Topic: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated - page 39. (Read 1058927 times)

Excellent brief about governance in Free Software projects FuzzyBear! Just let me add that I'm part of the Development team along Qtera. I don't know why I wasn't listed in the HR wiki, but you can see my commits to devcoin core here: https://github.com/devcoin/core/commits/master

Whatever..., take a breath tonight... tomorrow we have a lot of work to do for delivering round 99!

Go go Devcoin!!

- develCuy

Source code of devcoin.org is now on my server and just awaiting for MarkM to update the DNS records.

- develCuy

I am also sorry to see you go Ctya, you were always motivated and you have a great work ethic. It was a pleasure to work with you.  Thanks for everything dude

develcuy received the credentials for the devcoin.org hosting account today.  He should move the site and change the credentials right away.

novacadian received the credentials for the devtome.com hosting account today.  He should move the site and change the credentials right away.

You are welcome!
I came to DevCoin at a time that suited me and the project.
That time has passed.

This is the second round which has had a moritorium placed on all and any DevTome rewards for the reasons you have stated, FuzzyBear. The DVCs were accumulating for future use in the DevTome Budget. One can only speculate, yet my guess is that without the 50 shares being assigned to DevTome (down from 100 btw) that it would mean more DVCs for ctya's 25+ shares. Just an assumption on my part and with his resignation it is somewhat moot.

- Nova

Just catching up on a bit of backlog and seen the thread and discussion going on here.

I think the problem was 50 shares was being sent to the last historic share count of devtome where the user had not written any new content. That obviously needed to stop. Perhaps as there was disagreement for these funds to be sent to a user or group with no outline clearly explaining what the funds would be used for maybe burning the devcoins would have been a better option this round? As seems this has caused ctyx to feel the need to leave the dve community, this saddens after all the hard work I have seen ctyx produce recently for dvc.  

I should add for clarity that as like bitcoin, devcoin is open source, has no "official" leader or owner, rather we are a collective of people coming together to try create and share something we believe in enough to invest our time and effort into it. That said... the lead dev usually is the one driving the particular cryptocurrency as they are the one to implement the code changes and requests etc. If there is no lead dev then how is the project to develop and progress at all? I say this as ctyx is listed as the only Devcoin Developer on https://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_human_resources

Fuzzybear

This might be the worst time to see you go Ctya, but I hope that you will cooperate to transfer your duties to the admins team. I have created a new thread in the admins forum with my proposal, under the Operations battle front (sub-forum).

That said, I'm still thankful to you for all the key contributions you did to the Devcoin Project, you are really helpful when you want it. It is unfortunate to see you go this way.

- develCuy

Thanks for everything you did, ctya.

UTB is right, DeVCoin is worth very little, but the accounting fees and risks are still high. It's a lot of hassle for little gain.
I am resigning from DeVCoin.
I will continue my roles until the next round.

ctya

"admins forum" is incorrect.  That is not where we communicate about DeVCoin.  It is a place created by you and Nova and it was never necessary to have a new place to communicate.

So you can ask a sixth time, and I will still not go to your side-channel to communicate out of public view to satisfy your need to hide the communication.

We can discuss it here.

The position is described at
https://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_human_resources

If you want to expand on that description for the next person who takes the position, please edit Devtome as this is historically appropriate.

I believe we already agreed that there was an assignment of 50 shares to a wallet controlled by you.




Please let us all know which voting process was used.
https://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin&#voting



ctya

Hi ctya,

This reminded me that there is a candidate willing to unburden you of the Bounty Factorum position. Could you please outline the duties the position requires (to aid in the position's budgeting) on the thread found at:

https://trollkeep.com/smf/index.php?topic=11.0

Thanks!

- Nova

Can you tell me what makes you think like that?

Thanks for making that clear.

To recap
25.8 shares to me for hosting the two primary sites, hosting multiple full nodes, hosting receiver files, and much more
50 shares to yourself for a project with no activity and an idea that it might be used in the future.

I will ask again:
Can you suspend those 50 shares until you have a proof-of-concept?

https://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin&#voting

cheers,

ctya

First of all, I want to tell everybody that currently I'm holding the accounting role of the Devtome project. I guess that not just Ctya but other people might be unhappy with my decisions. So, I can understand your feelings but you don't need to attack me, because you only spread the bad feelings and I can only feel sad with that situation. Please, we should realize that somebody has to make make the hard decisions. I'm making the hard decisions now, are you going to help or are you going to attack me?

That said, here is me again trying to answer Ctya:


Actually, this round I'm asking everybody with assigned ongoing shares, not just me and Novacadian, to provide a budget (a plan for spending the money). But this is the answer I got from you:

Ctya, you have 25.8 shares = 18725795 DVC being paid to you this round (604058 DVC per day) that doesn't seem enough for all the number of things you do. I'm eager to help you sync your expenses with the budget. For that to happen, I kindly ask you (for the fifth time) to elaborate your plans for each of the roles/duties in the admins forum.

In regards to the provisioned funds for Devtome. I can't decide arbitrarily what to do with those 50 shares, since the majority supported the idea of keeping Devtome alive, and you were one those in favor. So, for the third time, please use the admin forum to make your proposal about Devtome, so that you can get consensus. And that is how you can get the answer to your question.

- develCuy

I am just asking you to suspend the 50 shares for the next round until you provide a plan.
It seems I have upset you by asking.
I still have no answer.  So, I will keep asking.

Who is leaving DeVCoin now?

Ctya

Here is this copy of my private message to you, the one you call an attempt to shame you:


I already explained both publicly and internally what I'm doing and what the funds will be used for. Not today, not yesterday, but from the very beginning. Yet, this week you seem to ignore everything. I did my best to explain myself again, asking you to please participate in the internal discussions with the admin team, so that you can get the additional funds that you need. Unfortunately nothing seems to be fast enough for you. Because now you attack Novacadian and me publicly. What do you really want?

I'm working hard to build an strong structure for the whole project, so that we can build on top of solid foundations. This all requires strategy AND consensus. If you are going to hit the table every time you dislike something or because you don't trust your team, then you have to make a decision. Long history short. If you stay, let's work side by side with the admin team. If you don't trust us, then it doesn't make sense to stay. Because I'm not staying in the Devcoin project if the team will follow your current self-destructive leadership.

- develCuy