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legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1026
In Search of Incredible
~ He was about to do which isnt 100% allowed or fair; maybe 99,99% fair and 0.01% smart move to get advantage (but duelbits is about fair and equal tournament conditions for all). All in all roycilik was about to perform double risk, firstly by gambling and secondly by using multi-window. What is this all about? Competition spirit? A wish to get extra risk and emotions? Wanted to test how duelbits react?
Playing multiple slots at a same time by opening multiple windows is completely fair and legal thing. Because, you aren't going to get any advantages from the casino. The RTP of the slots will work normally as it does always. It only helps the users in some leaderboard contest. I have used multi-window on some other casinos, never had any problem at anywhere. However, I haven't used it for a long term on any casino. I believe the decision has been made by Duelbits team as he was winning prizes and staying on profit from this.
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1155
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
You got my point, there is no reason to stay (at least for now) Cheesy
If someone is suspected of cheating, then they will ban you from all access, but they only suspended me for the tournament LOL

Now we understand your problem and of course your experience will be our consideration in the future, when always winning in the tournament is not a guarantee I mean we as forum users who are active in several tournaments have the same concern. Luckily they still allow you to claim/get all bonuses and prizes it proves that you are not cheating it's just that your dominance in the tournament is not allowed for several reasons, we know it's easy for you to find a new place and hopefully more lucky for that.
legendary
Activity: 2562
Merit: 1414
I am stupid and dont understand Cheesy This is simply doing 10 $10 bets, why use multi-window for that? Or I dont understand meaning of multi-window. Isnt it opening several casino tabs in browser and run games simultaneously.

Im not sure how fast is it on slots but on house game auto betting, its around 10 minutes for 1k rolls and if you pull 2 tabs of autobetting then its around 1.5x faster for each 10 minutes. Tried this with my crappy PC so with a high end PC of atleast 3 tabs, you could probably pull over 2x speed for sure.

If you notice most of the on-site tournament isnt really wager tournament but its point based tournament



Every $0.2 spins give you 1 point so yeah more bets = more points. Obviously you rack in points faster if you are on multi tab
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1501
But when it comes to the wager contest combined with points, using multi windows can reduce the risk of losing in single bigger bet.
For example, as small gambler, in order to wager $100, which method I will prefer to use? Bet $100 in single bet or divide it to 10bets with $10 each?

I am stupid and dont understand Cheesy This is simply doing 10 $10 bets, why use multi-window for that? Or I dont understand meaning of multi-window. Isnt it opening several casino tabs in browser and run games simultaneously. If this is correct, why someone would open 10 tabs and run 1 spin in each of the tap, instead of using autospin 10 times?

With roycilik case I only want to understand psychology of his action. He was gambling with real money, so every loss maters. He was about to do which isnt 100% allowed or fair; maybe 99,99% fair and 0.01% smart move to get advantage (but duelbits is about fair and equal tournament conditions for all). All in all roycilik was about to perform double risk, firstly by gambling and secondly by using multi-window. What is this all about? Competition spirit? A wish to get extra risk and emotions? Wanted to test how duelbits react?

P.S. This is like in crime. Good cop catches a thief and solves the case, but excellent cop find out thief's motive for breaking law, and only then puts him in jail. It is not enough to judge a criminal, it is important to understand what forces him to do the crime.
legendary
Activity: 3500
Merit: 1354
roycilik, is it possible to pull you out on a more open conversation here ? Cheesy Mostly about your case with duelbits. I am interested in finding out what attracted you to use multi-window wagering method for duelbits tournaments in particular. There are other casinos that also have big tournaments, some even run them more often duelbits. I would also gladly hear how you came to idea of using multi-window method. I saw previously that people play online poker like that, or play chess on several boards simultaneously for more fun. I never even though about running several browser tabs to gamble on  several games. The idea of multi-window is so simple that I am amazed not every single one is using it.

I'll give my opinion based on my experience at other casino but with similar case especially when it comes to most spins or most bets tournament which is actually the same as the one on duelbits weekly slot tournament.
When the tournament is about most spins, of course playing with multi windows give bigger chance to win the tournament but at the same time, it gives higher chance to lose faster.
I do believe those who are on top 5-10 on duelbits weekly tournament (especially the slot tournament) use the same method.
Otherwise, they wont get that much spins at the end of the tournament.
But when it comes to the wager contest combined with points, using multi windows can reduce the risk of losing in single bigger bet.
For example, as small gambler, in order to wager $100, which method I will prefer to use? Bet $100 in single bet or divide it to 10bets with $10 each?
Of course I will prefer to use the 2nd method because for me and maybe for roycilik or maybe for small-medium gamblers, this method is safer than betting $100 at once.
It makes me wondering, is this multi-windows betting that makes roycilik being suspended from upcoming duelbits tournament? If so, is there any written terms that using multi windows is something fraudulent or illegal?
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1501
roycilik, is it possible to pull you out on a more open conversation here ? Cheesy Mostly about your case with duelbits. I am interested in finding out what attracted you to use multi-window wagering method for duelbits tournaments in particular. There are other casinos that also have big tournaments, some even run them more often duelbits. I would also gladly hear how you came to idea of using multi-window method. I saw previously that people play online poker like that, or play chess on several boards simultaneously for more fun. I never even though about running several browser tabs to gamble on  several games. The idea of multi-window is so simple that I am amazed not every single one is using it.
legendary
Activity: 2646
Merit: 1994
1% Skill 99% Luck :v
Makes sense. You are a long-term winner on their site which is why they suspended you from all tournaments which is what most casinos usually do excluding some huge ones that don't mind consistent winners.
You got my point, my account have no value hahahaa
Out of curiosity, are you in profit overall or not when combining your earnings across all crypto gambling sites?
Not at all, but if I find a tournament that makes sense for me, then I'll be there.
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Not all my stories are posted in this forum, but you will see my journey in this thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60495210

Did they give you any warning before making you persona non grata on their tournaments? What are your move now? File an appeal or leave it? Any words on that explained in ToS?
There will be no warning,
As I said before, I just wanna say thanks for all the time, they're not scamming me or holding any of my funds, so there is no appeal
I'm not one or two days in the gambling industry, so I knew better when their department said "The decision is final", that there is only a 1% chance to get back my privilege
I'm not complaining nor filing an appeal, just want to leave when I'm on the top achievement.

Looks like it isn’t illegal there. I can't see any terms related to this on Duelbits. Most of the gambler plays multiple slots at the same time to participate in leaderboard contest.
Yeah you already know that, no one can get 10 spins in a second when playing slot
I think that the decision of Duelbits isn’t related to the use of multi-window. Perhaps, it has happened as you kept making profit on Duelbits in this long journey.
Please see again their reason
To be honest I was a little surprised by this information when one of the loyal players was stopped from all tournaments and I remember you,  me and other participants were among the initial participants in the tournament since a few years ago but unfortunately it must over like this.
It's happened hahaah
Nice nostalgia Merlin Cheesy, We were part of the Duelbits promotion on the forums in the beginning. You know that
is there no way to appeal or other things? I did not see a violation but only a hard effort in the tournament. I hope there will be a solution before you really decide to leave. I also think there is no reason to lose your monthly bonus, right?
The decision is final, so there is no way
Just checked and I still get the Monthly bonus


I think that maybe the same thing will also happen to me sooner or later, for now I'll just take all the available opportunities to make some profit from the tournaments in duelbits.
I will miss when passing the participants on the last day LOL,
Good luck, one of your opponents has been taken down Cheesy

Since they banned you on on-site leaderboard, you should still entitled with the monthly bonus but you probably wont get the christmas leaderboard bonus
I just checked, they have sent the rewards, monthly and the Chrismas leaderboard


I'm sure Roycilik is considering finding another casino that offers similar tournaments. I think I know where he might play next if he is permanently banned from this type of leaderboard tournament.
You have caught me, hahahaaa
Also, not allowing him to claim the monthly bonus seems unreasonable, in my opinion.
They have allowed me to claim my monthly reward

His chances of loosing also have increased when he was using multi-window thing.
You're absolutely correct, I have to spend around $1k for the weekly tournament

thing you did? Did they mention it? It will be nice if they can mention it publicly so it can be a lesson for others.
There is only a 1% chance we will get the specific reason and make it public, and I really understand the reason why the industry will not open to the public

Honestly, I do not think you are a player who will do something against the rules by any casino so I doubt you did as what are mentioned in above reasons.
You know me better (:

Although your account is not completely banned, but what's the point of having an account if your account is excluded from their promotions? I can understand if you have also decided that it is your end at duelbits, maybe you should move to other casinos.
You got my point, there is no reason to stay (at least for now) Cheesy
If someone is suspected of cheating, then they will ban you from all access, but they only suspended me for the tournament LOL

last night their CS gave me an update that I still have the privilege of Rakeback, but you know I'm going back to Duelbits not for Rakeback LOL
legendary
Activity: 3500
Merit: 1354
Here is the reason LOL
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1. If we determine that you have used the Website in a fraudulent, collusive, illegal, unlawful, or improper manner.
2. If we find that you have engaged in unfair practices, deliberate cheating, or taken advantage of the Website or any of its Users, or if your Account is being utilized for the benefit of a third party.

Sorry to hear your sad story on New Year, the given reasons above are still questionable for me because they did not tell you the specific thing of what you did that make them think as mentioned on above 2 reasons.
For the reason, what fraudulent, collusive, illegal, etc thing you did? Did they mention it? It will be nice if they can mention it publicly so it can be a lesson for others.
Honestly, I do not think you are a player who will do something against the rules by any casino so I doubt you did as what are mentioned in above reasons.
Although your account is not completely banned, but what's the point of having an account if your account is excluded from their promotions? I can understand if you have also decided that it is your end at duelbits, maybe you should move to other casinos.
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1501
At least roycilik did not go here and there and confessed from the start that he has used technology (multi-window) advantage in gambling. Everything that is not forbidden is allowed Cheesy I dont think that what he has been doing fit under category "unfair practices, deliberate cheating, or taken advantage of the Website". His chances of loosing also have increased when he was using multi-window thing. If in offline casinos I can use both hand to hit on SPIN button on slots, then why multi-window is not allowed?
sr. member
Activity: 1638
Merit: 364
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Is this the first time Duelbits has banned a player from the leaderboard or any kind of tournament, like they did with Roycilik? Is it stated in their terms that they can ban players if they reach the maximum reward? This is the first time I've seen a player banned from a tournament for this reason, if that's the case. I'm sure Roycilik is considering finding another casino that offers similar tournaments. I think I know where he might play next if he is permanently banned from this type of leaderboard tournament. Also, not allowing him to claim the monthly bonus seems unreasonable, in my opinion.
legendary
Activity: 2562
Merit: 1414
So I might lose the monthly bonus
-snip
And also the Christmas Leaderboard (no more climbing) LOL

So did you get these two?

Since they banned you on on-site leaderboard, you should still entitled with the monthly bonus but you probably wont get the christmas leaderboard bonus

So $23.6k reward, this excluding all the prizes that you won from bitcointalk promotions. You probably gathered around $40-50k in total. Pretty good amount actually.

Even if the duelbits team were to resolve the issues,

Except that there is nothing to resolve. Duelbits didnt hold his balance and he is still able to withdraw anything. They made the decision to ban him from joining tournaments
sr. member
Activity: 980
Merit: 237
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I am not sure how to react what have just happened to you in duelbits. It is unfortunate that duelbits decide to suspend you from all upcoming tournaments/leaderboard while you are the most active player from bitcointalk. I think that maybe the same thing will also happen to me sooner or later, for now I'll just take all the available opportunities to make some profit from the tournaments in duelbits. Hopefully duelbits will review their decision and let you come back in their tournaments/leaderboard although maybe with some requirements.
Even if the duelbits team were to resolve the issues, lessons have been learned, profits made, reputation stabbed and along with a whole other things that could be responsible for one losing interest in both the forum and the site.
hero member
Activity: 2702
Merit: 716
Nothing lasts forever
I have to say, this might be my last year playing on Duelbits and sharing my experience

Short story, I have managed my account since 29/11/2020 and now on 31/12/2024 I have to close
4 years I have made huge profits from Duelbits, thanks to Duelbits and Hhampuz
I have collected more than $23k in rewards (on site)

My VIP level is very close to the VIP KING Cheesy

Wow, that's a huge amount you have wagered and obviously pretty good rewards in return.
I haven't followed your journey much but which games did you play the most ?
Besides, how did you manage to keep such a good winning rate after all ?
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1312
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I am not sure how to react what have just happened to you in duelbits. It is unfortunate that duelbits decide to suspend you from all upcoming tournaments/leaderboard while you are the most active player from bitcointalk. I think that maybe the same thing will also happen to me sooner or later, for now I'll just take all the available opportunities to make some profit from the tournaments in duelbits. Hopefully duelbits will review their decision and let you come back in their tournaments/leaderboard although maybe with some requirements.
sr. member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 363
Did I experience any losses? No, just disappointment.
Is my account banned? No, it’s only suspended from participating in all tournaments (on-site).
Does Duelbits hold my funds? No, I have fully withdrawn all my funds

Thanks again to Duelbits and Hhampuz,
I just want to tell you about my story at the end of the year
"Happy New Year"

To be honest I was a little surprised by this information when one of the loyal players was stopped from all tournaments and I remember you,  me and other participants were among the initial participants in the tournament since a few years ago but unfortunately it must over like this. is there no way to appeal or other things? I did not see a violation but only a hard effort in the tournament. I hope there will be a solution before you really decide to leave.

Crazy that they he end up like this and I don't know why Duelbits did that to their loyal long time client. If they always do this thing then provably they would lose a lot more competitive gamblers on site. I don't know if the winnings gotten by roycilik is one factor make them try to eliminate him on their future tournaments, but this is really crazy story to read. But I guess its better to move on and good thing that he knows what better thing to do and there are lots of casinos out here where provably allow him to participate on their ongoing tournaments. If same situation happen to me I also leave and will not think about going back here anymore.
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 1155
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Did I experience any losses? No, just disappointment.
Is my account banned? No, it’s only suspended from participating in all tournaments (on-site).
Does Duelbits hold my funds? No, I have fully withdrawn all my funds

Thanks again to Duelbits and Hhampuz,
I just want to tell you about my story at the end of the year
"Happy New Year"

To be honest I was a little surprised by this information when one of the loyal players was stopped from all tournaments and I remember you,  me and other participants were among the initial participants in the tournament since a few years ago but unfortunately it must over like this. is there no way to appeal or other things? I did not see a violation but only a hard effort in the tournament. I hope there will be a solution before you really decide to leave. I also think there is no reason to lose your monthly bonus, right?
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 800
I have to say, this might be my last year playing on Duelbits and sharing my experience

Short story, I have managed my account since 29/11/2020 and now on 31/12/2024 I have to close
4 years I have made huge profits from Duelbits, thanks to Duelbits and Hhampuz
I have collected more than $23k in rewards (on site)
I really like when people are sharing their testimony there good experience about gambling, and you have been a nice player and a good one for that matter playing from 2020 down to 2024 I know it wasn't easy playing without becoming addicted whereby causing a problem to your household but to see that you have made a remarkable amount that amount about 23k USD shows a good progress while gambling. Anyway I barely spent year in gambling and I have the experience even though I've been around the forum reading and learning things and experience from other members it gives me an edge to position myself more better while gambling as I know every gamblers surely have a story to tell and the lucky game that gives them what they are today and the joy they have through gambling.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1026
In Search of Incredible
How to win the leaderboard? just do multi-window and be ready to spend a lot of money, is that illegal? I don't know, because most players on the top leaderboards do that
Looks like it isn’t illegal there. I can't see any terms related to this on Duelbits. Most of the gambler plays multiple slots at the same time to participate in leaderboard contest. I think that the decision of Duelbits isn’t related to the use of multi-window. Perhaps, it has happened as you kept making profit on Duelbits in this long journey. Sportsbook usually apply such conditions on the users who can maintain profits in the long run. This type of decision is rare for casino users.
sr. member
Activity: 2226
Merit: 254
Top-tier crypto casino and sportsbook
Did I experience any losses? No, just disappointment.
Is my account banned? No, it’s only suspended from participating in all tournaments (on-site).
Does Duelbits hold my funds? No, I have fully withdrawn all my funds
Makes sense. You are a long-term winner on their site which is why they suspended you from all tournaments which is what most casinos usually do excluding some huge ones that don't mind consistent winners.

Congrats on your overall profit. Out of curiosity, are you in profit overall or not when combining your earnings across all crypto gambling sites? Would totally understand if you aren't willing to share such private info.

Sorry to hear the problems you are having. I had a similar issue with them some years ago where I got banned from all promotions but I am not a high roller like you. It sucks as they have some good promotions/tournaments but nothing you can really do about it.
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1501
Wow… What a bitter candy on the last day of the year. Sad to hear that you are not eligible to join any new tournaments, as they are the most juice of a gambling platform, as you can play all those same games everywhere.

Did they give you any warning before making you persona non grata on their tournaments? What are your move now? File an appeal or leave it? Any words on that explained in ToS?
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