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September 15, 2013, 10:37:25 AM
FinShaggy,

I would love to help you with a silver store. Domain. Hosting. Whatever I can.
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September 15, 2013, 10:35:31 AM
What we honestly need to be doing is making Devcoin shops. (I am going to make a silver store and a book store when I can).

If you make a PURPOSE for Devcoin it makes people want to BUY devcoin AND earn devcoin. So really it is the BEST way to support the coin. Rather than hating on video making, or talking to Devcoin girl. You could make a page offering your own devcoins for video bounties too though.
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September 15, 2013, 10:25:36 AM
FinShaggy:

Would it be possible to set up a passthrough system such that people can get their essays posted to Devtome and receive payment directly in the currency of their choice (after selling DVC for BTC then buying their preferred currency)?

Part of paying people for writing for devtome and getting paid in devcoins is to propagate the Devcoin protocol; the Devcoin name and Currency.  It greatly undermines this goal and purpose of the devtome protocol if a system to bypass devcoin or to automatically dump devcoin is put into place.  

I realize many already sell their devcoins but some do not and changing the system to make it easier to sell devcoins or to never even get paid in devcoins would only accelerate the current drop in Devcoin's price while greatly mitigating the desired increase in currency uptake and velocity.

It's a good idea, don't attack him for it or anything, we just gotta wait for the video coin, or Devtome video section.

If we had more ways to get devcoin, there would be more devcoin supporters, and since their friends might hear about it there would be even more coming. And eventually, when there are more supporters, it will make your stock of coins more valuable individually.
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September 15, 2013, 06:41:31 AM
... It greatly undermines this goal and purpose ...
I agree. It’s already counter-productive to be paying uncapped dvc for existing publicly available blog posts and texts that have/would have written anyway and thus already been compensated for - just so they may be sold on. To then facilitate a direct pass-through not in dvc would make zero sense and simply maintain a constant net short dvc position. However whatever happens the decisions are and will be reflected in the price and flow, which in my opinion offer pretty self-evident guages of efficacy.
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September 15, 2013, 03:04:58 AM
FinShaggy:

Would it be possible to set up a passthrough system such that people can get their essays posted to Devtome and receive payment directly in the currency of their choice (after selling DVC for BTC then buying their preferred currency)?

Part of paying people for writing for devtome and getting paid in devcoins is to propagate the Devcoin protocol; the Devcoin name and Currency.  It greatly undermines this goal and purpose of the devtome protocol if a system to bypass devcoin or to automatically dump devcoin is put into place. 

I realize many already sell their devcoins but some do not and changing the system to make it easier to sell devcoins or to never even get paid in devcoins would only accelerate the current drop in Devcoin's price while greatly mitigating the desired increase in currency uptake and velocity.
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September 15, 2013, 01:51:49 AM
FinShaggy:

Would it be possible to set up a passthrough system such that people can get their essays posted to Devtome and receive payment directly in the currency of their choice (after selling DVC for BTC then buying their preferred currency)?

Maybe... But someone would have to be willing to not write their own articles, and just post other peoples. AND those people would have to be trustworthy.

Devcoin is exchangeable for a few coins on Vircurex I'm pretty sure too.
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September 15, 2013, 01:08:52 AM
FinShaggy:

Would it be possible to set up a passthrough system such that people can get their essays posted to Devtome and receive payment directly in the currency of their choice (after selling DVC for BTC then buying their preferred currency)?
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September 15, 2013, 01:02:14 AM
k how about this Im talking to the guy who got devcoim girl to make videos and I can get her to make more with a script we provide... so what kimd of share allocation does this provide? I think it cam be beneficial to her to do it since any youtube hits might also drive in profit.

Also if she does get paid im sure I can find more ppl to make vids about dvc talking about anythig we want... a spokesperson per say or random vids its up to us. We can judge quality length etc etc like writing.

There is no way to get paid for videos with Devcoins yet. And if you get her to make a video, everyone is just going to say that all you were doing was getting a girl to make videos so guys would watch it. I didn't even give her a script, just encouraged her to make videos and got all kinds of hate.
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September 15, 2013, 12:53:20 AM
k how about this Im talking to the guy who got devcoim girl to make videos and I can get her to make more with a script we provide... so what kimd of share allocation does this provide? I think it cam be beneficial to her to do it since any youtube hits might also drive in profit.

Also if she does get paid im sure I can find more ppl to make vids about dvc talking about anythig we want... a spokesperson per say or random vids its up to us. We can judge quality length etc etc like writing.
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September 14, 2013, 11:50:08 PM
I have no opinion one way or the other and respect everyone's right to free speech, but how about we get this thread back to devcoin/devtome related topics please.

The MJ talk would be better on a Devtome page or PM, and doesn't represent this thread very well. 


I tried to change the topic.

I have 30 books in the mail, waiting on those so I can write more history. And I am  currently writing a life story. I have over 10,000 words on it.
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September 14, 2013, 11:44:26 PM
Contrary to the common belief that smoking the drug destroys memory, researchers have found that it could actually keep the brain young.
The team at Ohio State University found that specific elements of marijuana can be good for the ageing brain by reducing inflammation there and possibly even stimulating the formation of new brain cells.
The research suggests that the development of a legal drug that contains certain properties similar to those in marijuana might help prevent or delay the onset of Alzheimer's disease.

The research, which was presented to the Society for Neuroscience, involved giving rats a constant dose of a cannabis derivative for three weeks.
A control group of rats received no intervention. In follow-up memory tests, in which rats were placed in a small swimming pool to determine how well they use visual cues to find a platform hidden under the surface of the water, the treated rats did better than the control rats in learning and remembering how to find the hidden platform.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/3485163/Marijuana-may-improve-memory-and-help-fight-Alzheimers.html
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Alzheimer's disease is the leading cause of dementia among the elderly, and with the ever-increasing size of this population, cases of Alzheimer's disease are expected to triple over the next 50 years. Consequently, the development of treatments that slow or halt the disease progression have become imperative to both improve the quality of life for patients as well as reduce the health care costs attributable to Alzheimer's disease. Here, we demonstrate that the active component of marijuana, Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), competitively inhibits the enzyme acetylcholinesterase (AChE) as well as prevents AChE-induced amyloid β-peptide (Aβ) aggregation, the key pathological marker of Alzheimer's disease. Computational modeling of the THC-AChE interaction revealed that THC binds in the peripheral anionic site of AChE, the critical region involved in amyloidgenesis. Compared to currently approved drugs prescribed for the treatment of Alzheimer's disease, THC is a considerably superior inhibitor of Aβ aggregation, and this study provides a previously unrecognized molecular mechanism through which cannabinoid molecules may directly impact the progression of this debilitating disease.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2562334/
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A 2008 study even demonstrated that a THC-like substance reduced brain inflammation and improved memory in older rats.

The latest review, published in Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society B, suggests that activating the brain’s cannabinoid system may trigger a sort of anti-oxidant cleanse, removing damaged cells and improving the efficiency of the mitochrondria, the energy source that powers cells, ultimately leading to a more robustly functioning brain.

http://healthland.time.com/2012/10/29/how-cannabinoids-may-slow-brain-aging/#ixzz2evvWbbhu
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Prof. Yosef Sarne in the Department of Physiology and Pharmacology at Tel Aviv University says that [cannabis] … has neuroprotective qualities. He has found that extremely low doses of THC — the psychoactive component of marijuana — protects the brain from long-term cognitive damage in the wake of injury from hypoxia (lack of oxygen), seizures, or toxic drugs.

Previous studies focused on injecting high doses of THC within a very short time frame – approximately 30 minutes – before or after injury. Sarne’s papers in Behavioural Brain Research and Experimental Brain Research say that even extremely low doses of THC – around 1,000 to 10,000 times less than that in a conventional marijuana cigarette – administered over a wide window of 1 to 7 days before or 1 to 3 days after injury can jump-start biochemical processes which protect brain cells and preserve cognitive function over time.

… In the lab, the researchers injected mice with a single low dose of THC either before or after exposing them to brain trauma. A control group of mice sustained brain injury but did not receive the THC treatment. When the mice were examined 3 to 7 weeks after initial injury, recipients of the THC treatment performed better in behavioral tests measuring learning and memory. Additionally, biochemical studies showed heightened amounts of neuroprotective chemicals in the treatment group compared to the control group.

… This treatment, especially in light of the long time frame for administration and the low dosage, could be applicable to many cases of brain injury and be safer over time, Sarne says.

http://blog.norml.org/2013/06/06/studies-cannabinoids-protect-the-brain-and-heart-from-injury/#sthash.UhsBuBuT.dpuf
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September 14, 2013, 11:25:34 PM
I can't find the study, but I promise you. I remember MORE of my life since the day I started smoking, than I do anything before that (like, once I started smoking, everything became more memorable) and I did find something on wikipedia that said something about "Contextual Memory" which is where you remember things when you are in the same situation IE You remember it when you are high, because you were high when you did it.
But again, I can't find the study. Except for what I just said about wikipedia, and another page that says "Long term use can cause 'selective memory defects'." I have seen a study for this before though.
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September 14, 2013, 11:22:23 PM
Still looking for the increased long term memory study, but that proves it is non damaging.
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September 14, 2013, 11:20:28 PM
Also, Cannabis wreaks havock on short term memory. But it has been proven that the reason is because Cannabis is working on your long term memory. So, it is basically helping you get rid of stuff you don't think is important.

And Cannabis is the only medicine known to man that can help reverse brain swelling. There is currently NO OTHER drug available for this. My little brother died from it while I pleaded with Doctors to do something.
Proof that using canabis increases long term memory?? Link? Is it like those studies that keep changing stories like 1 beer a day makes u live longer and then retract that statment again lol. I would rather leave it as a seldom hobby as otherwise a mother would give it to her child to ease pain. Like i said mothers instincts know best thats evolution working infront of our eyes.

It's doesn't affect your memory, it's just that less educated people and males in particular, are more likely to be smoking weed. Which effects the results of any test that is based on weed.

"Rather, the case for marijuana “abuse” has always stemmed from its cognitive effects. While cigarettes are like caffeinated smoke — they increase attention and productivity, marijuana is the drug of choice for slackers, hippies and Seth Rogen characters. In popular culture, all it takes is one hit from a bong before people become ridiculously dumb, unable to solve the simplest problems or utter a coherent sentence. Potheads eat a lot and laugh at stupid jokes. The larger worry, of course, is that such damage is enduring and that “smoking dope” permanently impedes learning and memory.

That, at least, has been the collective stereotype for decades. There’s even been some science to back it up, especially when the marijuana use begins at an early age. But now a different answer is beginning to emerge, thanks to an authoritative new study led by Robert Tait at the Australian National University. The scientists looked at the long-term cognitive effects of marijuana use in nearly 2,000 subjects between the ages of 20 and 24. The subjects were divided (based on self-reports) into several different categories, from total abstainers (n = 420) to “current light users” (n = 71) to “former heavy users” (n = 60). Over the course of eight years, the scientists gave the subjects a battery of standard cognitive tests, most of which focused on working memory, verbal memory and intelligence. One of the important advantages of this study is that the scientists controlled for a number of relevant variables, such as education and gender. In Time, Maia Szalavitz explains why this statistical adjustment is necessary:

The lower education levels of the pot smokers — and their greater likelihood of being male — had made it look like marijuana had significantly affected their intelligence. In fact, men simply tend to do worse than women on tests of verbal intelligence, while women generally underperform on math tests. The relative weighting of the tests made the impact of pot look worse than it was.
The adverse impacts of cannabis use on cognitive functions either appear to be related to pre-existing factors or are reversible in this community cohort even after potentially extended periods of use. These findings may be useful in motivating individuals to lower cannabis use, even after an extensive history of heavy intake.

This study builds on previous work by Harvard researchers demonstrating that the learning and memory impairments of heavy marijuana users typically vanish within 28 days of “smoking cessation.” (The slight impairments still existed, however, one week after smoking.) While several days might sound like a long hippocampal hangover, heavy alcohol users typically experience deficits that persist for several months, if not years. In other words, heavy marijuana use appears to be a lot less damaging than alcoholism.
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http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/08/does-marijuana-make-you-stupid/
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September 14, 2013, 11:11:15 PM
Also, Cannabis wreaks havock on short term memory. But it has been proven that the reason is because Cannabis is working on your long term memory. So, it is basically helping you get rid of stuff you don't think is important.

And Cannabis is the only medicine known to man that can help reverse brain swelling. There is currently NO OTHER drug available for this. My little brother died from it while I pleaded with Doctors to do something.
Proof that using canabis increases long term memory?? Link? Is it like those studies that keep changing stories like 1 beer a day makes u live longer and then retract that statment again lol. I would rather leave it as a seldom hobby as otherwise a mother would give it to her child to ease pain. Like i said mothers instincts know best thats evolution working infront of our eyes.
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September 14, 2013, 12:26:08 PM
Anyways, back to the topic of Devtome.

I ordered 30 books, so I will have plenty more research to help me with my history book, like early next week. So this round will probably be my most active for Devtome.
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September 14, 2013, 11:53:10 AM
Also, Cannabis wreaks havock on short term memory. But it has been proven that the reason is because Cannabis is working on your long term memory. So, it is basically helping you get rid of stuff you don't think is important.

And Cannabis is the only medicine known to man that can help reverse brain swelling. There is currently NO OTHER drug available for this. My little brother died from it while I pleaded with Doctors to do something.
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September 14, 2013, 11:50:17 AM
lol at the plant comment.. It kills braincells weed does when you smoke it. Ive only had a body stone once

Wrong. New studies have proven that the brain cells do slow down, but they are not killed. If you stop smoking they are revitalized. And further study has proven that there are Cannabinoids present in your brain that act to protect your memory and other functions, and adding to them doesn't hurt, except that your brain might think it is ok to stop producing them since you just put it there. Then if you stop smoking you could have less natural Cannabinoids in your brain than a regular person.

But Cannabinoids are actually at the FOREFRONT of Nuerogenesis research, at least in Israel.
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September 14, 2013, 11:29:45 AM
lol at the plant comment.. It kills braincells weed does when you smoke it. Ive only had a body stone once
but it was laced with something so bad experience.

I got alot of my unique perspectives on life through weed ie: The key to life is the idea of a mother and the difference between 0 and 1 (to be or not to be) sometimes when you think about something searching for truth logic takes you in circles until you come around to a point where you are so sure its the truth.

Those experiences i got from weed became my truths who knows if they are absolute.

But I also believe that too much of anything is bad. If you smoke everyday you are addicted and u will have sideaffects. Just like drinking etc.. Dont pull the plant thing on me. What about salvia? How about other drugs growing say im mexico abudantly known as devils drug renders you useless and imcapable of reason.

I do see its uses and its helped me clarify things about life and when im on it i seem to have an outside perspective on my self and am able to openly critisiZe the things i do wrong or can improve which helps alot. Alot of ppl wouldnt know what they are doing wrong or can improve without external influence and then half the time we dont agree. Yes try it a few times but keep it in check. Enjoy the ezperiemce with close friends or family.
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September 14, 2013, 11:07:31 AM
Just for clarification...

Does an essay need a minimum of 1,000 words to be credited? Also, if I write 1.6K on essay A and 1.7K on essay B, do I get 2, 3 or 3.3 shares?

All words are counted. That would be 3.3 shares. But it rounds down (I think) to your nearest full 1k, so it would *count* as 3 shares. If you added 700 more words, it would be 4.

So if you wrote 3.9, only 3 would be counted and the .9 is lost forever?

Words are always counted. ie if you wrote 500 words today and 500 in a year, you will complete that first share.

If you wrote 130k words today you would get 80 shares this round and the remaining 50 next round.

When the script is run, it calculates the *total* and subtracts your payments. Ie. if you got 50 shares this round, wrote 50 more next round but deleted 30 shares of your first round (paid) articles, you would only get paid for 50+50-50(paid)-30(deleted)=20 shares.
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