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Quote from: Coin_trader on September 19, 2023, 03:24:07 AM

They have licensed to operate which you can verify through the Curacao website. It’s your problem if you can’t prove your source of income. You will only put on this kind of security check if you done something suspicious that will make you looks like doing money laundering in the casino.

I honestly don’t know what’s your issue here but your statement here is an obviously attack against Duelbits since you are using their security procedure as some sort negative feature of the casino which you can experience too on other casino with same circumstances becoming of AML policy.

Casinos with license have to follow many laws and regulations including KYC and AML policies. Then a user must be carefully before sending their money to an account on casino if they have yet read Terms of Service and FAQs. It takes time to read, scan or search to find information but it is really worth time to do that.

Money laundering is more regulated globally so casinos are not exceptions but I really believe big casinos with proved business, good reputation don't pull their KYC and AML card if they don't detect any suspicious activity from an account. Their casino reputation is more important than investigating a user without solid proof and take risk of damage on their reputation that takes many time like years to build up.

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Quote from: kingbj21 on September 18, 2023, 01:55:47 PM

Yes, losing my funds was my responsibility. But Duelbits isn't a legitimate casino. They would let you play without KYC and when it comes to the source of income, you will be screwed and the funds will be locked, they won't accept your signature earnings as well.

Duelbits are worse than thieves.

They have licensed to operate which you can verify through the Curacao website. It’s your problem if you can’t prove your source of income. You will only put on this kind of security check if you done something suspicious that will make you looks like doing money laundering in the casino.

I honestly don’t know what’s your issue here but your statement here is an obviously attack against Duelbits since you are using their security procedure as some sort negative feature of the casino which you can experience too on other casino with same circumstances becoming of AML policy.

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Quote from: babygun on September 12, 2023, 08:02:16 AM

Quote from: Coin_trader on September 12, 2023, 02:37:15 AM

Forget about it. Competing agains multiple bot account on twitter on this kind of giveaway with random winners is very hard to win. I remember they have this kind of promotion before on daily basis which I actively participated as well with other forum member here but no one won from here on this kind of tournament. Just kidding on the discouragement! Cheesy

But it’s really hard to win on any giveaway that involves social media since you are competing with bunch of users and some of them is not legit. It’s better to join on game and rounds giveaways here in the forum even if some of it requires minimal casino activity before you can participate.

I agree 100%, but still all casinos keep doing these giveaways via Twitter and Telegram. There used to be a time on this forum where we had a lot of fun and free games in the games & rounds sections (like guess the slot, guess the wager, make predictions for matches,...), but these days are long gone and I doubt they will ever come back.
On the other hand, the giveaways on like Twitter only take 2 minutes and I have seen some forum members winning a prize when they launch a promo code.

yes, those golden times of giving away in Games and Round section.

also the Dueling that Duelbits started as a game promo , also some several casino that offers other bonus giving games.

but never that I partake in twitter , have you earn enough in the past mate?

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Quote from: GxSTxV on September 15, 2023, 01:52:49 PM

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I am not mad at KYC thing, I know this long back. I am just stating, they will take as much as $48,000 without requiring kyc. Then they can nerf down with the bonuses. These fuckers should be in jail for their shady practices. Any person wearing their signature should be ashamed as well..haha

Isn't it what Duelbits mentioned in their Terms of Service regarding the KYC procedure? where every user will eventually be asked to complete it maybe after 1 deposit or even 100, Personally It’s been like a year or more without being asked for it and when they do I will verify my account because I know the rules. But in your opinion do you believe that all casinos should stop and refrain from allowing deposits until a user's account is fully verified? Following this logic let's consider an example where 1000 users join today and each of them must submit their documents and pass the KYC process before making a deposit before allowing them to gamble. Out of these users only 100 will deposit and play once their accounts are verified by the team. The point here is why burden the team with verifying accounts more often and delaying many gamblers for a day or two before they can start playing, when the current rules only require KYC for depositing users?
I understand that you may have lost some funds while gambling but that's totally your responsibility, and none of us should be ashamed for wearing signatures of a legitimate casino.

Yes, losing my funds was my responsibility. But Duelbits isn't a legitimate casino. They would let you play without KYC and when it comes to the source of income, you will be screwed and the funds will be locked, they won't accept your signature earnings as well.

Duelbits are worse than thieves.

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Quote from: degengmmbler on September 15, 2023, 01:34:54 PM

Quote from: Solosanz on September 15, 2023, 08:50:39 AM

Quote from: Coin_trader on September 15, 2023, 07:47:47 AM

If I may interject here. How the heck requiring KYC on random basis is worst than asking KYC upfront? You can always voluntarily KYC your account the moment you finish your registration.

That always been a non sense attack when there's someone complain about KYC problem, they will say it's better for the casino or the gambler to complete KYC before making a deposit. But you will see they're saying I don't like KYC in the another thread and asking a casino to not force asking KYC Cheesy

I think if someone is want to gamble in centralized casino, just accept if they would ask your KYC in the future.

Your comment makes no sense.
They are saying they dont want casinos to force KYC at ANY POINT, but if you are going to go the KYC route you should force it upon registration not when cashing out. That is a completely sensible thought process.

of course
because if you win big and your kyc is refused for any reason you'll have to find a way to deal with it
solving it early is definitely the best way to go
much better to kill this problem early so you don't have to deal with it afterwards

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Quote from: Hhampuz on September 15, 2023, 05:25:37 AM

So you've deposited $48,000+ and only now found out that they "may" require KYC in the future and you are mad about it? What a non issue to be up in arms about, lol.

I am not mad at KYC thing, I know this long back. I am just stating, they will take as much as $48,000 without requiring kyc. Then they can nerf down with the bonuses. These fuckers should be in jail for their shady practices. Any person wearing their signature should be ashamed as well..haha

That's coming from a person who might not have invested more than $10 on a gambling site considering you are also firing your questions with a new account. If that had been the case then they would have been behind bars already. It's a licensed casino man, they have books to keep, and they have accounts to maintain all the time. If you think running a business is always a way to loot peeps then better not play and avoid the internet for that matter, If players have been playing on Duelbits for a long period of time then definitely they are getting paid. Now don't reply with shit that you only played for a few hundred dollars and stuff because you have no idea how much peeps invested and competed on Duelbits all the time. It's so bad that they always have to target the famous casinos around the forum. If that's a confirmed case for you, just switch it rather than taking out anger on your losses in the thread. Just a suggestion.

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I am not mad at KYC thing, I know this long back. I am just stating, they will take as much as $48,000 without requiring kyc. Then they can nerf down with the bonuses. These fuckers should be in jail for their shady practices. Any person wearing their signature should be ashamed as well..haha

Isn't it what Duelbits mentioned in their Terms of Service regarding the KYC procedure? where every user will eventually be asked to complete it maybe after 1 deposit or even 100, Personally It’s been like a year or more without being asked for it and when they do I will verify my account because I know the rules. But in your opinion do you believe that all casinos should stop and refrain from allowing deposits until a user's account is fully verified? Following this logic let's consider an example where 1000 users join today and each of them must submit their documents and pass the KYC process before making a deposit before allowing them to gamble. Out of these users only 100 will deposit and play once their accounts are verified by the team. The point here is why burden the team with verifying accounts more often and delaying many gamblers for a day or two before they can start playing, when the current rules only require KYC for depositing users?
I understand that you may have lost some funds while gambling but that's totally your responsibility, and none of us should be ashamed for wearing signatures of a legitimate casino.

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Quote from: Solosanz on September 15, 2023, 08:50:39 AM

Quote from: Coin_trader on September 15, 2023, 07:47:47 AM

If I may interject here. How the heck requiring KYC on random basis is worst than asking KYC upfront? You can always voluntarily KYC your account the moment you finish your registration.

That always been a non sense attack when there's someone complain about KYC problem, they will say it's better for the casino or the gambler to complete KYC before making a deposit. But you will see they're saying I don't like KYC in the another thread and asking a casino to not force asking KYC Cheesy

I think if someone is want to gamble in centralized casino, just accept if they would ask your KYC in the future.

Your comment makes no sense.
They are saying they dont want casinos to force KYC at ANY POINT, but if you are going to go the KYC route you should force it upon registration not when cashing out. That is a completely sensible thought process.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on September 15, 2023, 07:47:47 AM

Quote from: degengmmbler on September 15, 2023, 04:01:23 AM

I'm not sure how other casinos work but stake for example requires KYC upfront. Duelbits ToS just states that at any point they can KYC a withdrawal.
They'll gladly take your money and let you gamble but once it comes to cashing out they can decide to hold it until you verify?

Very shady practice from a "legitimate" casino.
It is indefensible and duelbits should no longer be recommended.

If I may interject here. How the heck requiring KYC on random basis is worst than asking KYC upfront? You can always voluntarily KYC your account the moment you finish your registration.

They doesn't take your money but rather hold until you verify your account. If you don't like to hold your money by the KYC procedure then I suggest to do it earlier before you deposit any money since you already knew that they will ask KYC at some point. They are doing this to welcome players to try first their casino without scaring them away by the upfront KYC. I preferred this way instead of doing KYC upfront since you can try first the casino using small amount and move on if you didn't like it without providing your ID upfront.

They are not doing it to welcome new users. All these casinos are the exact same with different layout, they all use the same providers and even the same gaming license. They are all rip offs of each other.
Every crypto casino ever that was a scam or intended on exit scamming did the same thing. Let you deposit and play without any issue and would even let you withdraw small amounts, but if you ever won a big amount they would suddenly freeze your funds and make you go in circles with verification hoping you eventually give up. I am not saying duelbits will exit scam but their approach to this is very shady.

Nothing about this is defensible. I am simply letting everyone who like to play on NON KYC crypto casinos to leave duelbits immediately. If you dont care about KYC then do your thing, but at that point you could just go to stake <<< the reason duelbits is really doing it this way.

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Quote from: AbuBhakar on September 15, 2023, 09:07:50 AM

Quote from: kingbj21 on September 14, 2023, 10:19:03 PM

I am warning potential gamblers to stay away from this shady casino.

I have given enough evidence to backup my claim, I was very active from March to may while my subscription was still active and never received any promised promotional freebie Fridays.

Warning for what? Your concern is about unsubscribing to promotion which the support already gave you an answer. Also, your screenshot doesn’t show any promise reward. You are the only one assuming that support gave you.

Quote from: kingbj21 on September 14, 2023, 10:19:03 PM

just because they are paying you peanuts you shouldn't blindly trust these bastards, morever in my eye anyone wearing duelbits signature should be ashamed of backing up this company.

You are just new here that’s why you can said that, Clearly you don’t know how good the trust history of Duelbits here in terms of solving all serious issue against them.

Your attack on the signature only proves that you can’t deal to discuss a logical argument.

Quote from: kingbj21 on September 14, 2023, 10:19:03 PM

What solid proof else do you need idiot? fuck off!

You are ordering me something where I have provided enough proofs already.

You should stay on your scam thread if you want to avoid all constructive criticism against your post here. We are regularly hanging out on this thread even without your concern. Maybe you are the one to back off.

Your proof is irrelevant. It doesn’t connect on what’s your case which is the unsubscribing on promotion.

No point in arguing with an idiot!

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on September 14, 2023, 09:42:01 AM

Quote from: kingbj21 on September 13, 2023, 11:12:53 AM

Just because they pay you for your signature, you shouldn't blindly support them. These fuckers will do whatever they want if they decide to shadow ban you. So don't be a silly dumb fuck.

In this world, there are two things that are most difficult for humans to do. First apologize for admitting their own mistakes and secondly regarding paying debts.
The two other most delicious things in this world that are too often done, talking about other people behind and eating/drinking for free.

I and Lucasgabd and there are still many people who use duelbs signatures are paid by them and we are not as stupid as what you think in promoting a site. Support given because it is considered true of what is meant.

this!
as much as I know some people will have their judgement clouded by money it makes a bit less sense to think we'd have it here due to signature campaign payments, specially because duelbits is not even the campaign that pays more in the forum, there are plenty of other opportunities.

Quote from: AbuBhakar on September 14, 2023, 12:25:52 PM

Quote from: kingbj21 on September 14, 2023, 11:26:49 AM

Quote from: aylabadia05 on September 14, 2023, 09:42:01 AM

Quote from: kingbj21 on September 13, 2023, 11:12:53 AM

Just because they pay you for your signature, you shouldn't blindly support them. These fuckers will do whatever they want if they decide to shadow ban you. So don't be a silly dumb fuck.

In this world, there are two things that are most difficult for humans to do. First apologize for admitting their own mistakes and secondly regarding paying debts.
The two other most delicious things in this world that are too often done, talking about other people behind and eating/drinking for free.

I and Lucasgabd and there are still many people who use duelbs signatures are paid by them and we are not as stupid as what you think in promoting a site. Support given because it is considered true of what is meant.

Just increasing your post count by irrelevant posts so you can be paid more by these scammers? I don't get it mate.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62837634

Here is another proof that Duelbits are 'Lowlife fraudsters' they removed all my previous messages after this conversation.

I have deposited $48,000k so far. Wtf are you talking mate?

You attack their signature connection to Duelbits so his reaction is based on that ground. You are also spreading a frequent tirade here about duelbits while you have already dedicated scam accusation thread which you clearly just copying the content here to gain attention.

Your case relies whether the support is lying about unsubscribing your participation to promotion or you manually unsubscribe which no one will know who's telling the truth unless someone will look on Duelbits log. Duelbits is operating here in forum for many year without an unresolved serious problem. It's normal that we side or defend Duelbits on matter like this that you can't provide solid proof regarding your accusations.

even 48k, why would they scam you for this if they make much more by running a honest business?

Quote from: Solosanz on September 15, 2023, 08:50:39 AM

Quote from: Coin_trader on September 15, 2023, 07:47:47 AM

If I may interject here. How the heck requiring KYC on random basis is worst than asking KYC upfront? You can always voluntarily KYC your account the moment you finish your registration.

That always been a non sense attack when there's someone complain about KYC problem, they will say it's better for the casino or the gambler to complete KYC before making a deposit. But you will see they're saying I don't like KYC in the another thread and asking a casino to not force asking KYC Cheesy

I think if someone is want to gamble in centralized casino, just accept if they would ask your KYC in the future.

this is indeed the best way to go

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Quote from: kingbj21 on September 14, 2023, 10:19:03 PM

I am warning potential gamblers to stay away from this shady casino.

I have given enough evidence to backup my claim, I was very active from March to may while my subscription was still active and never received any promised promotional freebie Fridays.

Warning for what? Your concern is about unsubscribing to promotion which the support already gave you an answer. Also, your screenshot doesn’t show any promise reward. You are the only one assuming that support gave you.

Quote from: kingbj21 on September 14, 2023, 10:19:03 PM

just because they are paying you peanuts you shouldn't blindly trust these bastards, morever in my eye anyone wearing duelbits signature should be ashamed of backing up this company.

You are just new here that’s why you can said that, Clearly you don’t know how good the trust history of Duelbits here in terms of solving all serious issue against them.

Your attack on the signature only proves that you can’t deal to discuss a logical argument.

Quote from: kingbj21 on September 14, 2023, 10:19:03 PM

What solid proof else do you need idiot? fuck off!

You are ordering me something where I have provided enough proofs already.

You should stay on your scam thread if you want to avoid all constructive criticism against your post here. We are regularly hanging out on this thread even without your concern. Maybe you are the one to back off.

Your proof is irrelevant. It doesn’t connect on what’s your case which is the unsubscribing on promotion.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on September 15, 2023, 07:47:47 AM

If I may interject here. How the heck requiring KYC on random basis is worst than asking KYC upfront? You can always voluntarily KYC your account the moment you finish your registration.

That always been a non sense attack when there's someone complain about KYC problem, they will say it's better for the casino or the gambler to complete KYC before making a deposit. But you will see they're saying I don't like KYC in the another thread and asking a casino to not force asking KYC Cheesy

I think if someone is want to gamble in centralized casino, just accept if they would ask your KYC in the future.

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Quote from: kingbj21 on September 15, 2023, 05:23:28 AM

Exactly. I have asked support the same question. They were like, we can ask KYC whenver we want, but they let me deposit $48,000k without any KYC. Very shady casino, henry from their support is a low life fucker.

It's a good step for you to ask their support before making a large deposit of around $48,000 because you could face problems with KYC, but there is also some truth in some friends here who say that you should be careful to avoid KYC in the end, because you You never know that in the future there will be changes to the requirements and you won't be able to complain about it again later here.

I think it's a bit big amount if you get a big win from your big capital and then withdraw the money not sure it will be safe from KYC, I hope you will be fine and withdraw money without KYC and it's free, I've never gambled with big money like that and withdraw big money on this site, but the advice is to KYC your account for something unwanted later even if they haven't asked for it at this time, the rules can change at any time and you could get new problems that you never imagined before.

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Quote from: degengmmbler on September 15, 2023, 04:01:23 AM

I'm not sure how other casinos work but stake for example requires KYC upfront. Duelbits ToS just states that at any point they can KYC a withdrawal.
They'll gladly take your money and let you gamble but once it comes to cashing out they can decide to hold it until you verify?

Very shady practice from a "legitimate" casino.
It is indefensible and duelbits should no longer be recommended.

If I may interject here. How the heck requiring KYC on random basis is worst than asking KYC upfront? You can always voluntarily KYC your account the moment you finish your registration.

They doesn't take your money but rather hold until you verify your account. If you don't like to hold your money by the KYC procedure then I suggest to do it earlier before you deposit any money since you already knew that they will ask KYC at some point. They are doing this to welcome players to try first their casino without scaring them away by the upfront KYC. I preferred this way instead of doing KYC upfront since you can try first the casino using small amount and move on if you didn't like it without providing your ID upfront.

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Meh.

So you've deposited $48,000+ and only now found out that they "may" require KYC in the future and you are mad about it? What a non issue to be up in arms about, lol.

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Quote from: degengmmbler on September 15, 2023, 04:01:23 AM

Quote from: Beparanf on September 15, 2023, 03:55:33 AM

Quote from: degengmmbler on September 14, 2023, 06:57:52 PM

A duelbits mod confirmed everyone will be forced to KYC at some point.

And no one is denying this facts since this is stated on the ToS which you need to read before you register an account. It’s you who neglected on reading those terms and what’s really a shocker here that there are some people that is not aware that KYC is inevitable when you are playing on a licensed casino because the law dictates it.

This is not new or big news. In fact, other casino already enforcing mandatory KYC to all their new and existing customers.

I'm not sure how other casinos work but stake for example requires KYC upfront. Duelbits ToS just states that at any point they can KYC a withdrawal.
They'll gladly take your money and let you gamble but once it comes to cashing out they can decide to hold it until you verify?

Very shady practice from a "legitimate" casino.
It is indefensible and duelbits should no longer be recommended.

Exactly. I have asked support the same question. They were like, we can ask KYC whenver we want, but they let me deposit $48,000k without any KYC. Very shady casino, henry from their support is a low life fucker.

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Quote from: Beparanf on September 15, 2023, 03:55:33 AM

Quote from: degengmmbler on September 14, 2023, 06:57:52 PM

A duelbits mod confirmed everyone will be forced to KYC at some point.

And no one is denying this facts since this is stated on the ToS which you need to read before you register an account. It’s you who neglected on reading those terms and what’s really a shocker here that there are some people that is not aware that KYC is inevitable when you are playing on a licensed casino because the law dictates it.

This is not new or big news. In fact, other casino already enforcing mandatory KYC to all their new and existing customers.

I'm not sure how other casinos work but stake for example requires KYC upfront. Duelbits ToS just states that at any point they can KYC a withdrawal.
They'll gladly take your money and let you gamble but once it comes to cashing out they can decide to hold it until you verify?

Very shady practice from a "legitimate" casino.
It is indefensible and duelbits should no longer be recommended.

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Quote from: degengmmbler on September 14, 2023, 06:57:52 PM

A duelbits mod confirmed everyone will be forced to KYC at some point.

And no one is denying this facts since this is stated on the ToS which you need to read before you register an account. It’s you who neglected on reading those terms and what’s really a shocker here that there are some people that is not aware that KYC is inevitable when you are playing on a licensed casino because the law dictates it.

This is not new or big news. In fact, other casino already enforcing mandatory KYC to all their new and existing customers.

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Quote from: babygun on September 14, 2023, 07:18:33 PM

Quote from: degengmmbler on September 14, 2023, 06:57:52 PM

A duelbits mod confirmed everyone will be forced to KYC at some point.

In the near future, all casinos will have put KYC in place so this will become the new reality. Getting asked for KYC already happens a lot on multiple crypto casino sites even for small withdrawals. As said before, I don’t have any issue in giving my KYC to a reputable casino such as Duelbits.

actually it is not a word force because it is already written in the TOS about KYC verification , though it may not implemented strictly yet the chance of being asked is always there so be ready in giving yours before even considering to deposit and play.
like what mostly says here, if you don't wanna go through KYC then play somewhere else that does not ask for KYC as there are still plenty out there .
the best thing is deal in casino that you feel contented.

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