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then that is completely their problem mate , because why push your self in something that you cannot pursue? liek you are asking for impossible because these sites are following the rules and laws of each government they are operating .
OP is checking this thread from time to time so I think he'll get back to you sooner.

As a newbie, I can't send you a private message. So I will post a message in this topic, can you help to take a look at my case https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/resolved-is-it-possible-for-duelbitcom-to-retrieve-my-wrong-deposit-5465827 here ? Thanks

Maybe they can't just accept the fact that they can't play on the casino they like to play and see that many people enjoy while them did not because they are still skeptical. So they make things complicated to see if their action can chang something, but since those implementation already happen I guess we need to accept that since there's no doubt that it can also be implemented to other casino. Although this is bad for other but this is beauty in disguise to other since they can move their selves away from gambling since they don't like to submit their KYC to them.

They have more favor to the ones that are actively having new referrals and affiliates and that's why it's favorable to the active and hardworking ones. That's a motivation for them to keep on working very well not just for the casinos sake but also to them. And as for the Duelbits' affiliate partners, they're sure to have the best partner and casino to work with.

Nope, we're just overwhelmed when nukerboy shared his great affiliate journey with Duelbits. 
In fact, he praised Duelbits for being the best in affiliate that he has used.

main problem would be breaking their word, changing something they promissed
otherwise it may make sense for a casino to leave the affiliate program active for a determined amount of time only, like, let's say, 1-3 years.

duelbits did something like that? I didn't keep up.

We have our own free choice and free will , if we dont wanna deal with KYC then dont play with it simple as that , I don't know why does others making it complicated when the site is not forcing them to play with them?
they should respect the rules or play no more.

Thread Updated: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/duelbits-scam-alert-unveiling-the-illusion-of-the-most-rewarding-casino-5464671

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I don't know much about Duelbits, but never believe the titles that companies claim. Definitely, everyone will tell you that they are the best but you shouldn't actually believe that they 100% back it up.
It's good that you created SA thread, I hope your problem will be solved because Duelbits doesn't want to ruin reputation and if there is some misleading, I believe that will be solved! Just saying, if I were you, I would try to make that thread a little short and more focused on actual problem because people don't read long posts.
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I've never held any illusions about casinos, and I appreciate your perspective. You're absolutely right; skepticism is key when it comes to bold claims.

As for the thread, thank you for the advice. I'll work on making it more concise and to the point to ensure that the issue is crystal clear. It's crucial that people understand the core problem, and I'll do my best to convey that.

I never believed the casino to be honest; you can check all my posts,  it's a chain of events that led me to this. As you can see, no one has replied to the Scam thread I have all proofs, duel bits made me look like an idiot and I am sure they are reading this thread and having a good laugh about it. This was the last response from their head of support.



See how he is shifting the narrative away from the core issue. While I understand that gambling inherently involves both winning and losing, the issue here is not about losses but rather about unmet promises and a lack of transparency in their bonus system. The attempt to portray Duelbits as purely an "entertainment" platform sidesteps the issue at hand.

Duelbits' response is not in line with the issues I've raised. As a blackjack player, I am well aware of the odds, and my concern is about fairness and transparency, not simply winning or losing. Duelbit head of Support response appears to be a diversion from the core issue.

Yeah, Cost cutting is the typical move of some casino to lessen expenses from affiliates especially for those affiliate that doesn’t invite new referrals and only relying to the existing invites that they already profited for a long time. Retroactive affiliate commission is not new affiliate system of casino since the affiliate can’t pull out their invites anymore once they already registered and made tons of bets in the casino due to VIP level.

if it's legal or illegal it'll vary from place to place
I'm still surprised of not having more dex options without KYC, any idea why is that?
maybe because of the need of a huge bankroll to operate a good casino?

Duelbits paid him 10% of house edge. If the income from house edge commision was the same from $25K and $180K wagering from different websites, that means that another website paid him (let's assume that website also has 1% house edge) 1.4% of the house edge.
By the way, sometimes I have even see casinos offering 50% of house edge, that is definitely the greatest reward one can gain through affiliates on casino.

I don't know much about Duelbits, but never believe the titles that companies claim. Definitely, everyone will tell you that they are the best but you shouldn't actually believe that they 100% back it up.
It's good that you created SA thread, I hope your problem will be solved because Duelbits doesn't want to ruin reputation and if there is some misleading, I believe that will be solved! Just saying, if I were you, I would try to make that thread a little short and more focused on actual problem because people don't read long posts.

Nice, that's a lot of commissions for sure, and no doubt that they're truthful to what they're offering for their affiliates.

Cost cutting is usually the reason for these slashes of their commission percentages and that can't be foreseen. But with such experience from the others, you are having the idea that it can happen elsewhere when you're expecting it. Another reason might be that some plan offers they're about to open.

Yeah , I agree with you, when it has to do with amount paid as referral commission, duelbits is definitely the best, or should I say one of the best since I personally believe that there could be another gambling casino out there that could also have a higher pay as referral commission, for example, Bc.game also used to be one of the best based on how high their referral commission is until they slashed the rate of the commission recently, I don't know what their reason is, but I assume they did it to cut down on operational cost and expenses, in other to increase profit .

If referring based on house edge then the main factors that impact revenue are commission rate and the type of game played because every game offers a different edge for example commissions on slot games are 3-4x higher than Dice game so if a referral plays a slot game (3% edge) for $25000 wagered then the commission will be the same as the referral who played Dice game (1% edge) for $75,000 wagered so don't be surprised if we get different commissions from each casino.

Here is my income from referrals 3.5%  edge x 769 wagered x 10% commission rate = $2.69 total earnings
There is a slight difference in commissions but I assume it's a combination edge (3-5%) from several games
Correct me if I miscalculated.

FTX won't fail if the management don't do illegal trades and does not intentionally drain the FTX fund to fund their other companies investment plans.  Imagine moving $8B of funds to its sister company Alameda, any centralized company will get bankrupt if majority of its fund is moved out to be used by other company.

As long as the centralized company is able, reputable and have good marketing, and offer an insurance of the deposited funds, it somehow minimize the loses of the client.  Unlike losing a private key of your non-custodial wallet or being infected by balance draining malware, you will never get a refund since it is your own fault that you lose your funds. 


I highly agree, we don't need to whine about KYC implementation, we are not forced to play in a casino platform, it is our own free will that we register on the site. Since the terms of service is already laid out, we need to follow it once we chooses to agree and register on the site.  Else, no need to create any drama or issue about KYC, just avoid or quit playing if we have an issue about it.

Hmmm, Duelbits offers the standard commission rate of 10% of the house edge according to the recent article published by Duelbits on this https://help.duelbits.com/en/articles/5351626-affiliates-explained. I wonder how come you get a commission almost the same to the total wager of your referral while your commission is just based on the home edge.

I'm not familiar on the full affiliate program of Duelbits but it's intriguing to saw a affiliate commission like this. What's you commision rate if you will since I knew that some special user can have special offer by the casino.

Duelbits is by far the best site in terms of affiliate commissions I have been working with. For $25 000 wagered by my referral they paid me almost the same commission as another website paid me for $180 000 wagered by him there too.
I like also the fact that you know exactly what your bonuses will be

Looking at the deep discussion about KYC and also the non-ending one, those who have issues with the KYC should either quit gambling or maybe they should go and play at l-a-s v-a-g-u-s.  No one will identify you but only few thousands peeps will be watching you play at the casino, or may be you getting nicely recorded on the CCTV footage of the casino. If you end up winning huge amounts of money then either someone is going to notice you now and then and end up with new friends!

What is better? Sitting at home in your comfort chair and doing KYC that will also be recorded with legal process and will never ever be looked at again ever unless something mysterious happens at your end or may be at the gambling site end. May be I will prefer the second one and keep up with KYC. Oh wait its already done and looks like everything is fine for me. 

It is necessary for these casinos to abide the law to be able to get a license, that includes asking for KYC. We don't want to play on a casino without license, right? Because that means they're not operating legally. Thus, it's quite common now for a centralized casinos to ask their players to verify their identity. Though some of them (as you've said) don't ask beforehand and will just do it after something happened or you win huge and exceeds the withdrawal limit to be ask for kyc.

Nevertheless, it's understandable if many gamblers still don't like this idea but that's how it is, if you want to continue playing then expect this procedure will be ask sooner or later.

It is not actually rare mate because there are still casino sites that is KYC free but they are outnumbered by those centralize casino like what we are seeing now.
and also you are correct about  the difficulties because of bankroll  and on-chain.