something.
of the majority of gamblers are more concerned with his anonymity not to reveal his identity wherever he is and choose crypto casinos to gamble without involving identity.
so the most important thing is if gamblers really don't want to fill out KYC just to gamble it's better to choose a decentralized casino that doesn't require KYC to bet or withdraw money from the casino. and usually decentralized casinos do not require a license. so gamblers can choose this type of casino to hide their identity and keep gambling.
Yes, I understand very well that a gambler really wants to gamble anonymously without involving their identity. However, they will still look for and choose casinos without KYC.
Sorry mate, I forgot about that.
In fact, I didn't even think that there is a decentralized casino that doesn't require a license and requires KYC. Yes, maybe gamblers who don't like KYC can play there.
But personally, I will always be the same as my previous opinion, namely I will only use casinos that are trusted and have a license, even though I have to provide a KYC.

The problem with casinos that are decentralized, like an exchange, is when a problem occurs, when there is a problem, support can take a long time to address the problem, while in a casino that is private or centralized, the attention is immediate. and we all know that when we have a problem in the casino what we most want is for it to be resolved quickly, especially if it is a withdrawal of funds, that is something that despairs any player, because it is their money and that is what they should be a priority for any casino.

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This is one of the best way the casino van manage kyc requirements between customers and licensing board.
they make accusations like that regarding KYC requests when they want to withdraw their money, surely the beginner registers an account but doesn't read the casino rules.
some gamblers do object to KYC. but I think it all just needs a reason. but for those who are already familiar with the site, it won't be a problem, which is indeed most casino sites and even crypto exchanges also ask for KYC.
if you don't want KYC, then leave and don't use the casino. they are free to choose their choice. therefore it is important to know everything before we deposit our money.
legendary
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I've been gambling with duelbit for over a 5 months now and I've never had any single encounter or negativity from them and I also feel so bad that most of this accusations are coming from newbie accounts.
I also want to clear a notion that mkay of this casinos also have people who oversees all of their activities especially with their dealings with customers and finance and this is because they're are trying to ensure a provably fair cases between the casino and their players.
One thing I also understand is that, most of this casinos are trying to hard to balance the requirements of the licensing board with the demands of their customers and with regards to KYC with is mostly some to avoid money laundering and fraud is triggered after a certain amount of withdrawal.
This is one of the best way the casino van manage kyc requirements between customers and licensing board.
I really mean tremendously tremendously think Duelbit is fantastic. I've used it for more than two months, and I can honestly say that I haven't had any problems at all. It's encouraging to see that the casino sector is taking action to guarantee the security and integrity of customer transactions, but Duelbit has already arrived. They've achieved an excellent balance between fulfilling the requests of their clients and the regulations of the licensing board. Trust me when I say that anyone looking for a trustworthy and secure online casino should strongly consider Duelbit.
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You have to be prepared for casino requests to do KYC because that's what has happened with the intervention of regulators that force casinos to ask their users for KYC.
Yes if the casino where you are playing is regulated, then expect to be ask for kyc verification sooner or later. It's quite common now and often the issues of gamblers who are not prepared for it and still want to remain anonymous while playing.

To avoid that, you can look for casinos that are not too strict regarding KYC so you won't be asked to do KYC. Maybe he is committing fraud that the casino suspects or he is a new person at the casino who can finally win a lot of money or there are many other possibilities. But crypto casinos were much different now than a few years ago and nowadays, KYC has become a common thing that can happen in casinos. If you are not ready, you don't need to play gambling.
I believe there's a certain reason on why they're asking for kyc when you didn't expect it (if you're not a whale gambler or not even win huge). So it's up to us if we'll comply or just switch for other casino without kyc. As you've said there's still casinos operating and not restrict about kyc or not implementing kyc at all.
hero member
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@Hispo, I believe that casinos need to make KYC public and observable to all newcomers visiting gambling websites. My only problem is that they try to make it seem as if KYC is not required for anything. In the event that you win a lot of money, they will force you to pass KYC or lose your rewards, which is not a good way to handle a reputation-conscious business.

My reward would be to say goodbye forever to such gambling companies, since how they treat their customers is the most important aspect of their business.
You have to be prepared for casino requests to do KYC because that's what has happened with the intervention of regulators that force casinos to ask their users for KYC.

To avoid that, you can look for casinos that are not too strict regarding KYC so you won't be asked to do KYC. Maybe he is committing fraud that the casino suspects or he is a new person at the casino who can finally win a lot of money or there are many other possibilities. But crypto casinos were much different now than a few years ago and nowadays, KYC has become a common thing that can happen in casinos. If you are not ready, you don't need to play gambling.
hero member
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I've been gambling with duelbit for over a 5 months now and I've never had any single encounter or negativity from them and I also feel so bad that most of this accusations are coming from newbie accounts.
I also want to clear a notion that mkay of this casinos also have people who oversees all of their activities especially with their dealings with customers and finance and this is because they're are trying to ensure a provably fair cases between the casino and their players.
One thing I also understand is that, most of this casinos are trying to hard to balance the requirements of the licensing board with the demands of their customers and with regards to KYC with is mostly some to avoid money laundering and fraud is triggered after a certain amount of withdrawal.
This is one of the best way the casino van manage kyc requirements between customers and licensing board.
legendary
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@Hispo, I believe that casinos need to make KYC public and observable to all newcomers visiting gambling websites. My only problem is that they try to make it seem as if KYC is not required for anything. In the event that you win a lot of money, they will force you to pass KYC or lose your rewards, which is not a good way to handle a reputation-conscious business.

My reward would be to say goodbye forever to such gambling companies, since how they treat their customers is the most important aspect of their business.

Sure, the customers (gamblers) are the blood that keeps alive this industry and each one of those casinos. But in my opinion, any casino which is legally registered is expected to ask for KYC sooner or later, while signing up or during the first withdrawal.

Actually, that was a topic which has been discussed here before, and while it would be ideal for casinos just to ask for those documents during the registration of the account, I assume they would rather not to turn the process into a hassle for the newcomers, so they can register fast, deposit and gamble as soon as possible.

I think we both agree, though, on the fact that honesty and transparency can always be improved.
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There is something that is very important to highlight and that is that when they ask me for a KYC at a casino like Duelbits, Stake.com, bitcasino.io, among other casinos that have a very good reputation, I do not hesitate to give my KYC because they are very safe casinos.


The user also need to be aware about this especially if they are trying to deposit or withdraw some huge amount of cash in the platform since this KYC will be ask by them. Gamblers should think the positive side about this since no one can withdraw easily your huge funds unless you sent your KYC details.


The fact of looking for a casino without KYC and that is reliable is very difficult, there are a couple of platforms that are like this, now with respect to the current situation in the world, in any casino they can ask for KYC, for example, if you start operating in any Exchange, it is obvious that we have to give our KYC, so there is not so much problem there, but why? It's simple, they are safe sites, there is not that much of a problem, something similar happens with reliable and safe casinos.


Hard to find reputable casino which didn't ask a KYC to their costumers and if there are casino offering this, those are the new casino in the market and its questionable if their reputation is good or if they can sustain a non KYC compliance in long term they are running.
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DO NOT CREATE AN ACCOUNT ON DUELBITS IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE ASKED FOR KYC AT THE TIME YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW

THEY LET YOU CREATE ACCOUNT... DEPOSIT... BET... NO SIGN OF KYC ANYWHERE... UNTIL YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR FUNDS

I really don't know of the duelbit term of service but you must have to understand that these casinos are just doing their best to balance the requirements of the licensing bodies with the demands of the players and you can agree with me that it's not really easy and you shouldn't be doing this to a reputable casino like this very one.

Gamblers also have to try to understand that these casinos wouldn't have to ask you to do kyc if it was in their power but you should also know that they work under some jurisdiction and their activities aso have some limitations and the day I understood this fact, I had to start bearing with these casinos.
it's pretty easy to understand everything, but sometimes beginners who just want to bet and make a profit don't read the terms and conditions that have been in effect for a long time at Duelbits.
for me KYC is not a big problem when one day you get a big win want to withdraw funds and be asked for KYC, no problem.

and a simpler understanding is if we bet in a licensed casino, I will do KYC at the beginning so that later when I get a big win I am not asked to KYC again.

There is something that is very important to highlight and that is that when they ask me for a KYC at a casino like Duelbits, Stake.com, bitcasino.io, among other casinos that have a very good reputation, I do not hesitate to give my KYC because they are very safe casinos.

The fact of looking for a casino without KYC and that is reliable is very difficult, there are a couple of platforms that are like this, now with respect to the current situation in the world, in any casino they can ask for KYC, for example, if you start operating in any Exchange, it is obvious that we have to give our KYC, so there is not so much problem there, but why? It's simple, they are safe sites, there is not that much of a problem, something similar happens with reliable and safe casinos.

There is one thing most of these rash gamblers don't understand which is that you can't eat your cake and have it back  hence you can't seek to play on a licensed casino and still expect to have a totally none KYC policy, no that's not done and any casino that promises you that, should be suspected to be a possible scam.

I also don't see any reason why people shy away from KYC especially on reputable casinos and just as a quoted user said and I also concor because I personally don't have any issues with doing kyc especially on reputable platform even from the registration stage rather than been hooked along the way.
People who intend to use a certain platform for ligitimate stuffs shouldn't shy away from KYC except their intentions aren't pure.
legendary
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DO NOT CREATE AN ACCOUNT ON DUELBITS IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE ASKED FOR KYC AT THE TIME YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW

THEY LET YOU CREATE ACCOUNT... DEPOSIT... BET... NO SIGN OF KYC ANYWHERE... UNTIL YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR FUNDS

I really don't know of the duelbit term of service but you must have to understand that these casinos are just doing their best to balance the requirements of the licensing bodies with the demands of the players and you can agree with me that it's not really easy and you shouldn't be doing this to a reputable casino like this very one.

Gamblers also have to try to understand that these casinos wouldn't have to ask you to do kyc if it was in their power but you should also know that they work under some jurisdiction and their activities aso have some limitations and the day I understood this fact, I had to start bearing with these casinos.
it's pretty easy to understand everything, but sometimes beginners who just want to bet and make a profit don't read the terms and conditions that have been in effect for a long time at Duelbits.
for me KYC is not a big problem when one day you get a big win want to withdraw funds and be asked for KYC, no problem.

and a simpler understanding is if we bet in a licensed casino, I will do KYC at the beginning so that later when I get a big win I am not asked to KYC again.

There is something that is very important to highlight and that is that when they ask me for a KYC at a casino like Duelbits, Stake.com, bitcasino.io, among other casinos that have a very good reputation, I do not hesitate to give my KYC because they are very safe casinos.

The fact of looking for a casino without KYC and that is reliable is very difficult, there are a couple of platforms that are like this, now with respect to the current situation in the world, in any casino they can ask for KYC, for example, if you start operating in any Exchange, it is obvious that we have to give our KYC, so there is not so much problem there, but why? It's simple, they are safe sites, there is not that much of a problem, something similar happens with reliable and safe casinos.
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@Hispo, I believe that casinos need to make KYC public and observable to all newcomers visiting gambling websites. My only problem is that they try to make it seem as if KYC is not required for anything. In the event that you win a lot of money, they will force you to pass KYC or lose your rewards, which is not a good way to handle a reputation-conscious business.

My reward would be to say goodbye forever to such gambling companies, since how they treat their customers is the most important aspect of their business.
I check the casino you promoted under your signature, during registration they're not asking any KYC even though based on their terms of service, they're asking KYC in order the user can use the service. Yeah nothing wrong with your statement because each user have their own opinion.

But I'm just waiting the day where you've changed your signature and then defending the casino which doesn't need to submit KYC in order to play Roll Eyes
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