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legendary
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Their VIP program is ok, but personally it is not really different than other casinos. A lot of casinos give a (small) cash bonus when leveling up and also offer increased rakeback. I am a small gambler and even achieving the lowest tier is hard for me lol.

As long as I remember, the main difference of the VIP program in duelbits compared to other casinos is about the calculation of the level up reward. Most other casinos use like a fixed amount for the level up reward while duelbits is based on the wager and house edge. It means that we may have different level up rewards for the same wager amount but we play different games. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I think it is more about dynamic changes than the fixed one and that is the difference. However, there is another difference that other places do not offer anything to non-vip that duelbits offers, so that is the biggest difference to me. If you have a casino that still offers some stuff to non-vip people as well, doesn't require you to be vip just to participate in things, then that is a good casino.

Most other places require at least some level of vip before you could end up with anything, and that's not what I would like to see, that just doesn't make sense to me at all. If we can go beyond that, then we could totally have a situation where it looks as if we are dealing with a place that cares about everyone for real and not just people with money.
legendary
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Oh wow! Interesting information! I don't really play there, so I wasn't aware of their VIP System. Yeah, You are correct that most casinos have a fixed amount to reach VIP levels and a fixed level-up bonus. Interestingly, Duelbits share 12.5% of their house edge. I am curious how it works. ~
You may lose more amount by wagering the same amount in the higher HE game than the lower HE game. Although it depends on luck, but it is effective in the long run. Still, Duelbits rank up bonus system is far better than other casino as it is connected with the house edge of the game. There is a probability of losing $66 for every $1k wager on the 6.6% HE game. And you will lose $10 for every $1k wager on the 1% HE game.
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Bonus is not meant to become profitable to the casino. They are gambling on the marketing hoping that they will attract more users but that doesn’t that a player conversion is guaranteed.
They are some sort of profits to the casino in the end because they are getting more bets from you by providing these bonuses.They have marketing expense but also gain a lot from it in the end and for players also if they get some good wins out of it they are happy for it.
Apart from marketing to attract new users and for the friendliness that the casino provides in giving bonuses it is also intended to keep its users loyal and enthusiastic about increasing their bet amount, it is just a strategy that casinos do to make gamblers with services like it makes them feel comfortable.
I myself feel happy when I get a bonus from what I have bet on, whether I have won or lost before.

With the amount of casinos that are around, all casinos need to do something and offer promotions, bonuses, contests, … You always need to trigger the interest of the people to not only attract new players but also, and more importantly, retain your old players.
I agree with you, basically bonuses have many classifications for both new users and old users, such as cashback or VIP rank bonuses, that will make players interested in staying at the gambling and visiting it every week or even every day.
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Bonus is not meant to become profitable to the casino. They are gambling on the marketing hoping that they will attract more users but that doesn’t that a player conversion is guaranteed.
They are some sort of profits to the casino in the end because they are getting more bets from you by providing these bonuses.They have marketing expense but also gain a lot from it in the end and for players also if they get some good wins out of it they are happy for it.

With the amount of casinos that are around, all casinos need to do something and offer promotions, bonuses, contests, … You always need to trigger the interest of the people to not only attract new players but also, and more importantly, retain your old players.
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Bonus is not meant to become profitable to the casino. They are gambling on the marketing hoping that they will attract more users but that doesn’t that a player conversion is guaranteed.
They are some sort of profits to the casino in the end because they are getting more bets from you by providing these bonuses.They have marketing expense but also gain a lot from it in the end and for players also if they get some good wins out of it they are happy for it.
legendary
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Casinos will take into account carefully why they give promotional bonuses to their users, I think when they spend a large budget for a bonus it is still profitable for them, and I never thought they would suffer losses because of spending a budget for bonuses. It may be true that they will lose profits, but if it is in their best interest in the long run, why not do it? after all this kind of thing is something that increases the number of their users at the beginning they are still pioneering to become a big and trusted casino.

Bonus is not meant to become profitable to the casino. They are gambling on the marketing hoping that they will attract more users but that doesn’t that a player conversion is guaranteed.

In this case. Duelbits bonus is a pure cashback without any wagering requirements. A user can take home hard cash without risking huge money and by just doing the minimum requirements to become eligible. Bonus is the way of casino to return part of their profit to the player. Which means they are really losing profit in here but they are expecting a return by means of player being loyal to the casino to contribute more profit from house edge.
This way of giving bonuses may not be in great demand anymore, so another campaign is needed for the casino to attract many users to play on their site and be loyal to continue gambling at any time, it doesn't matter if they are small gamblers or big gamblers as long as they are active, of course they provide income as well as profits for casino, I've also never had a problem with a bonus as long as it's a trusted and safe site, I prefer to play with it not because of the bonus.

Not all gamblers are happy with bonuses, sometimes they just want to play on sites that are trusted, especially on this forum, which has a good reputation, of course, that is an additional point for casinos to be busy visiting and always have a place in the hearts of gamblers.
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Casinos will take into account carefully why they give promotional bonuses to their users, I think when they spend a large budget for a bonus it is still profitable for them, and I never thought they would suffer losses because of spending a budget for bonuses. It may be true that they will lose profits, but if it is in their best interest in the long run, why not do it? after all this kind of thing is something that increases the number of their users at the beginning they are still pioneering to become a big and trusted casino.

Bonus is not meant to become profitable to the casino. They are gambling on the marketing hoping that they will attract more users but that doesn’t that a player conversion is guaranteed.

In this case. Duelbits bonus is a pure cashback without any wagering requirements. A user can take home hard cash without risking huge money and by just doing the minimum requirements to become eligible. Bonus is the way of casino to return part of their profit to the player. Which means they are really losing profit in here but they are expecting a return by means of player being loyal to the casino to contribute more profit from house edge.
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Definitely if the casino finds their bonus and promotions is eating to much of their profit, they will reduce it, others even remove the promotion they think eats a lot of money out of their stash totally.  Casino needs to survive while competing against other casinos, only those who have laid a good strategy and marketing approach are the one who can maintain their bonus and promotions steadily. 
Moreover, if the promotional bonus does not produce a significant positive impact on their casino, then the termination of the promotional bonus will definitely be carried out immediately, especially for promotional bonuses that eat up a very large budget so that casinos have to lose more profits from the promotional bonuses that are held, so the policy to remove them must be really done for the sake of the continuity of the casino because the casino also needs to pay for the team and also for other development needs.
Even though there are several promotional bonuses with quite high wagering requirements, if only a few gamblers participate to get them, the casino can experience losses and it is not proportional to the amount given for these bonuses.
Yes and casinos will usually use other, more cost-effective methods to continue their promotions.
Casinos will take into account carefully why they give promotional bonuses to their users, I think when they spend a large budget for a bonus it is still profitable for them, and I never thought they would suffer losses because of spending a budget for bonuses. It may be true that they will lose profits, but if it is in their best interest in the long run, why not do it? after all this kind of thing is something that increases the number of their users at the beginning they are still pioneering to become a big and trusted casino.
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As long as I remember, the main difference of the VIP program in duelbits compared to other casinos is about the calculation of the level up reward. Most other casinos use like a fixed amount for the level up reward while duelbits is based on the wager and house edge. It means that we may have different level up rewards for the same wager amount but we play different games. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Oh that's interesting didn't know that! All other vip casino programs are only based on wager and don't care on what game you do it. Some casinos give you more points when you wager on sports but that is it, so it an interesting approach from Duelbits. So based on this, the reward you get when you reach your next vip rank is higher when you play on slots than on the house games? I am far on reaching the first vip level, but I am curious about this right now.

AFAIK, Casino that have house games such as dice or low house edge games calculates their VIP points based on the house edge percentage. Since it will unfair to farm VIP point using dice with 98% win chance rate to sports bet or slot with higher house edge. But casino like sportsbet and livecasino determine the points based on the amount of wager without considering the house edge.

Rakeback is the one that being determined based on the house edge of the games being played. I think this is what the Duelbits VIP rewards inspired since they focused their reward on multiple rakeback aside from level up bonus reward.
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It should be also confirmed with the information under the VIP lounge as quoted below:

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On top of that, we now offer you dynamic level up rewards which is 12.5% of house edge!

In a simple explanation, the higher house edge of the game you play, the higher level up rewards you will get.

Oh wow! Interesting information! I don't really play there, so I wasn't aware of their VIP System. Yeah, You are correct that most casinos have a fixed amount to reach VIP levels and a fixed level-up bonus. Interestingly, Duelbits share 12.5% of their house edge. I am curious how it works. For most In-house games, House edges are low. I've just checked Duelbit's In-house games that I like most. Dice and Mines both games have a 1% house edge. But I am surprised that their roulette game has a 6.66% House edge, confirmed by their live support.

So, Let's say someone wagered $1000 in Dice games. He should get $1.25 as a level-up bonus. At the same time, If someone wagers $1000 In Roulette games. He will earn $8.325 as a level-up bonus. That's amazing. I hope gamblers will find it interesting. At least, I find it quite fascinating. I don't think I've seen something like that on any other platform.

Another thing is, Their live support has to more time answering their users why they did not get the same bonus as their friends.
legendary
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That's what I know based on several experiences of difference users when they received different level up rewards for the same VIP level. Those who play slots game only received higher amount than those who play the in house games such as dice or crash. It should be also confirmed with the information under the VIP lounge as quoted below:

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On top of that, we now offer you dynamic level up rewards which is 12.5% of house edge!

In a simple explanation, the higher house edge of the game you play, the higher level up rewards you will get.

sr. member
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As long as I remember, the main difference of the VIP program in duelbits compared to other casinos is about the calculation of the level up reward. Most other casinos use like a fixed amount for the level up reward while duelbits is based on the wager and house edge. It means that we may have different level up rewards for the same wager amount but we play different games. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Oh that's interesting didn't know that! All other vip casino programs are only based on wager and don't care on what game you do it. Some casinos give you more points when you wager on sports but that is it, so it an interesting approach from Duelbits. So based on this, the reward you get when you reach your next vip rank is higher when you play on slots than on the house games? I am far on reaching the first vip level, but I am curious about this right now.
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Definitely if the casino finds their bonus and promotions is eating to much of their profit, they will reduce it, others even remove the promotion they think eats a lot of money out of their stash totally.  Casino needs to survive while competing against other casinos, only those who have laid a good strategy and marketing approach are the one who can maintain their bonus and promotions steadily. 
Moreover, if the promotional bonus does not produce a significant positive impact on their casino, then the termination of the promotional bonus will definitely be carried out immediately, especially for promotional bonuses that eat up a very large budget so that casinos have to lose more profits from the promotional bonuses that are held, so the policy to remove them must be really done for the sake of the continuity of the casino because the casino also needs to pay for the team and also for other development needs.
Even though there are several promotional bonuses with quite high wagering requirements, if only a few gamblers participate to get them, the casino can experience losses and it is not proportional to the amount given for these bonuses.
Yes and casinos will usually use other, more cost-effective methods to continue their promotions.
legendary
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Exactly, Duelbits VIP program saved and never expires which makes small gambler level up their VIP status with just small bankroll. Consistency on small bets is the key to slowly climbing up the VIP level. Aside from the rakeback you can get that increases percentage every time you level up, the cash bonus per level is what makes Duelbits special because it generously gives back part of your wager that you accumulated while acquiring wager points.

Duelbits is the only casino that I’m using with this kind of cool VIP program format.

Their VIP program is ok, but personally it is not really different than other casinos. A lot of casinos give a (small) cash bonus when leveling up and also offer increased rakeback. I am a small gambler and even achieving the lowest tier is hard for me lol.

As long as I remember, the main difference of the VIP program in duelbits compared to other casinos is about the calculation of the level up reward. Most other casinos use like a fixed amount for the level up reward while duelbits is based on the wager and house edge. It means that we may have different level up rewards for the same wager amount but we play different games. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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We can't do anything about these kind of players, they have the right to express their thought but obviously readers are not that naive to just believe anything without confirming the case. Anyone can write a review which they think is appropriate but reader especially the one using the same casino can verify it according to their own experience just like how you react on that post.
I understand that reader can verify those claims. But I don't think potential new players will check every review in detail. They will see the overall ratings and judge the casino based on overall ratings. It will serve as a red flag if it's low compared to others. On the other side, existing players who have played at Duelbits before might be interested in reading in detail. For sure, they know where they are playing and what this casino is offering to them. The worst scenario is a negative rating just because someone is unsatisfied with the bonus.

As a player I would not just jump easily when I see newly created casino with good promotions that gives a player a bit of an edge. I would rather stay on the proven casino and had established its reputation over the years. Besides if one is aiming for VIP rank, it would be a waste to play on newly created casinos since we have to start for the ranking all over again.
I would do the same. But, I have a habit of checking new casinos, how it's going and what they offer. I may try out new casinos with some decent deposits. That doesn't mean I will move there from where I always like to play. Since I like In-house games and love to participate in content, I might try it if new casinos offer something like that. However, reducing the bonus or cutting essential features is a disadvantage. Even Established casinos will lose a portion of users if they do it.  
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I am surprised how a user can write a negative review just because he is not satisfied with the bonus. He wrote a review where he did not explain what issue he faced. This is the best example of a frustrated gambler who loses his money by gambling and then blames casinos for their loss. Kiddos, the day is going to end very soon. Read more info here; Is something big happening behind the scenes that no one talks about?. Big Giant casinos like Stake reduced their bonus drastically. BC removed the Rakeback system a few days ago.

We can't do anything about these kind of players, they have the right to express their thought but obviously readers are not that naive to just believe anything without confirming the case.  Anyone can write a review which they think is appropriate but reader especially the one using the same casino can verify it according to their own experience just like how you react on that post.

What will happen if big casinos remove such features which benefit their users? They already got enough users. Would you leave those reputable casinos and play on new casinos which didn't make their name yet? I saw people not care when they play irresponsibly and lose their money. They care about every bonus, no matter if it's a penny. Even they write negative reviews because they are not satisfied with the bonus they got.

As a player I would not just jump easily when I see newly created casino with good promotions that gives a player a bit of an edge.  I would rather stay on the proven casino and had established its reputation over the years.  Besides if one is aiming for VIP rank, it would be a waste to play on newly created casinos since we have to start for the ranking all over again.

The casino business is a profitable online business if it can operate wisely. But, if you care too much about bonus things and expense a lot of money there, the margin will drop drastically. This is why Giant casinos like Stake were forced to reduce the bonus. It's excellent that Duelbits has a lot of good promotions, and they did not remove any feature yet while others are trying to increase their profit margin.

Definitely if the casino finds their bonus and promotions is eating to much of their profit, they will reduce it, others even remove the promotion they think eats a lot of money out of their stash totally.  Casino needs to survive while competing against other casinos, only those who have laid a good strategy and marketing approach are the one who can maintain their bonus and promotions steadily. 
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The casino business is a profitable online business if it can operate wisely. But, if you care too much about bonus things and expense a lot of money there, the margin will drop drastically. This is why Giant casinos like Stake were forced to reduce the bonus. It's excellent that Duelbits has a lot of good promotions, and they did not remove any feature yet while others are trying to increase their profit margin.
They have to make strategies according to their marketing and promotional budget so they cut sometimes these bonus and reduce giveaways also which is the case with most of casinos.But the thing is when you are competing in this market you can't satisfy all the players as they have different demands and casino can't operate on all of them but makes wise moves according to whole demand and their plans.There are many such reviews of which they cannot do anything.
hero member
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I changed my trust pilot review as well since they don't offer me any bonuses no matter how much I deposit/wager, I have lost crediblity with them.
So, you have submitted a negative review about Duelbits on Trustpilot as you aren't satisfied with their bonus system!

I am surprised how a user can write a negative review just because he is not satisfied with the bonus. He wrote a review where he did not explain what issue he faced. This is the best example of a frustrated gambler who loses his money by gambling and then blames casinos for their loss. Kiddos, the day is going to end very soon. Read more info here; Is something big happening behind the scenes that no one talks about?. Big Giant casinos like Stake reduced their bonus drastically. BC removed the Rakeback system a few days ago.

What will happen if big casinos remove such features which benefit their users? They already got enough users. Would you leave those reputable casinos and play on new casinos which didn't make their name yet? I saw people not care when they play irresponsibly and lose their money. They care about every bonus, no matter if it's a penny. Even they write negative reviews because they are not satisfied with the bonus they got.

The casino business is a profitable online business if it can operate wisely. But, if you care too much about bonus things and expense a lot of money there, the margin will drop drastically. This is why Giant casinos like Stake were forced to reduce the bonus. It's excellent that Duelbits has a lot of good promotions, and they did not remove any feature yet while others are trying to increase their profit margin.
legendary
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The special bonuses are definitely for VIP players and they can claim back also some percentage of what they have wagered but for sure casino is earning from them and giving them in return but you see players also enjoy because they are gambling along with these benefits.The casino will not always pay off from their pocket but from profits they are earning out of your pocket.
It is given as they are truly spending and losing multiple times that what we can so yes VIP has this claims.
this is a dream for all gamblers to become VIP but only few that manage to become one as the obligation and requirements are truly high.
but I am enjoying my level  in Duelbits because for me that is what I can only afford and this never bothers me.,
I know how to limit my betting same as my depositing .
That's a great way to approach it. If you know your limits and you can calculate how much you can gamble without hurting your finances, then you are doing the right thing and never let anyone tell you otherwise. I have been doing that for over 5 years and been gambling with deposit amounts that doesn't hurt my finances and so  far I had the most fun of my life.

The only regret I have is that back in the day all those years ago if I invested into bitcoin and hold it instead of gambling with it, there would have been millions of dollars now instead of nothing, but if I know myself I would have cashed out earlier and used that for paying for stuff instead of holding so that's fine. All in all I bet that this type of betting makes gambling more fun than anything else.
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