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Quote from: killerstorm on June 20, 2013, 03:53:24 PM

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How does the android bitcoin wallet work? I think bitcoinj does all the mystic voodoo but its very lightweight and as far as I know isn't centralised in any way, maybe namecoin could adapt it?

You need to download last 36000 blocks (IIRC) to resolve names correctly. Of course, it might work now, but it doesn't scale...

The Android Wallet is not a help for the purpose of the bounty, from a financial perspective - the android app (bitcoinj) could be modified in the same way for any alt-chain, it was allready done for viarous scrypt based chains.

The Icoin chain should be more usable for Voting as example and as a decentralized json capable blockchain in general.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

How does the android bitcoin wallet work? I think bitcoinj does all the mystic voodoo but its very lightweight and as far as I know isn't centralised in any way, maybe namecoin could adapt it?

You need to download last 36000 blocks (IIRC) to resolve names correctly. Of course, it might work now, but it doesn't scale...

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There is a fundamental problem with namecoin: it isn't possible to implement a thin client

I see it as a basis that can be used for various applications shared commonly using the json protocol

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which is able to resolve names. It's basically a simple proof-of-concept on top of Bitcoin, namecoin developers did not even try to implement protocol which would allow efficient name resolution...

Name resolution is not the primary target of icoin, the json capability is more interesting. On the other hand when the key structure is unchanged, .chi domains could be registered into the namecoin chain by using icoin in a simple process trough key import and export.

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Quote from: wiser on June 19, 2013, 08:23:30 PM

Quote from: ashleysly on June 19, 2013, 07:28:33 PM

Quote from: wiser on June 19, 2013, 05:52:06 PM

So I clicked on the account 25 link and it says there are 0 Devtome earnings. I added some content yesterday. How soon will the account 25 page update, or how long is the lag between time content is added and time word count from that content shows up as Devtome shares?

It should be updated once the script has been run again. I am sure that http://d.evco.in/charity/devtome_25.csv is the link for the devtome earnings.

And when/how frequently does that happen?

Lots of noob questions I know...

Yeah the script is done at 12:30 AM UTC, daily. Just ask away!

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Quote from: Icoin on June 20, 2013, 02:25:09 PM

1000000 DVC Howto Bounty:

Howto clone Namecoin

Requirements:
Published on devtome.com
Icoin Genesis Block generated prior to 1. August 2013

https://github.com/icoin/icoin

There is a fundamental problem with namecoin: it isn't possible to implement a thin client which is able to resolve names. It's basically a simple proof-of-concept on top of Bitcoin, namecoin developers did not even try to implement protocol which would allow efficient name resolution...

This makes namecoin pretty much useless, it isn't properly decentralized.

Say, a browser plugin can't be a proper namecoin thin client, it will have to rely on some centralized server.

Which kinda defeats the purpose: you can as well run a private name server without this Namecoin mumbo-jumbo.

Specifically, it won't help to combat censorship: if majority of users will rely on plugins, shutting down few servers will make resolution impossible for the majority of clients.

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Quote from: Unthinkingbit on June 20, 2013, 02:57:07 PM

Quote from: ranlo on June 20, 2013, 02:49:16 PM

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It takes no more than $0.00 to do it, lol.

How much time does it take?

Few minutes. I'll pm you.

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Quote from: ranlo on June 20, 2013, 02:49:16 PM

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It takes no more than $0.00 to do it, lol.

How much time does it take?

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Quote from: Unthinkingbit on June 20, 2013, 02:45:27 PM

Quote from: ranlo on June 19, 2013, 07:41:28 PM

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No. No. NO!

Sorry, lol. Alexa means absolutely nothing and is ridiculously easy to manipulate. It has no real-world benefit, other than for the lulz.

Does it take more than a few dollars worth of effort to give a domain name with no real traffic a page rank?

It takes no more than $0.00 to do it, lol.

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Quote from: ranlo on June 19, 2013, 07:41:28 PM

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No. No. NO!

Sorry, lol. Alexa means absolutely nothing and is ridiculously easy to manipulate. It has no real-world benefit, other than for the lulz.

Does it take more than a few dollars worth of effort to give a domain name with no real traffic a page rank?

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1000000 DVC Howto Bounty:

Howto clone Namecoin

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Published on devtome.com
Icoin Genesis Block generated prior 1. August 2013

https://github.com/icoin/icoin

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Quote from: wiser on June 19, 2013, 08:23:30 PM

Quote from: ashleysly on June 19, 2013, 07:28:33 PM

Quote from: wiser on June 19, 2013, 05:52:06 PM

So I clicked on the account 25 link and it says there are 0 Devtome earnings. I added some content yesterday. How soon will the account 25 page update, or how long is the lag between time content is added and time word count from that content shows up as Devtome shares?

It should be updated once the script has been run again. I am sure that http://d.evco.in/charity/devtome_25.csv is the link for the devtome earnings.

And when/how frequently does that happen?

Lots of noob questions I know...

If you mean the script, it's updated daily at 00:30@UTC.

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Quote from: ashleysly on June 19, 2013, 07:28:33 PM

Quote from: wiser on June 19, 2013, 05:52:06 PM

So I clicked on the account 25 link and it says there are 0 Devtome earnings. I added some content yesterday. How soon will the account 25 page update, or how long is the lag between time content is added and time word count from that content shows up as Devtome shares?

It should be updated once the script has been run again. I am sure that http://d.evco.in/charity/devtome_25.csv is the link for the devtome earnings.

And when/how frequently does that happen?

Lots of noob questions I know...

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Quote from: Unthinkingbit on June 19, 2013, 02:26:01 PM

Quote from: emfox on June 19, 2013, 10:43:48 AM

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I was trying to implement this, it's not so that difficult, but with a problem, I have no easy way to stop people from spamming the faucet with different subdomains, e.g. one hold example.com would use aa.example.com and bb.example.com pointing to the same site to apply the faucet payment, I have no good way to determine if they are the same site, and one may generate infinite subdomains as long as he own the domain name. I used to thought if I could set a limit as high as 5 subdomains for one domain, but hey, we have many public site such as blogspot.com, you cannot do this... any suggestion to solve this problem?

Would limiting this to only domain homepages listed on Alexa avoid the problem? In other words:

http://randomwebsite.com/ would be accepted because it has a page rank (860,587) on alexa:
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/randomwebsite.com#

http://googleblog.blogspot.com would be accepted because it has a page rank (20,830) on alexa:
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/googleblog.blogspot.com#

http://googleblog.blogspot.ca/2013/06/google-scholarships-recognize-84.html would not be accepted because it's a subpage:

http://aa.blogspot.com would not be accepted because it does not have a page rank (No Data) on alexa:
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/aa.blogspot.com#

No. No. NO!

Sorry, lol. Alexa means absolutely nothing and is ridiculously easy to manipulate. It has no real-world benefit, other than for the lulz.

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Quote from: wiser on June 19, 2013, 05:52:06 PM

So I clicked on the account 25 link and it says there are 0 Devtome earnings. I added some content yesterday. How soon will the account 25 page update, or how long is the lag between time content is added and time word count from that content shows up as Devtome shares?

It should be updated once the script has been run again. I am sure that http://d.evco.in/charity/devtome_25.csv is the link for the devtome earnings.

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So I clicked on the account 25 link and it says there are 0 Devtome earnings. I added some content yesterday. How soon will the account 25 page update, or how long is the lag between time content is added and time word count from that content shows up as Devtome shares?

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Quote from: wiser on June 19, 2013, 04:23:58 PM

Quote from: emfox on June 18, 2013, 09:16:53 PM

Quote from: wiser on June 18, 2013, 08:07:30 PM

Hey Unthinkingbit,

Would it be too much trouble to post the unofficial earnings for the next round about once or twice a week so we can get an idea of where things are heading?

You may probably refer to http://d.evco.in/charity/ for some infos, specifically http://d.evco.in/charity/receiver_summary.txt. these file updated daily at UTC 00:30.

Thanks!

The receiver file for round 25 is helpful. Is there a similar page which shows each writer's to date word count?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2524087

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Quote from: emfox on June 18, 2013, 09:16:53 PM

Quote from: wiser on June 18, 2013, 08:07:30 PM

Hey Unthinkingbit,

Would it be too much trouble to post the unofficial earnings for the next round about once or twice a week so we can get an idea of where things are heading?

You may probably refer to http://d.evco.in/charity/ for some infos, specifically http://d.evco.in/charity/receiver_summary.txt. these file updated daily at UTC 00:30.

Thanks!

The receiver file for round 25 is helpful. Is there a similar page which shows each writer's to date word count?

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Quote from: emfox on June 19, 2013, 10:43:48 AM

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I was trying to implement this, it's not so that difficult, but with a problem, I have no easy way to stop people from spamming the faucet with different subdomains, e.g. one hold example.com would use aa.example.com and bb.example.com pointing to the same site to apply the faucet payment, I have no good way to determine if they are the same site, and one may generate infinite subdomains as long as he own the domain name. I used to thought if I could set a limit as high as 5 subdomains for one domain, but hey, we have many public site such as blogspot.com, you cannot do this... any suggestion to solve this problem?

Would limiting this to only domain homepages listed on Alexa avoid the problem? In other words:

http://randomwebsite.com/ would be accepted because it has a page rank (860,587) on alexa:
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/randomwebsite.com#

http://googleblog.blogspot.com would be accepted because it has a page rank (20,830) on alexa:
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/googleblog.blogspot.com#

http://googleblog.blogspot.ca/2013/06/google-scholarships-recognize-84.html would not be accepted because it's a subpage:

http://aa.blogspot.com would not be accepted because it does not have a page rank (No Data) on alexa:
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/aa.blogspot.com#

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Quote from: markm on June 19, 2013, 10:48:58 AM

You can't, as even if you had them put files containing codes, they can still make massive numbers of subdomains essentially free and have their webserver show you the different code file you assigned for each to prove thay are different sites, because basically they really are different sites it is merely trivially easy to create thousands of them.

-MarkM-

This. And what you're talking about is called a "wildcard" domain, where you put up a * and then you can write scripts to react based on what subdomain was input.

The only real way to make this work would be to manually review sites that are given, but even so it still causes problems as people can create new forum accounts and such.

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You can't, as even if you had them put files containing codes, they can still make massive numbers of subdomains essentially free and have their webserver show you the different code file you assigned for each to prove thay are different sites, because basically they really are different sites it is merely trivially easy to create thousands of them.

-MarkM-

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