[DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated - page 374.

ranlo

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Quote from: Unthinkingbit on September 23, 2013, 10:38:03 PM

Sounds good. For the very few who do useful edits but do not want a user page, they can always ask an admin to make a new account.

Hmm, maybe it could go based on activity instead. If the user has been active, don't remove. I noticed the bots aren't making any posts/edits/etc. at all so that should kick them all out, while not affecting anyone who's there legitimately. Not sure how DokuWiki handles the tracking of activity though.

jasinlee

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Its as easy as 0, 1, 1, 2, 3

When the host has the ticket cleared I will get onto the user list clean up. Until then its pointless as it will just corrupt again most likely.

wiser

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Quote from: jasinlee on September 23, 2013, 10:24:29 PM

Those captchas are iframed (I think havent looked at it in a while) then filled out by humans. They still fill them in, its not truly automated. They pay people 0.00001 cents to fill them out.

People do this for 0.00001 cents??? Those captcha fillers really ought to unionize! LOL

Just as an FYI, I did try to log in just now, and I got a similar story to others. First, it told me my username or password was wrong. Then when I tried the password reset option, it told me it couldn't find the user in the database. But I'm in there, and at least one of my articles does show that I wrote it--at least when you go to an earlier revision.

Hope you guys can get this fixed soon. I'm really sorry about all the trouble.

Unthinkingbit

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Quote from: jasinlee on September 23, 2013, 10:04:35 PM

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I have never seen a perfect method of keeping them out. But considering everything, since we do not NEED people to register, our best offense is to remove the option for the registration so the site isnt pounded constantly. Now I am looking into filtering the user accounts out to remove the spam ones.

I agree, there is no need for people to be able to automatically register. The only way to register should be to ask a sign up admin.

Quote from: ranlo on September 23, 2013, 10:19:48 PM

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Select users that have empty user pages. That should cover it.

Sounds good. For the very few who do useful edits but do not want a user page, they can always ask an admin to make a new account.

ranlo

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Quote from: jasinlee on September 23, 2013, 10:24:29 PM

Those captchas are iframed (I think havent looked at it in a while) then filled out by humans. They still fill them in, its not truly automated. They pay people 0.00001 cents to fill them out.

But the captchas only work with certain types. You can just add a custom text box that requires something to be input. It won't be registered as a captcha but it, for all intents and purposes, is one.

jasinlee

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Its as easy as 0, 1, 1, 2, 3

Those captchas are iframed (I think havent looked at it in a while) then filled out by humans. They still fill them in, its not truly automated. They pay people 0.00001 cents to fill them out.

ranlo

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Quote from: jasinlee on September 23, 2013, 10:04:35 PM

Quote from: sidhujag on September 23, 2013, 09:53:34 PM

somethig similar?! Im sure online merchants are doing somethig to avoid
bots or have to bots been able to perpetrate all registration security out there?

I have never seen a perfect method of keeping them out. But considering everything, since we do not NEED people to register, our best offense is to remove the option for the registration so the site isnt pounded constantly. Now I am looking into filtering the user accounts out to remove the spam ones.

Select users that have empty user pages. That should cover it.

Also, for combating captchas, the best method I've seen so far is what Feathercoop did. Once a week they changed the captcha, and it was always something you had to look up. For example, "what is the largest known galaxy" and things like that. This ensured it required work to get the next one, and it killed the point of using a bot since you couldn't really automate things.

jasinlee

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Quote from: sidhujag on September 23, 2013, 09:53:34 PM

somethig similar?! Im sure online merchants are doing somethig to avoid
bots or have to bots been able to perpetrate all registration security out there?

I have never seen a perfect method of keeping them out. But considering everything, since we do not NEED people to register, our best offense is to remove the option for the registration so the site isnt pounded constantly. Now I am looking into filtering the user accounts out to remove the spam ones.

sidhujag

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somethig similar?! Im sure online merchants are doing somethig to avoid
bots or have to bots been able to perpetrate all registration security out there?

jasinlee

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Its as easy as 0, 1, 1, 2, 3

http://deathbycaptcha.com/user/login

Captchas are completely pointless now days.

sidhujag

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Quote from: jasinlee on September 23, 2013, 08:34:39 PM

It really is just bots. About 36k accounts actually. But since registration requires approval, they are just causing problems.

Cant we just add a captcha on the registration form?

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Quote from: jasinlee on September 23, 2013, 08:34:39 PM

It really is just bots. About 36k accounts actually. But since registration requires approval, they are just causing problems.

WHAT?!?!? Thousands of accounts?!?!?!

jasinlee

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Its as easy as 0, 1, 1, 2, 3

It really is just bots. About 36k accounts actually. But since registration requires approval, they are just causing problems.

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Quote from: wiser on September 23, 2013, 08:05:54 PM

Quote from: ranlo on September 23, 2013, 07:58:10 PM

Quote from: smeagol on September 23, 2013, 06:48:59 PM

Quote from: jasinlee on September 23, 2013, 03:41:14 PM

The host has admitted fault, but I am awaiting them to complete tickets that are open to correct the issues. After that we are going to go clean up the havoc caused by the bots.

Is there a way to implement a captcha to access the registration page?

That might help!

There's really no reason to allow self-registration. It does no good since you need to end given the "okay" from an admin prior to any of your posts holding value. Doing manual registration also makes it easier to ensure that new writers are handled properly, rather than skipped over.

I have noticed there are a lot of accounts signed up that aren't writers. Are those all bots? Or, is there any benefit to having an account that just allows you to read stuff?

I think some of them are older accounts, maybe from the "teen" rounds (13-19) that dropped off later.

wiser

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Quote from: ranlo on September 23, 2013, 07:58:10 PM

Quote from: smeagol on September 23, 2013, 06:48:59 PM

Quote from: jasinlee on September 23, 2013, 03:41:14 PM

The host has admitted fault, but I am awaiting them to complete tickets that are open to correct the issues. After that we are going to go clean up the havoc caused by the bots.

Is there a way to implement a captcha to access the registration page?

That might help!

There's really no reason to allow self-registration. It does no good since you need to end given the "okay" from an admin prior to any of your posts holding value. Doing manual registration also makes it easier to ensure that new writers are handled properly, rather than skipped over.

I have noticed there are a lot of accounts signed up that aren't writers. Are those all bots? Or, is there any benefit to having an account that just allows you to read stuff?

ranlo

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Quote from: smeagol on September 23, 2013, 06:48:59 PM

Quote from: jasinlee on September 23, 2013, 03:41:14 PM

The host has admitted fault, but I am awaiting them to complete tickets that are open to correct the issues. After that we are going to go clean up the havoc caused by the bots.

Is there a way to implement a captcha to access the registration page?

That might help!

There's really no reason to allow self-registration. It does no good since you need to end given the "okay" from an admin prior to any of your posts holding value. Doing manual registration also makes it easier to ensure that new writers are handled properly, rather than skipped over.

smeagol

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Quote from: jasinlee on September 23, 2013, 03:41:14 PM

The host has admitted fault, but I am awaiting them to complete tickets that are open to correct the issues. After that we are going to go clean up the havoc caused by the bots.

Is there a way to implement a captcha to access the registration page?

That might help!

jasinlee

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Its as easy as 0, 1, 1, 2, 3

The host has admitted fault, but I am awaiting them to complete tickets that are open to correct the issues. After that we are going to go clean up the havoc caused by the bots.

eeh

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It's off and on for me. Kind of strange.

shakezula

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Still broken for me, this shouldn't affect the next round's payouts, or will it?

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