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I've also posted a business/investment plan on Devtome re. http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_bounty_now#investment_business_plan

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=development_exchange

Feel free to rip into and criticise it.
...You receive 12 shares for your plan.  There is one investment plan bounty remaining for 12 shares, and then the next five will be six shares.
os gets 1/5 of a share for his button.  Congrats on your first bounty, Thanos!
Cheers. There's a potential future (informal) bounty deriving from those shares in case anyone reads it and is interested.

9 shares seems cool for Hunterbunter's work - good job.
legendary
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Here's my investment plan, based on arbitrage. http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=my_crypto_investment_plan_-_arbitrage

You get the last 12 share bounty for the investment plan.

Here's my investment plan, based on holding Cryptostocks : here.

You will receive the first 6 share bounty for the investment plan.

...
If you just put the round number in without a name, it'll come up with all the shares for that block - missing the bitcoin and devcoin share lists, because they were labelled differently to the others and I'm too tired now to figure out how to include them (Unthinkingbit - any chance you can put a 1-BitcoinShareList or something for the share list peeps in the account files? The idea is just to make it a bit easier to find stats on specific users, and I spent all day on it and I'm tired now so it probably has a few bugs in it still. If you find any tell me what you entered and I'll try to fix. If it stops you from using the site clear your cookie for it and it should let you mess around again.

There wasn't a bounty for this; I just thought it was interesting, although I didn't realize how long It'd take me. Is it too late to propose one for it?  Cheesy

Nice job, Hunterbunter!  The only thing I found that was missing was that I couldn't find my word counts or bounty information.  (most of the time it showed I got 6/5 of a share for marketing and sometimes rating earnings).  As for a bounty, how about 9 shares?

May I propose a 9 share award for Hunterbunter's site?

EDIT: I figured it out; my name is listed as smeagol and Smeagol on the files!  Smiley
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Hey guys,

I've added a "User Payments by Round" section to http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com/ which some of you might be interested in.

You put in a name (case sensitive - must match account.csv files) and the round you're interested in and it'll come up with the share tally for that round and the links to all the relevant pages if they exist. From a personal perspective, it's an easy way to see how many shares you can expect towards the end of a round / start of of a payment block without having to trawl through the receiver files manually.

If you just put the round number in without a name, it'll come up with all the shares for that block - missing the bitcoin and devcoin share lists, because they were labelled differently to the others and I'm too tired now to figure out how to include them (Unthinkingbit - any chance you can put a 1-BitcoinShareList or something for the share list peeps in the account files? The idea is just to make it a bit easier to find stats on specific users, and I spent all day on it and I'm tired now so it probably has a few bugs in it still. If you find any tell me what you entered and I'll try to fix. If it stops you from using the site clear your cookie for it and it should let you mess around again.

There wasn't a bounty for this; I just thought it was interesting, although I didn't realize how long It'd take me. Is it too late to propose one for it?  Cheesy




I'm new to Devtome and I don't seem to be on there.  My user name is zachofiddle and I put that in for round 31 and it comes up with 0.0 shares.  Can someone please make sure I am added correctly?  I published a novella onto Devtome a couple of weeks ago so I think I should be in this round.  Dinkleberg was the admin who set up my account.  Thanks.
legendary
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I do not give financial advice .. do your own DD
Hey guys,

I've added a "User Payments by Round" section to http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com/ which some of you might be interested in.

You put in a name (case sensitive - must match account.csv files) and the round you're interested in and it'll come up with the share tally for that round and the links to all the relevant pages if they exist. From a personal perspective, it's an easy way to see how many shares you can expect towards the end of a round / start of of a payment block without having to trawl through the receiver files manually.

If you just put the round number in without a name, it'll come up with all the shares for that block - missing the bitcoin and devcoin share lists, because they were labelled differently to the others and I'm too tired now to figure out how to include them (Unthinkingbit - any chance you can put a 1-BitcoinShareList or something for the share list peeps in the account files? The idea is just to make it a bit easier to find stats on specific users, and I spent all day on it and I'm tired now so it probably has a few bugs in it still. If you find any tell me what you entered and I'll try to fix. If it stops you from using the site clear your cookie for it and it should let you mess around again.

There wasn't a bounty for this; I just thought it was interesting, although I didn't realize how long It'd take me. Is it too late to propose one for it?  Cheesy



I entered my Devtome username and it worked correctly.

Very cool...
legendary
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All I know that is one of the most amazing poems I have ever read!!!  Wink (my poem)    lol

Bravo maestro!  Grin
legendary
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How is this poem at devtome open source?

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=epic_love_poem

Please explain this. Is such a poem open source, because I can go ahead and change words etc?

One would have to contact a lawyer experienced with copyright to know how much of a change one would have to make to a piece of literature to call it their own. My guess is that it could be challenged after a certain percentage of it had been changed. This is not the case with Open Source source code.

It is also not the case with music. If you released a piece of music under Open Source I could go through it changing every 8th note (mean the one after 7 not the actual eighth notes) and then copyright it as my own. Granted it would not be exactly like the original piece but it would be darn close. You could not do this with an Open Source program.

Don't I destroy the work of this poet if I just switch words around as it pleases me?

The original author as well as many of the audience may feel so; yet that is totally subjective and has nothing to do with Open Source. There is no such value judgement in the license.

I can also give people access to the MIDI-Files and all the tracks (if for example my music has 8 tracks, people can download all tracks separately)... So people can remix and mashup my music and potentially (if they know what they are doing) create something new.

That is certainly getting closer yet because of the unique laws surrounding music copyrights tampering can mean you end up owning it and take the finished tampered piece out of Open Source.

The poem on devtome is free too, won't you agree?

Yes, because it would fall under the copyright laws surrounding literature. Yet a modified version of the piece may well not be free and may become proprietary at a certain percentage of change. A lawyer would have to be consulted to confirm that theory.

I think we can all agree that everything that is posted as open source is also always free.

Software without question. Literature at least in it's original form. Yet releasing to public domain would have the same affect.

But not everything that is free is open source. But artists can make their art more or less open source by giving access to all work material. But this is difficult if part of their work material is in their brain.


Therein is the rub. That is probably why the Creative Commons licensing came into existence. It seems to me a more common sense copyright for pieces of art, be they musical or literary.

- Nova

Thanks for your detailled answer.

I agree with all you said, also I share this basic fear about some asshole taking my free open source music, changing it slightly and then go and copyright it.

This shows why copyright is a completely evil troll-like system, and has to disappear from the face of the earth.
Stupid government invention to stifle the progress of human innovation, that's what it is.
legendary
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Happy new year all you guys.

I have to say I have come to love this coin more than any other coin, because it makes sense, is undervalued and has much potential.

2014 will be extreme.
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Hey guys,

I've added a "User Payments by Round" section to http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com/ which some of you might be interested in.

You put in a name (case sensitive - must match account.csv files) and the round you're interested in and it'll come up with the share tally for that round and the links to all the relevant pages if they exist. From a personal perspective, it's an easy way to see how many shares you can expect towards the end of a round / start of of a payment block without having to trawl through the receiver files manually.

If you just put the round number in without a name, it'll come up with all the shares for that block - missing the bitcoin and devcoin share lists, because they were labelled differently to the others and I'm too tired now to figure out how to include them (Unthinkingbit - any chance you can put a 1-BitcoinShareList or something for the share list peeps in the account files? The idea is just to make it a bit easier to find stats on specific users, and I spent all day on it and I'm tired now so it probably has a few bugs in it still. If you find any tell me what you entered and I'll try to fix. If it stops you from using the site clear your cookie for it and it should let you mess around again.

There wasn't a bounty for this; I just thought it was interesting, although I didn't realize how long It'd take me. Is it too late to propose one for it?  Cheesy



Good job, that information seems much clearer than my d.evco.in/charity log.

as a remind, if you retrieve data from d.evco.in/charity, remember not depend on the data on my server, cause the server may be down, the script may be generating new data, the data my be corrupt of an io errror, from time to time. you could copy data back to your server and then analysis it...
hero member
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Hey guys,

I've added a "User Payments by Round" section to http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com/ which some of you might be interested in.

You put in a name (case sensitive - must match account.csv files) and the round you're interested in and it'll come up with the share tally for that round and the links to all the relevant pages if they exist. From a personal perspective, it's an easy way to see how many shares you can expect towards the end of a round / start of of a payment block without having to trawl through the receiver files manually.

If you just put the round number in without a name, it'll come up with all the shares for that block - missing the bitcoin and devcoin share lists, because they were labelled differently to the others and I'm too tired now to figure out how to include them (Unthinkingbit - any chance you can put a 1-BitcoinShareList or something for the share list peeps in the account files? The idea is just to make it a bit easier to find stats on specific users, and I spent all day on it and I'm tired now so it probably has a few bugs in it still. If you find any tell me what you entered and I'll try to fix. If it stops you from using the site clear your cookie for it and it should let you mess around again.

There wasn't a bounty for this; I just thought it was interesting, although I didn't realize how long It'd take me. Is it too late to propose one for it?  Cheesy

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I happened across a discussion of forum software in another thread, and in this post:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4248328

they say SM is deprecated; I think they mean Simple Machines forum, so thought I should mention that here as one of our outstanding bounties also mentions simple machines forum so I am wondering why it is deprecated and why, if it is deprecated, we would be insisting upon it in one of our bounties.

-MarkM-


It appears the phpBB is not exactly new. Version 1.0.0 was released in 2000. They are now up to version 3.1 with, sadly, no backward compatibility to some of the older versions. Development on 3.2 is currently underway.

More details can be found at https://www.phpbb.com/

Happily, other than setting up a copy of SimpleMachines my attention on the bounty project has been with the email wrapper. As my wrapper is in PHP, anyway, it seems a minor detail if the choice of forum software is changed for the bounty at the present time.

You can compare the two forum packages on my server via:

SimpleMachines: http://trollkeep.com/forum/

phpBB : http://trollkeep.com/phpBB3/

It would be nice if a decision could be made within the next week as to which package is preferred.

- Nova
legendary
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Cool. I wondered what they even meant by deprecated, maybe they just meant they themselves didn't happen to like it.

-MarkM-
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I happened across a discussion of forum software in another thread, and in this post:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4248328

they say SM is deprecated; I think they mean Simple Machines forum, so thought I should mention that here as one of our outstanding bounties also mentions simple machines forum so I am wondering why it is deprecated and why, if it is deprecated, we would be insisting upon it in one of our bounties.

-MarkM-

I didn't find any evidence that Simple Machines Forum is deprecated. The review is good:
http://www.forum-software.org/simple-machines-2/review

It is the second most popular at 29%, PHPBB is first at 43%:
https://www.siteground.com/forum_software.htm

It's on many forum lists, like:
http://hellboundbloggers.com/2010/05/18/free-open-source-forums/

Simple Machines Forum 2 is open source, with the New BSD (3-clause) license:
http://www.simplemachines.org/about/opensource.php

Something has to be picked, and Simple Machines Forum 2 is good enough. If there is evidence that Simple Machines Forum is going down I'll look at it.
legendary
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yes
I can imagine that someone more handy than me figures out how all data available at d.evco.in/charity can automatically be parsed into beautiful pie or 3D charts. Moving Devcoin from the nerd phase to consumer level is essential for progress.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
I happened across a discussion of forum software in another thread, and in this post:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4248328

they say SM is deprecated; I think they mean Simple Machines forum, so thought I should mention that here as one of our outstanding bounties also mentions simple machines forum so I am wondering why it is deprecated and why, if it is deprecated, we would be insisting upon it in one of our bounties.

-MarkM-
legendary
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I do not give financial advice .. do your own DD
December 31, 2013, 11:02:12 PM
Where is that site that shows payout information like how much a share is worth this round etc? Shouldnt this info be on our website under "Earnings and Payouts"Huh
http://d.evco.in/charity/

No after many googlw searches found it:

http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com/

I suggest we add this info to the new devcoin website under earnings and payouts.

Also we should try to integrate the dvc usd ticker intothe website somewhere too..

http://dvcusdchart.blisteringdevelopers.com/

Neither of those links work. The charity link is where the receiver files generated from the python script go. At least I think so. Someone can correct me of I am wrong.

My DNS host had a brief outage earlier which caused the names to not resolve (across all mine and other's sites). The site is up again now.

I know that it is just a simple download to check the receiver files on a daily basis but does anyone think a daily updated blog would be a good idea? It could be used to make the receiver file information a little less "tech" looking for newbies. I was just thinking this because the information in the file is freely available to the public anyways.

Is there anything you want from there that isn't coins per share? Like breakdown by group (bounties / devtome / admin / marketing etc)? I'm already getting the account file, so I could probably put the breakdown in too...although that might start cluttering the page up a little bit.

I think people would rather see a simple HTML table that is dynamically updated everyday (draw people to the site) than parse some random csv file and try to extract statistics in their head. How do you know how much each share is worth, where is that written in the charity folder? How do you know how much time there is left to apply for shares for the next round?

I do that now on the devcoin countdown - http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com - there's an estimate on the coins/share for the active round (based on one of the daily updated account.csv from d.evco.in/charity/). I could do it from the receiver file, but it's basically the same. The only thing is it's not dynamically updated on devtome itself, but would a link suffice if it can't be done dynamically on devtome?





I am used to looking at the files now and it isn't a problem for me to read them anymore. I was just thinking about how newer people might be frustrated by reading it because it looks like a bunch of computer data.

 At a later date, it might be interesting to see all of the share data populated on each persons Devtome account when logged in.
hero member
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December 31, 2013, 10:37:57 PM
Where is that site that shows payout information like how much a share is worth this round etc? Shouldnt this info be on our website under "Earnings and Payouts"Huh
http://d.evco.in/charity/

No after many googlw searches found it:

http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com/

I suggest we add this info to the new devcoin website under earnings and payouts.

Also we should try to integrate the dvc usd ticker intothe website somewhere too..

http://dvcusdchart.blisteringdevelopers.com/

Neither of those links work. The charity link is where the receiver files generated from the python script go. At least I think so. Someone can correct me of I am wrong.

My DNS host had a brief outage earlier which caused the names to not resolve (across all mine and other's sites). The site is up again now.

I know that it is just a simple download to check the receiver files on a daily basis but does anyone think a daily updated blog would be a good idea? It could be used to make the receiver file information a little less "tech" looking for newbies. I was just thinking this because the information in the file is freely available to the public anyways.

Is there anything you want from there that isn't coins per share? Like breakdown by group (bounties / devtome / admin / marketing etc)? I'm already getting the account file, so I could probably put the breakdown in too...although that might start cluttering the page up a little bit.

I think people would rather see a simple HTML table that is dynamically updated everyday (draw people to the site) than parse some random csv file and try to extract statistics in their head. How do you know how much each share is worth, where is that written in the charity folder? How do you know how much time there is left to apply for shares for the next round?

I do that now on the devcoin countdown - http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com - there's an estimate on the coins/share for the active round (based on one of the daily updated account.csv from d.evco.in/charity/). I could do it from the receiver file, but it's basically the same. The only thing is it's not dynamically updated on devtome itself, but would a link suffice if it can't be done dynamically on devtome?


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December 31, 2013, 09:48:24 PM
Hello,

I'm a newly registered writer for devtome but I can't get a wallet set up properly. I have windows and I've tried the three Windows links here http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=how_to_get_setup_earning_devcoins_by_writing but no luck. When I download the wallet and run it, nothing happens. However, I can run task manager and it appears as a "background" program, but not as a running program.

Thoughts on how to correct this?

Thanks,

Aaron
Have you given it a while to connect to the network and download the blockchain? If so, is 'Devcoin' listed under 'Applications' in task manager - highlight it and select 'Switch to'. Otherwise check to see if it's in your tray - you can then change the default setting so it doesn't minimise to tray if you want.

It might have needed a while to connect, its working now! Thanks for the quick response.
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December 31, 2013, 08:40:22 PM
Where is that site that shows payout information like how much a share is worth this round etc? Shouldnt this info be on our website under "Earnings and Payouts"Huh
http://d.evco.in/charity/

No after many googlw searches found it:

http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com/

I suggest we add this info to the new devcoin website under earnings and payouts.

Also we should try to integrate the dvc usd ticker intothe website somewhere too..

http://dvcusdchart.blisteringdevelopers.com/

Neither of those links work. The charity link is where the receiver files generated from the python script go. At least I think so. Someone can correct me of I am wrong.

Work for me they take a few seconds to load..
These are dynamic pages that will update so its better than simply posting csv files as stats are not done and thats what I wanted to see.

This way you wont have a descrepancy between official round info vs site info because someone didnt bother
updating the website for a few months.

I cannot quite catch what you need.... for the current round (paying out) info, you should refer to official https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity , and for the next round (that changing from time to time), you may find the infos from http://d.evco.in/charity , and I update the script every day at  about UTC+2.  Isn't that enough?


I think people would rather see a simple HTML table that is dynamically updated everyday (draw people to the site) than parse some random csv file and try to extract statistics in their head. How do you know how much each share is worth, where is that written in the charity folder? How do you know how much time there is left to apply for shares for the next round?

OK, got you.  I think I can extract some important info, and write to devtome.com... Let me check if there's any API for devtome.
hero member
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December 31, 2013, 08:37:20 PM
I think people would rather see a simple HTML table that is dynamically updated everyday (draw people to the site) than parse some random csv file and try to extract statistics in their head. How do you know how much each share is worth, where is that written in the charity folder? How do you know how much time there is left to apply for shares for the next round?
There's a rolling receiver_summary text file with a breakdown of current dvc per share for the current round
legendary
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December 31, 2013, 08:34:39 PM
Can someone please tell me how to do a raw hex dump of the Devcoin genesis block?

Similar to the bitcoin hex dump https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block (Raw Block Data)

Jag
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