Topic: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated - page 372. (Read 1059181 times)

Any closer to being fixed? I've been working on my blog, and in the past 2 days I've gotten more views than any 1 month in the past year (over 1,000).

I certainly would like to see coloured coins developed (as you know).  It will be huge in the equity-crowd funding arena which is imho the where the next big wave of web development will be.  Also, being a devtome writer I'm happy for Devcoin to be involved, it seems like a fitting project seeing as devtome is supposed to support all kinds of development, not just writing.  Hopefully devcoin bounties will attract programmers to this project.

Recently I've been trying to find developers to help me to complete colored coins client implementation, with no success: I'm now working on it alone.

I know that there developers well-versed in cryptocurrencies in this thread, so I'm asking here too.

Brief intro: colored coins can be used to represent ownership of securities or smart property; they can exist in existing blockchain (Bitcoin/Litecoin/Devcoin) and do not require changes to protocol; they do put any data extra into the blockchain they use, and so transactions involving colored coins do not bloat blockchain any more than normal trade transactions; colored coins can be used to implement decentralized exchanges for stocks, bonds, etc

What: We already have several working prototypes, now we need to make an implementation which is actually usable. This involves optimization, improvements to user interface, security-related improvements etc. The most promising implementation now (in terms of what can be completed quickly) is so-called NGCCC (Next-generation colored coin client). It is implemented in Python, has small code base, works together with bitcoind.

Why: Well, people were asking for a thing like this for quite some time, but complete implementation have been delayed for various reasons. (We actually had a fully functional prototype back in January.) Right now, BTCT.co is closing, and issuers are looking for a new home, so it would be nice to offer them decentralized exchange. Another reason is competition from Mastercoin: Mastercoin aims to offer something similar, but is worse in term of decentralization. So I think it's better to complete the good thing until the bad thing takes off.

The deal: I'm looking for Python developers who understand what it takes to implement a cryptocurrency wallet. We need to implement this thing as soon as possible, so I need developers ASAP. There is 70 BTC compensation pool, it will be spread over several milestones and will be awarded to developers proportional to their contributions. I'm also looking for JS developers for another implementation, but it is lower priority. If interested, please PM me.

How is this relevant for Devcoin: OK, since it is a Devcoin thread, I have to explain why it is relevant, so:

• We can discuss colored coins on Devcoin blockchain: I believe it would be beneficial to Devcoin as it will allow Devcoin users to do crowdfunding and whatnot, there is a plenty of creative uses. It won't significantly affect Devcoin blockchain unless becomes wildly popular. However, there might be  a challenge in getting it to work on Devcoin chain, as devcoind is based on old version of bitcoind. (Right?)
• I'm going to request Devcoin bounties (shares) for this project, as it is an important open source project (IMHO)
• Developers can request to be paid in Devcoins (partially), in might be able to pay a bit more (e.g. out of Devcoin bounties), and BTC->DVC conversion can help Devcoin price a bit

Can anyone predict when round 28 will likely be paid out?

My "username of password was wrong"apparently

Asset values expressed in DeVCoins: http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/latestrates.inc

Also listed at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/indevcoins.html and http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/sharesindvc.html

And plotted in colours at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/plotdvc.html and http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/plotsharesindvc.html

Also of course DeVCoins are among the coins people like to use in conjunction with http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=cpu_mining

But yeah its really all just part of one meta-game, the Galactic Milieu so I guess you could count it all as one thing.

-MarkM-

Cool and useful ways to invest them.  Think about all the amazing things you can buy with Bitcoins.  You can have them sitting in a CoinLenders account earning 22 percent interest, you can buy some stocks which pay out weekly or daily dividends on Bitfunder.  You can even buy shares in mcxNOW which pay out dividends in BTC and nine other cryptocurrencies every six hours.  If you have Bitcoins, you can easily grow them into more Bitcoins.  If you have Devcoins, well... for the most part, you first have to sell them for Bitcoins if you want to invest them, or you play the game of buying low and selling high, which definitely isn't for everyone.  There are a few "investments" you can do with Devcoin but it's easy to spend as much as you want to spend on them using the earnings from one round, and then what?  Actually, just having Devcoins sitting on the mxcNOW exchange collecting dust would allow them to earn a few more DVCs for you, so at least there you can hoard your DVCs and still have them doing something for you.

You want to increase demand for Devcoins?  Come up with cool things to do with them which will help people better their lives.  If it's a great opportunity that's only available for Devcoins, even better.

My opinion is that the people who buy Devcoins are either Devcoin supporters who want to improve the value of the coin, or they are speculators who figure that they can buy at 30 sat and sell later for 35 or 40.  But no one is buying them because there's something they want to do that they can only do with Devcoins.  And those of us who write are flooded with these things every month, millions and millions of them, but there just aren't too many places to spend so many, so you tend to want to unload them for something that you can spend or invest in very cool and interesting and hopefully profitable ways.  Some people hold onto them for a long time in the hopes that things will turn around and they can sell them for upwards of 200 sat.  And I'm holding on to some for that reason, but there's only so many million that you want to stockpile, the rest of which you want to turn into something that can go somewhere in the present.

People on this thread who have offered things for sale in exchange for Devcoins are the ones who are going to turn this around, and the more people who have something for sale for Devcoins, the more likely it is that eventually, Devcoins will be a crypto that people want to have and the exchange rate will reflect that.  That won't happen overnight, and anyone who wants to start a viable operation will need to fund that operation, and that will undoubtedly involve the sale of Devcoins if they have lots of them to sell.

I don't know much about computer gaming, but some have talked about the possibility of Devcoins being used as gaming tokens.  I think if they become the gaming token of choice for some major online interactive game, then that will fuel the demand, and the exchange rate will reflect that.  It strikes me as an easier way to create demand than other ways, but again I do not know computer gaming so I could be way off.  I also think there are people on this thread who are working on things like that, and I would love to get regular updates from them in plain English

Along the same lines I think Devcoins could be handy for keeping score on various barter networks, for example, they could be used on a babysitter exchange as babysitting tokens.  Maybe people who run those kinds of networks could be approached?  I think there would be some advantages to using a blockchain currency over just some internal point system.  In this situation, it would be very advantageous that you can buy a lot of them for next to nothing.

Personally, I wouldn't care too much how low the exchange rate was if it were stable.  If Devcoins are always going to be worth 30 sat apiece, then I could live with that.  Some people would decide writing for Devcoins wasn't worth it and those who do write would pick up more DVC/share and it would all even out.  But the part that makes me want to sell today rather than tomorrow is the concern that if they are 30 sat today, they'll be 28 sat tomorrow and 26 sat the next day, and so forth.  But of course that way of thinking can turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy which drops the price through the floor.  For this reason I try to hang onto my Devcoins until I have something specific I want to do with them (or the Bitcoins I trade them for), and then I sell enough to do that thing and then wait.  And I try to have the patience to place a sell order for higher than the highest buy price.  But every time I turn around there is something new I could do with Bitcoins that I can't do with Devcoins, and that creates demand for Bitcoins against Devcoins.  But give me something amazing I can do with my Devcoins as Devcoins and then it becomes a different game.

I'm having issues now too. Yesterday everything was fine. Now it says I have no account.

Are there devcoin-related sites/venues to publish open source music and art?

Same here. Username same as here. It did let me log in for some time a couple days ago, but for the past two days, can't login / can't reset password.

Please ask all open source developers to contact Metazilla to be added to the list.

@ Unthinkingbit

Request:

Please add the FarmBot project to the DVC receivers list:
http://wiki.farmbot.it/Welcome

@Jasinlee
Do you think thats gonna be usable for "houseprinting" ? :p

I got a list.  All then users seems to have legitimate names and emails, but are only in the "user" group.  Should I delete them?

PM your info if the site is not seeing you. I will get it fixed before I continue.

I could help some with getting rid of fake accounts.  However, at this time Devtome won't allow me to log in.  When I try the password reset option it then tells me it can't find me in the database.  Anyway, I'll have to be able to log in if I can be of much help

No your fine, those are the corrupt ones. We are doing this manually to avoid having people get deleted by accident though so yeah its tedious. The blank ones or ones with odd symbols just skip them. I usually just type in a letter for the search to pull up a list, then go through them.

Hey Jasin.

I am in admin, user manager.

When I search it returns me empty check boxes but with some of them with funny characters.  Am I doing something wrong?

I can add them manually if you want fuzzybear, also I will add a new account for you manually.

I still don't have access if someone resets my password to something generic then I can log in change it and delete some spam account

will be tomorrow as is late here now

I have 2 new requests for accounts as well... so guess i should message them to sign up again if their account already been deleted

Fuzzybear

Matt (and all new Devtome writers),

Right now, round 26 is paying out and will be until block 108,000.  Then from block 108,001 until block 112,000, round 27 will be paying out.  You are writing in round 28, which will start paying out in block 112,001.  There is a substantial delay between the time you start writing and the time you start getting paid.

As for your name being on the list, you're probably looking at the charity_28 file, and I know that file is not up to date for probably several reasons, including the current issues with the Devtome.  The equivalent file for round 27 was not up to date either and I'm not sure why.  When writing for Round 28 closes, and that will happen at block 109,300, a few days to a week later, UnthinkingBit runs some sort of script that essentially subtracts your cumulative word count from round 27 (which in your case will be zero) from your cumulative word count from round 28, and that determines your pay.  That script is different from whatever script is behind the charity files that are supposed to update daily, and it's Unthinkingbit's script that's the official one--the other one being unofficial but useful (when it works) for keeping track of how you're doing as the round progresses.  Around that time, you'll also get a test payment (of some random small amount) to your address as a way to check to make sure your wallet is working and ready to receive your generated shares.

This probably sounds very confusing, as it was to me when I started out.  The bottom line is that there is a process from the time you start writing to the time you start getting paid, and at first it looks like nothing's happening, but hang in there and keep writing, and once you experience it, it will make more sense.  Once you start getting paid, though, as long as you consistently write each round, the payments are generated daily and continuously.  It's definitely much more fun to keep writing when you are also getting paid, but think of your current efforts as priming the pump.  Once the flow starts, it won't stop until you stop writing (in which case it will stop about six weeks to two months later).