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for being math geniuses i find it amazing u don't understand the ballooning share count is what made the doom of dvc...thanks Huh

Please explain your point because the ballooning share count is actually HELPING it out. Devcoin is becoming more distributed over time.
hero member
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Hey there! Could my faucet get added to the main post? It hands out more then the current faucets.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/giveaway-free-devcoin-faucet-20dvc-per-person-currently-paused-194307

Thanks!

Is the "faucet" the forum thread you referenced, or is there a faucet website?  How often does this faucet pay out?

It's the forum thread, just post there. Currently you can get it once, but if the amount increases you can get it again.

or just use a different address ..thanks

Well, I probably won't notice if you post twice, or the same address twice, as I don't really pay attention to names, and you'd get away with it, but it's definately not nice what you're doing :/.
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Best would for adding value to the currency may be a bitmit in dvc?  Then people may not even convert to fiat but stay in dvc to later buy something they want.



Why don't we contact bitmit and ask them to add a devcoin payment option? At worst they'll say No - but they might say Yes.

That would raise the value. They might add it providing that they can see a profit in introducing the currency, if not they might refuse but you are right about the worst they can do is refuse. if they refuse there is still nothing lost.
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aka 7Strykes

Best would for adding value to the currency may be a bitmit in dvc?  Then people may not even convert to fiat but stay in dvc to later buy something they want.



Why don't we contact bitmit and ask them to add a devcoin payment option? At worst they'll say No - but they might say Yes.

What companies "might" do is the most important thing to consider. The outcomes are endless. We can only, but always try.
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Best would for adding value to the currency may be a bitmit in dvc?  Then people may not even convert to fiat but stay in dvc to later buy something they want.



Why don't we contact bitmit and ask them to add a devcoin payment option? At worst they'll say No - but they might say Yes.
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ASCMDVCPT shares for a more reasonable price. Without competitive share prices, people are just going to sell their DVC for BTC and invest in ASICMINER directly. Perhaps someone could offer a service that acts sort of like ASCMDVCPT, but with the price fixed to the TAT.ASICMINER value?

There are a couple of things that could make the price higher.  More people able to buy in at 1/1000 of a share, so you pay a bit of a premium  for the extra divisibility.    It also has a 1% fee vs 5% for TAT, so you potentially get more of a return over the long run, even with the current  0.2% currency conversion fees.   

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One other solution I considered was to make some sort of service allowing people to buy things directly with DVC - think BitPay or Gyft but with DVC instead. This way people wouldn't be in such a hurry to sell off their DVC for fiat. Although of course the problem here is the service would still be forced to somehow exchange the DVC for fiat in order to actually purchase the goods for their customers.

Thoughts?

Better for adding value to the currency may be a bitmit in dvc?  Then people may not even convert to fiat but stay in dvc to later buy something they want.

legendary
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Hey there! Could my faucet get added to the main post? It hands out more then the current faucets.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/giveaway-free-devcoin-faucet-20dvc-per-person-currently-paused-194307

Thanks!

Is the "faucet" the forum thread you referenced, or is there a faucet website?  How often does this faucet pay out?

It's the forum thread, just post there. Currently you can get it once, but if the amount increases you can get it again.

or just use a different address ..thanks

Yeah, exploit the system to screw over others. That's the kind of attitude we want around here...
hero member
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Hey there! Could my faucet get added to the main post? It hands out more then the current faucets.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/giveaway-free-devcoin-faucet-20dvc-per-person-currently-paused-194307

Thanks!

Is the "faucet" the forum thread you referenced, or is there a faucet website?  How often does this faucet pay out?

It's the forum thread, just post there. Currently you can get it once, but if the amount increases you can get it again.
legendary
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Hey there! Could my faucet get added to the main post? It hands out more then the current faucets.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/giveaway-free-devcoin-faucet-20dvc-per-person-currently-paused-194307

Thanks!

Is the "faucet" the forum thread you referenced, or is there a faucet website?  How often does this faucet pay out?
legendary
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There was no additions made to the code.
By now Namecoin was changed to Icoin, NC to IC and the ports to 1291/1294
I'm curious why you don't just use namecoin?

Cause it make no sense to bloat namecoin. Icoin is not about DNS for websites, its for authenthicity of realms and avatars (HG).

That is part of what namecoin is for. For example your nyms in OpenTransactions can be put under an alias registered in namecoin. You don't have to put entries in namecoin into the default domain, you also have aliases and actually even arbitrary categories. Certainly aliases as well as domains.

-MarkM-
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It takes no more than $0.00 to do it, lol.

How much time does it take?


Just put it into some autosurf sites as your target page to send traffic to, and assign visits, or if you have no visits credit, leave a few browsers running generating you credit. Alexa is pretty much the main reason to even bother using autosurfs at all.

-MarkM-
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I was trying to implement this, it's not so that difficult, but with a problem, I have no easy way to stop people from spamming the faucet with different subdomains, e.g. one hold example.com would use aa.example.com and bb.example.com pointing to the same site to apply the faucet payment, I have no good way to determine if they are the same site, and one may generate infinite subdomains as long as he own the domain name.
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After talking to Ranlo, no easy way to determine the popularity of a site could be found. So you could only pay people for a link on a domain homepage. That is all that is required for the current domain faucet bounty.

Later on if there is more interest, a subdomain faucet bounty would be added for you to make tracking code, or give more money to sites that you manually verify, and then your faucet could also pay for subdomains and/or pay more for popular sites.


If we're talking about the value of backlinks, why not use Google's own metric, which is Google Pagerank? It's their measure of how powerful a domain is - Facebook has a pagerank of 10 while some minor sub-domain with no links has a pagerank of 0. It's an exponential scale - so a site with pagerank of 1 is ten times more powerful than a site with pagerank 0, a site with pagerank 2 is 100 times more powerful than a site with pagerank 0, etc. Also pagerank is calculated on a page by page basis (i.e. they don't just assess the domain. So you can look-up the exact page with a link to devtome.

See the following page for how to pull the api for Google pagerank:

https://code.google.com/p/seostats/

But why would we take PR as being a value of anything? Nobody uses PR as a true value of worth of a domain. It has a very slight impact on some things, but is nothing to worry about. A PR0 site can easily outrank a PR10 site going for the same keywords, depending on how each of them is optimized.

Don't be fooled by the FUD put out by Google Smiley Pagerank still rules. I have a lot of websites - and while their content is excellent they all need backlinks to rank, and high pagerank links too. Forget about domains - always, always assess pagerank by individual page.  Sure a PR0 page from a PR10 domain may be outranked by a PR0 page from a PR0 domain if the latter has better onsite SEO. But a PR10 page will always outrank a PR0 page unless the former has been manually penalised by Google.

I was proposing assessing the incoming links page by page rather than based on the domain.



This isn't the right place for this discussion I guess, but you are entirely wrong in your assessment. Do you need some backlinks to rank? Actually, this is also wrong, :p. Though backlinks do help. But ranking has absolutely 0 to do with PR. You can have a PR10 PAGE that is outranked by a PR0 PAGE. It all depends on how you have it optimized.

That is true. It is how well the SEO is optimised and the content upon the website. If the content is rubbish and not related to used keywords, then don't expect to be good at ranking, else viseversa.


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Hey there! Could my faucet get added to the main post? It hands out more then the current faucets.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/giveaway-free-devcoin-faucet-20dvc-per-person-currently-paused-194307

Thanks!

Nice to know theres another faucet! Lets make Devcoin thrive and increase in the Crypt-currency market!

Think you messed your quotes up, that was my post, haha. But yeah, I wanted to spread the word and I do, I also give away bigger amounts often. I'm thinking of increasing the 20DVC to 50DVC though.


I did get my quotes messed up:( anyway, looks like I got a new dvc faucet to go to!
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I was trying to implement this, it's not so that difficult, but with a problem, I have no easy way to stop people from spamming the faucet with different subdomains, e.g. one hold example.com would use aa.example.com and bb.example.com pointing to the same site to apply the faucet payment, I have no good way to determine if they are the same site, and one may generate infinite subdomains as long as he own the domain name.
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After talking to Ranlo, no easy way to determine the popularity of a site could be found. So you could only pay people for a link on a domain homepage. That is all that is required for the current domain faucet bounty.

Later on if there is more interest, a subdomain faucet bounty would be added for you to make tracking code, or give more money to sites that you manually verify, and then your faucet could also pay for subdomains and/or pay more for popular sites.


If we're talking about the value of backlinks, why not use Google's own metric, which is Google Pagerank? It's their measure of how powerful a domain is - Facebook has a pagerank of 10 while some minor sub-domain with no links has a pagerank of 0. It's an exponential scale - so a site with pagerank of 1 is ten times more powerful than a site with pagerank 0, a site with pagerank 2 is 100 times more powerful than a site with pagerank 0, etc. Also pagerank is calculated on a page by page basis (i.e. they don't just assess the domain. So you can look-up the exact page with a link to devtome.

See the following page for how to pull the api for Google pagerank:

https://code.google.com/p/seostats/

But why would we take PR as being a value of anything? Nobody uses PR as a true value of worth of a domain. It has a very slight impact on some things, but is nothing to worry about. A PR0 site can easily outrank a PR10 site going for the same keywords, depending on how each of them is optimized.

Don't be fooled by the FUD put out by Google Smiley Pagerank still rules. I have a lot of websites - and while their content is excellent they all need backlinks to rank, and high pagerank links too. Forget about domains - always, always assess pagerank by individual page.  Sure a PR0 page from a PR10 domain may be outranked by a PR0 page from a PR0 domain if the latter has better onsite SEO. But a PR10 page will always outrank a PR0 page unless the former has been manually penalised by Google.

I was proposing assessing the incoming links page by page rather than based on the domain.



This isn't the right place for this discussion I guess, but you are entirely wrong in your assessment. Do you need some backlinks to rank? Actually, this is also wrong, :p. Though backlinks do help. But ranking has absolutely 0 to do with PR. You can have a PR10 PAGE that is outranked by a PR0 PAGE. It all depends on how you have it optimized.

That is true. It is how well the SEO is optimised and the content upon the website. If the content is rubbish and not related to used keywords, then don't expect to be good at ranking, else viseversa.


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Hey there! Could my faucet get added to the main post? It hands out more then the current faucets.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/giveaway-free-devcoin-faucet-20dvc-per-person-currently-paused-194307

Thanks!

Nice to know theres another faucet! Lets make Devcoin thrive and increase in the Crypt-currency market!

Think you messed your quotes up, that was my post, haha. But yeah, I wanted to spread the word and I do, I also give away bigger amounts often. I'm thinking of increasing the 20DVC to 50DVC though.
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I was trying to implement this, it's not so that difficult, but with a problem, I have no easy way to stop people from spamming the faucet with different subdomains, e.g. one hold example.com would use aa.example.com and bb.example.com pointing to the same site to apply the faucet payment, I have no good way to determine if they are the same site, and one may generate infinite subdomains as long as he own the domain name.
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After talking to Ranlo, no easy way to determine the popularity of a site could be found. So you could only pay people for a link on a domain homepage. That is all that is required for the current domain faucet bounty.

Later on if there is more interest, a subdomain faucet bounty would be added for you to make tracking code, or give more money to sites that you manually verify, and then your faucet could also pay for subdomains and/or pay more for popular sites.


If we're talking about the value of backlinks, why not use Google's own metric, which is Google Pagerank? It's their measure of how powerful a domain is - Facebook has a pagerank of 10 while some minor sub-domain with no links has a pagerank of 0. It's an exponential scale - so a site with pagerank of 1 is ten times more powerful than a site with pagerank 0, a site with pagerank 2 is 100 times more powerful than a site with pagerank 0, etc. Also pagerank is calculated on a page by page basis (i.e. they don't just assess the domain. So you can look-up the exact page with a link to devtome.

See the following page for how to pull the api for Google pagerank:

https://code.google.com/p/seostats/

But why would we take PR as being a value of anything? Nobody uses PR as a true value of worth of a domain. It has a very slight impact on some things, but is nothing to worry about. A PR0 site can easily outrank a PR10 site going for the same keywords, depending on how each of them is optimized.

Don't be fooled by the FUD put out by Google Smiley Pagerank still rules. I have a lot of websites - and while their content is excellent they all need backlinks to rank, and high pagerank links too. Forget about domains - always, always assess pagerank by individual page.  Sure a PR0 page from a PR10 domain may be outranked by a PR0 page from a PR0 domain if the latter has better onsite SEO. But a PR10 page will always outrank a PR0 page unless the former has been manually penalised by Google.

I was proposing assessing the incoming links page by page rather than based on the domain.



This isn't the right place for this discussion I guess, but you are entirely wrong in your assessment. Do you need some backlinks to rank? Actually, this is also wrong, :p. Though backlinks do help. But ranking has absolutely 0 to do with PR. You can have a PR10 PAGE that is outranked by a PR0 PAGE. It all depends on how you have it optimized.

That is true. It is how well the SEO is optimised and the content upon the website. If the content is rubbish and not related to used keywords, then don't expect to be good at ranking, else viseversa.


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Hey there! Could my faucet get added to the main post? It hands out more then the current faucets.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/giveaway-free-devcoin-faucet-20dvc-per-person-currently-paused-194307

Thanks!

Nice to know theres another faucet! Lets make Devcoin thrive and increase in the Crypt-currency market!
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Hey there! Could my faucet get added to the main post? It hands out more then the current faucets.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/giveaway-free-devcoin-faucet-20dvc-per-person-currently-paused-194307

Thanks!

Will be adding it. Took some minutes to add it, but after messing up some of the main thread's BBC coding I put it on. Added.
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Hey there! Could my faucet get added to the main post? It hands out more then the current faucets.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/giveaway-free-devcoin-faucet-20dvc-per-person-currently-paused-194307

Thanks!
legendary
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I was trying to implement this, it's not so that difficult, but with a problem, I have no easy way to stop people from spamming the faucet with different subdomains, e.g. one hold example.com would use aa.example.com and bb.example.com pointing to the same site to apply the faucet payment, I have no good way to determine if they are the same site, and one may generate infinite subdomains as long as he own the domain name.
..

After talking to Ranlo, no easy way to determine the popularity of a site could be found. So you could only pay people for a link on a domain homepage. That is all that is required for the current domain faucet bounty.

Later on if there is more interest, a subdomain faucet bounty would be added for you to make tracking code, or give more money to sites that you manually verify, and then your faucet could also pay for subdomains and/or pay more for popular sites.


If we're talking about the value of backlinks, why not use Google's own metric, which is Google Pagerank? It's their measure of how powerful a domain is - Facebook has a pagerank of 10 while some minor sub-domain with no links has a pagerank of 0. It's an exponential scale - so a site with pagerank of 1 is ten times more powerful than a site with pagerank 0, a site with pagerank 2 is 100 times more powerful than a site with pagerank 0, etc. Also pagerank is calculated on a page by page basis (i.e. they don't just assess the domain. So you can look-up the exact page with a link to devtome.

See the following page for how to pull the api for Google pagerank:

https://code.google.com/p/seostats/

But why would we take PR as being a value of anything? Nobody uses PR as a true value of worth of a domain. It has a very slight impact on some things, but is nothing to worry about. A PR0 site can easily outrank a PR10 site going for the same keywords, depending on how each of them is optimized.

Don't be fooled by the FUD put out by Google Smiley Pagerank still rules. I have a lot of websites - and while their content is excellent they all need backlinks to rank, and high pagerank links too. Forget about domains - always, always assess pagerank by individual page.  Sure a PR0 page from a PR10 domain may be outranked by a PR0 page from a PR0 domain if the latter has better onsite SEO. But a PR10 page will always outrank a PR0 page unless the former has been manually penalised by Google.

I was proposing assessing the incoming links page by page rather than based on the domain.



This isn't the right place for this discussion I guess, but you are entirely wrong in your assessment. Do you need some backlinks to rank? Actually, this is also wrong, :p. Though backlinks do help. But ranking has absolutely 0 to do with PR. You can have a PR10 PAGE that is outranked by a PR0 PAGE. It all depends on how you have it optimized.

Ranking is still largely about the links coming into your page. I understand that this faucet is about incoming links not the PR of individual devtome pages. The best way to assess incoming links is via pagerank.

Re the PR10 page being outranked by a PR0 page - care to share any examples?  Smiley I've survived Penguin and Panda and a whole host of algos and ranking is largely due to the strength of the incoming links regardless of the FUD put out by Google.
legendary
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I was trying to implement this, it's not so that difficult, but with a problem, I have no easy way to stop people from spamming the faucet with different subdomains, e.g. one hold example.com would use aa.example.com and bb.example.com pointing to the same site to apply the faucet payment, I have no good way to determine if they are the same site, and one may generate infinite subdomains as long as he own the domain name.
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After talking to Ranlo, no easy way to determine the popularity of a site could be found. So you could only pay people for a link on a domain homepage. That is all that is required for the current domain faucet bounty.

Later on if there is more interest, a subdomain faucet bounty would be added for you to make tracking code, or give more money to sites that you manually verify, and then your faucet could also pay for subdomains and/or pay more for popular sites.


If we're talking about the value of backlinks, why not use Google's own metric, which is Google Pagerank? It's their measure of how powerful a domain is - Facebook has a pagerank of 10 while some minor sub-domain with no links has a pagerank of 0. It's an exponential scale - so a site with pagerank of 1 is ten times more powerful than a site with pagerank 0, a site with pagerank 2 is 100 times more powerful than a site with pagerank 0, etc. Also pagerank is calculated on a page by page basis (i.e. they don't just assess the domain. So you can look-up the exact page with a link to devtome.

See the following page for how to pull the api for Google pagerank:

https://code.google.com/p/seostats/

But why would we take PR as being a value of anything? Nobody uses PR as a true value of worth of a domain. It has a very slight impact on some things, but is nothing to worry about. A PR0 site can easily outrank a PR10 site going for the same keywords, depending on how each of them is optimized.

Don't be fooled by the FUD put out by Google Smiley Pagerank still rules. I have a lot of websites - and while their content is excellent they all need backlinks to rank, and high pagerank links too. Forget about domains - always, always assess pagerank by individual page.  Sure a PR0 page from a PR10 domain may be outranked by a PR0 page from a PR0 domain if the latter has better onsite SEO. But a PR10 page will always outrank a PR0 page unless the former has been manually penalised by Google.

I was proposing assessing the incoming links page by page rather than based on the domain.



This isn't the right place for this discussion I guess, but you are entirely wrong in your assessment. Do you need some backlinks to rank? Actually, this is also wrong, :p. Though backlinks do help. But ranking has absolutely 0 to do with PR. You can have a PR10 PAGE that is outranked by a PR0 PAGE. It all depends on how you have it optimized.
legendary
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I was trying to implement this, it's not so that difficult, but with a problem, I have no easy way to stop people from spamming the faucet with different subdomains, e.g. one hold example.com would use aa.example.com and bb.example.com pointing to the same site to apply the faucet payment, I have no good way to determine if they are the same site, and one may generate infinite subdomains as long as he own the domain name.
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After talking to Ranlo, no easy way to determine the popularity of a site could be found. So you could only pay people for a link on a domain homepage. That is all that is required for the current domain faucet bounty.

Later on if there is more interest, a subdomain faucet bounty would be added for you to make tracking code, or give more money to sites that you manually verify, and then your faucet could also pay for subdomains and/or pay more for popular sites.


If we're talking about the value of backlinks, why not use Google's own metric, which is Google Pagerank? It's their measure of how powerful a domain is - Facebook has a pagerank of 10 while some minor sub-domain with no links has a pagerank of 0. It's an exponential scale - so a site with pagerank of 1 is ten times more powerful than a site with pagerank 0, a site with pagerank 2 is 100 times more powerful than a site with pagerank 0, etc. Also pagerank is calculated on a page by page basis (i.e. they don't just assess the domain. So you can look-up the exact page with a link to devtome.

See the following page for how to pull the api for Google pagerank:

https://code.google.com/p/seostats/

But why would we take PR as being a value of anything? Nobody uses PR as a true value of worth of a domain. It has a very slight impact on some things, but is nothing to worry about. A PR0 site can easily outrank a PR10 site going for the same keywords, depending on how each of them is optimized.

Don't be fooled by the FUD put out by Google Smiley Pagerank still rules. I have a lot of websites - and while their content is excellent they all need backlinks to rank, and high pagerank links too. Forget about domains - always, always assess pagerank by individual page.  Sure a PR0 page from a PR10 domain may be outranked by a PR0 page from a PR0 domain if the latter has better onsite SEO. But a PR10 page will always outrank a PR0 page unless the former has been manually penalised by Google.

I was proposing assessing the incoming links page by page rather than based on the domain.

legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
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I was trying to implement this, it's not so that difficult, but with a problem, I have no easy way to stop people from spamming the faucet with different subdomains, e.g. one hold example.com would use aa.example.com and bb.example.com pointing to the same site to apply the faucet payment, I have no good way to determine if they are the same site, and one may generate infinite subdomains as long as he own the domain name.
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After talking to Ranlo, no easy way to determine the popularity of a site could be found. So you could only pay people for a link on a domain homepage. That is all that is required for the current domain faucet bounty.

Later on if there is more interest, a subdomain faucet bounty would be added for you to make tracking code, or give more money to sites that you manually verify, and then your faucet could also pay for subdomains and/or pay more for popular sites.


If we're talking about the value of backlinks, why not use Google's own metric, which is Google Pagerank? It's their measure of how powerful a domain is - Facebook has a pagerank of 10 while some minor sub-domain with no links has a pagerank of 0. It's an exponential scale - so a site with pagerank of 1 is ten times more powerful than a site with pagerank 0, a site with pagerank 2 is 100 times more powerful than a site with pagerank 0, etc. Also pagerank is calculated on a page by page basis (i.e. they don't just assess the domain. So you can look-up the exact page with a link to devtome.

See the following page for how to pull the api for Google pagerank:

https://code.google.com/p/seostats/

But why would we take PR as being a value of anything? Nobody uses PR as a true value of worth of a domain. It has a very slight impact on some things, but is nothing to worry about. A PR0 site can easily outrank a PR10 site going for the same keywords, depending on how each of them is optimized.
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