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April 20, 2016, 02:46:28 AM

Well said.



Of course, the only honest way to earn value is to create it.

Every person has some demand, and every person has some ability that can fill another persons demand.

If a perfect global, ultra connected market is established (which it is, with all these wonderful decentralized technologies + internet), then capitalism will ascend to another level.

Because only many entangled global voluntary markets can create a peaceful human society.
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April 19, 2016, 08:03:06 PM
Speaking of the Europe disaster... anyone follow Stefan Molyneux? He has tons of great videos on it.

https://www.youtube.com/user/stefbot/search?query=migrant
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April 19, 2016, 07:53:44 PM

I'd really love to go off on that theoretic tangent. I have many ideas to share. But I can't right now.

Ok lemme share my ideas on greed.

I`m neutral about it, and I think it needs to be balanced.


Greed is good, like Gordon Gekko said, but only up to a certain point. You can wish for a good car , a house, and a beautiful wife, and by being greedy it pushes you beyond your limits, that you previously think you had.

Greed to me is the opposite of lazyness, and its good to give you motivation,and make you evolve past your limit.


But greed can only work  if you respect others too, and you have to do it inside a framework of voluntary association.



It's perfectly good if you see a 100$ bill on the street and pick it up. But it's perfectly bad if you see 100$ in somebody's pocket and you take it out!


When greed meets force and violence, then its when its getting bad.



A greedy businessman expanding his business, therefore hiring more people, and lowering the costs for his customers is perfectly ok.

Greedy socialists asking for more welfare, and thus stealing money directly out of your pocket by taxes is perfectly not ok!



So greed can never be used with violence and force!

Only voluntary greed is ok!

Well said.

You can almost say the market runs on greed. I mean in the sense that wanting more money and success means you must necessarily create value for others, who will voluntarily buy what you're producing. There is the saying that if you can find a way to help a million people or solve a problem they have, then you will necessarily be wealthy in return.

Competition in free markets is the only thing that can provide the balance you speak of. This "mixed economy" aka socialist non-sense is where greed gets out of check and rewards profiting from other peoples misfortunes.
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April 19, 2016, 11:48:27 AM

I'd really love to go off on that theoretic tangent. I have many ideas to share. But I can't right now.

Ok lemme share my ideas on greed.

I`m neutral about it, and I think it needs to be balanced.


Greed is good, like Gordon Gekko said, but only up to a certain point. You can wish for a good car , a house, and a beautiful wife, and by being greedy it pushes you beyond your limits, that you previously think you had.

Greed to me is the opposite of lazyness, and its good to give you motivation,and make you evolve past your limit.


But greed can only work  if you respect others too, and you have to do it inside a framework of voluntary association.



It's perfectly good if you see a 100$ bill on the street and pick it up. But it's perfectly bad if you see 100$ in somebody's pocket and you take it out!


When greed meets force and violence, then its when its getting bad.



A greedy businessman expanding his business, therefore hiring more people, and lowering the costs for his customers is perfectly ok.

Greedy socialists asking for more welfare, and thus stealing money directly out of your pocket by taxes is perfectly not ok!



So greed can never be used with violence and force!

Only voluntary greed is ok!
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April 19, 2016, 09:45:16 AM
Just end the welfare system, and then all problems will be solved.

Remove the regulations, lower the taxes, encourage entrepreneurism in public schools, make more free market jobs, phase out welfare, and then we can live in prosperity.



That's like removing greed from our gene's... unlikely
As you can see you see that everything is getting more online and digital and that can be good for the online payments method because it works also much faster.
Only the new things works not 100% and that is the problem it must be better later.
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April 19, 2016, 06:02:18 AM
Just end the welfare system, and then all problems will be solved.

Remove the regulations, lower the taxes, encourage entrepreneurism in public schools, make more free market jobs, phase out welfare, and then we can live in prosperity.



That's like removing greed from our gene's... unlikely

I would argue that it's more like removing the tendency towards interpersonal violence from our genes.

Completely and utterly impossible over the short run. Probably spontaneous over the long run.

I'd really love to go off on that theoretic tangent. I have many ideas to share. But I can't right now.
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April 18, 2016, 07:30:28 PM
Just end the welfare system, and then all problems will be solved.

Remove the regulations, lower the taxes, encourage entrepreneurism in public schools, make more free market jobs, phase out welfare, and then we can live in prosperity.



That's like removing greed from our gene's... unlikely

I would argue that it's more like removing the tendency towards interpersonal violence from our genes.

Completely and utterly impossible over the short run. Probably spontaneous over the long run.
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April 18, 2016, 02:42:21 PM
Just end the welfare system, and then all problems will be solved.

Remove the regulations, lower the taxes, encourage entrepreneurism in public schools, make more free market jobs, phase out welfare, and then we can live in prosperity.



That's like removing greed from our gene's... unlikely
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April 17, 2016, 10:28:48 AM
Just end the welfare system, and then all problems will be solved.

Remove the regulations, lower the taxes, encourage entrepreneurism in public schools, make more free market jobs, phase out welfare, and then we can live in prosperity.

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April 17, 2016, 03:41:42 AM
WTF happened to our world. Instead of engineers and coders, we've become the social misfit conformance cry baby gestapo propaganda slaves. Is that how you young Europeans think about life, that is always about equality as a human right. Fuck man, no wonder Europe is fucking toasted. Entitled spoiled cry babies, who get pissed off when we don't let them make MLM scams to steal from us.

Hahaha europe is becoming a zombie collectivist land.

Soon they will become borg and they will assimilate us all Cheesy


Well, what gets me about Europe is how they have just submitted to their Islamic Invaders.  In France and the UK (probably other countries too) I have read about "No Go Zones" which are Muslim neighborhoods in major cities.  The cops and firemen are not invited in...  I doubt that American tourists would be welcome either...

Wink

I continue to wonder how much longer the feckless Euro .govs will just let things simmer.  At some point, my hunch is that the Hard Right, in one form or another, will take the lead in discouraging bad behavior by the Rapefugees.  

Should Syrians or Somalis (Obama's latest harvest of Muslims) wind up raping American women, the response here would be very different.  Americans are armed, and will not let them get away with that shit (at least after the first rape or two).
An interesting thing I actually read about this earlier today was that even Somalians are seeing that it is bad in Europe, specifically Sweden, and they say that the truth is hidden and you're spoken out against.

It is starting to get horrendous in Europe, and the left is starting to censor all sorts of information, and anything that doesn't fit their narrative is blocked out.

They submit because they really believe that it is unfair to discriminate or speak hurtful words or actions. The men have been indoctrinated to think like females. Politeness is politically required on all speech.

Two more examples:

you gotta lay low with the insults. getting you nowhere.

What insult is in my immediately prior post  Huh

Is geek an insulting word? I wear that word as badge of honor. I'm a geek.

And Liberland is supposed to be a Libertarian paradise, yet they are accepting applications from Somalians, Egyptians, etc.., so how will they ever maintain a Libertarian culture  Huh

And the application process requires political correctness:

Who is needed in Liberland?

Liberland currently needs people who:

  • have respect for other people and respect the opinions of others, regardless of their race, ethnicity, orientation, or religion
  • have respect for private ownership which is untouchable
  • do not have communist, nazi or other extremist past
  • were not punished for past criminal offences

They seem to have this delusion that they can keep political correctness censorship and maintain respect for private property.  Roll Eyes

As Armstrong has pointed out, it was the discrimination against immigrants who did not assimilate with English and our capitalistic values, that made the great melting pot work as unified high economy-of-scale economy and culture. Once we ended that with anti-discrimination laws, we destroyed the melting pot economy. This is why the USA will breakup into regions.
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April 16, 2016, 08:44:11 PM
WTF happened to our world. Instead of engineers and coders, we've become the social misfit conformance cry baby gestapo propaganda slaves. Is that how you young Europeans think about life, that is always about equality as a human right. Fuck man, no wonder Europe is fucking toasted. Entitled spoiled cry babies, who get pissed off when we don't let them make MLM scams to steal from us.

Hahaha europe is becoming a zombie collectivist land.

Soon they will become borg and they will assimilate us all Cheesy


Well, what gets me about Europe is how they have just submitted to their Islamic Invaders.  In France and the UK (probably other countries too) I have read about "No Go Zones" which are Muslim neighborhoods in major cities.  The cops and firemen are not invited in...  I doubt that American tourists would be welcome either...

Wink

I continue to wonder how much longer the feckless Euro .govs will just let things simmer.  At some point, my hunch is that the Hard Right, in one form or another, will take the lead in discouraging bad behavior by the Rapefugees. 

Should Syrians or Somalis (Obama's latest harvest of Muslims) wind up raping American women, the response here would be very different.  Americans are armed, and will not let them get away with that shit (at least after the first rape or two).
An interesting thing I actually read about this earlier today was that even Somalians are seeing that it is bad in Europe, specifically Sweden, and they say that the truth is hidden and you're spoken out against.

It is starting to get horrendous in Europe, and the left is starting to censor all sorts of information, and anything that doesn't fit their narrative is blocked out.
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April 16, 2016, 08:27:45 PM
WTF happened to our world. Instead of engineers and coders, we've become the social misfit conformance cry baby gestapo propaganda slaves. Is that how you young Europeans think about life, that is always about equality as a human right. Fuck man, no wonder Europe is fucking toasted. Entitled spoiled cry babies, who get pissed off when we don't let them make MLM scams to steal from us.

Hahaha europe is becoming a zombie collectivist land.

Soon they will become borg and they will assimilate us all Cheesy


Well, what gets me about Europe is how they have just submitted to their Islamic Invaders.  In France and the UK (probably other countries too) I have read about "No Go Zones" which are Muslim neighborhoods in major cities.  The cops and firemen are not invited in...  I doubt that American tourists would be welcome either...

Wink

I continue to wonder how much longer the feckless Euro .govs will just let things simmer.  At some point, my hunch is that the Hard Right, in one form or another, will take the lead in discouraging bad behavior by the Rapefugees. 

Should Syrians or Somalis (Obama's latest harvest of Muslims) wind up raping American women, the response here would be very different.  Americans are armed, and will not let them get away with that shit (at least after the first rape or two).
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April 16, 2016, 08:14:10 AM
WTF happened to our world. Instead of engineers and coders, we've become the social misfit conformance cry baby gestapo propaganda slaves. Is that how you young Europeans think about life, that is always about equality as a human right. Fuck man, no wonder Europe is fucking toasted. Entitled spoiled cry babies, who get pissed off when we don't let them make MLM scams to steal from us.

Hahaha europe is becoming a zombie collectivist land.

Soon they will become borg and they will assimilate us all Cheesy
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April 16, 2016, 06:12:20 AM
Europe is culturally destroyed...

you did not state it as a statistical fact...and high crime in area with poverty does not imply the abandonment of rule of law ...it is an inference that is bigoted. One that I find disturbing. It has tainted, greatly my opinion of your. Sorry thats how I feel. and that's a fact

It is a statistical fact that inner cities regions have higher crime rates, but thus by definition a lower respect for the rule of law. Crime can't increase if there aren't more people who disrespect the law or an ineffective legal system that allows repeat offenders. Or a corrupt legal system that prosecutes the innocent. In either case or all of the above, it makes my statement factual.

And it is evident by recent protects that the African-american community to some extent feels the justice system is not entirely serving their interests.

There is some grey area in there, so I did include the word 'perhaps'.

Now would you please stop cluttering the thread with a nonsense attempt to label me as a social misfit. Your biased motivation as a Waves supporter is entirely obvious.

And you are also wasting my very expensive time, which is really pissing me off. Stay on topic. Damn it!

WTF happened to our world. Instead of engineers and coders, we've become the social misfit conformance cry baby gestapo propaganda slaves. Is that how you young Europeans think about life, that is always about equality as a human right. Fuck man, no wonder Europe is fucking toasted. Entitled spoiled cry babies, who get pissed off when we don't let them make MLM scams to steal from us.


WTF happened to our world. Instead of engineers and coders, we've become the social misfit conformance cry baby gestapo propaganda slaves. Is that how you young Europeans think about life, that is always about equality as a human right. Fuck man, no wonder Europe is fucking toasted. Entitled spoiled cry babies, who get pissed off when we don't let them make MLM scams to steal from us.

how to spit on our ancestors fight for rights in 3 lines  Roll Eyes don't forget that humanity has not enjoyed such rights for 99% of its existence.

The Magna Carta and Bill of Rights didn't propose to make us equal. Get an education and then come back here. Until then, don't let the door hit you in your dumb ass on the way out of here. Bye uneducated dufus. You are now on Ignore along with the other dumb or disingenuous trolls traumschiff and Come-from-Beyond.
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April 14, 2016, 05:52:13 AM
What exactly do you define the Armstrong model as?  When Bitcoin Core devs get mad at me about some random technical disagreement, words like "come on, you're not omniscient" are usually said.  So are you saying that when I claim it's an error-prone, probablistic model, that's wrong?  What else could it possibly be?  Are you really going to assign omniscient traits to this guy's gambling system?

As for your website, it's kind of bizarre that I have similar conclusions involving AI that you did, almost word for word in the David Latapite "transhumanism" thread from a year ago where I said true AI is impossible without human evolution, except in probably more detail.  Then the actual, real danger of AI or attempts to create it is in the last paragraph.  From my post:

[...]

The unbounded attribute of the universe appears to be fractal, i.e. patterns within patterns. So the unbounded entropy is in the small, not in the large. This is why Armstrong points out that short-term cycles (e.g. day trading) are much more noisy (i.e. randomized). The higher-level the cycles in time, the less random the deviation.

So while A.I. will eventually emulate much of what it can observe that a set of humans can do, it can't (unless it becomes integrated within evolution and competitive reproduction) make every copy of itself a unigue solution to the unbounded evolutionary fitness continuum. The unseen fractal patterns encoded in the evolutionary continuum are not carried within the genome and dynamic living network of A.I. bots, because for one thing they are discrete and not analog biological. The complexity/entropy of a living creature is unbounded in the unseen fractal patterns encoded in the evolutionary continuum.

Here is the key point. Nature is not top-down controlled and there is no 'error' as every variation is information to the evolutionary continuum. A.I. would need to become alive in the sense that it is a self-reproducing, self-motivated, decentralized process controlled by no one. Then it would no longer be ARTIFICIAL intelligence.

So Armstrong has correlated the large fractal pattern cycles which are stable as is man's lifespan, reproductive maturity, Sun spots cycles, Earth's various cycles such as earthquakes, etc..
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April 12, 2016, 03:03:53 AM

String theory is not one uniform "11 dimensional theory" it is simply a broad and theoretical framework physicist have developed to try and understand how the universe works.

Yes indeed it's the M-theory that talks about that, i messed them up.

Yet, string theory is probably a quackery as well, because as you said it's unfalsifiable, but also there is no proof whatsoever of being true.


Not even a small proof that they are even heading in the right direction.


An invisible, untouchable, undetectable unicorn is also unfalsifiable, and it can never be proven, also it has no meaning whatsoever.


I start to think that physicists nowadays are becoming theologians, because whatever they can't rationally explain, they just invent some unfalsifiable ,yet coolish and geek sounding theory, and take it for granted.


You said that string theory haven't wen't through the scientific process, yet everyone is working with it, and building new theories on it.


I fear, that they are building on a house of cards, because when truth hits them, it will all come down.




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April 11, 2016, 10:06:27 PM

... but you must have an open mind, and dont fall into the dogma, not even for scientists.

RealBitcoin I place more priority on the quoted aspect of your thinking above rather then some of your other comments.

For example you appear to have summarily rejected all of modern string theory as 11 dimensional irrationality but is that really what string theory is?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory
Quote from: String Theory
In physics, string theory is a theoretical framework in which the point-like particles of particle physics are replaced by one-dimensional objects called strings. It describes how these strings propagate through space and interact with each other. On distance scales larger than the string scale, a string looks just like an ordinary particle, with its mass, charge, and other properties determined by the vibrational state of the string. In string theory, one of the many vibrational states of the string corresponds to the graviton, a quantum mechanical particle that carries gravitational force. Thus string theory is a theory of quantum gravity.

String theory is a broad and varied subject that attempts to address a number of deep questions of fundamental physics. String theory has been applied to a variety of problems in black hole physics, early universe cosmology, nuclear physics, and condensed matter physics, and it has stimulated a number of major developments in pure mathematics. Because string theory potentially provides a unified description of gravity and particle physics, it is a candidate for a theory of everything, a self-contained mathematical model that describes all fundamental forces and forms of matter. Despite much work on these problems, it is not known to what extent string theory describes the real world or how much freedom the theory allows to choose the details.

String theory is not one uniform "11 dimensional theory" it is simply a broad and theoretical framework physicist have developed to try and understand how the universe works.  As it is so broad it allows vastly different conceptualizations. For example both the theory of quantum gravity (graviton) and the holographic principle where gravity = entropy were derived by string theorists but these interpretations are mutually exclusive.

Our inability to intuitively grasp string theory is not grounds for rejecting it as string theory describes events on a scale so small we should expect it to be utterly alien to us. Einsteins relativity at relativistic speeds gives similarly alien conceptualizations as time passes at different rates in different frames of reference. Einstein's theory gained wide acceptance because he was able to explain astronomical phenonoma that Newtonian physics could not. Specifically his theory was able to accurately describe the precession of the perihelion of Mercury. String theory does not yet have a similar empirical test but it remains possible that someday it will. Until empiric confirmation is obtained string theory should be treated only as a possibility. However, outright rejection is simply premature for string theory has not been falsified.
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April 11, 2016, 08:08:41 PM
an infinite number of universes

Please understand the distinction between infinite and unbounded.

Infinite implies the tree fell in the forest even if no one observed it. Unbounded means no observer can find the limit.

That is an incredibly important distinction, because it totally changes the model.

I am certain the universe of universes is provably unbounded and not provably infinite. The proof will go something like how I have explained that a total observer (instead of partial orders) would require infinite speed-of-light (to observe the totality in real-time) which would collapse past and future into the a non-existent, infinitesimal point in spacetime.

P.S. CoinCube has been developing a lot of new theory and I haven't been able to pay attention. Hopefully I will have time in the future.
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Strange, yet attractive.
April 11, 2016, 04:35:44 PM
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April 11, 2016, 04:28:53 PM

Ah yes. Reality. The key word to our perception of the world around us. With all due respect I'd indulge you to read Plato's Cave. I'm mostly sure you will understand that you can't simply aphorize a scientific theory by just appointing it to a false reality (or leftism ideas, for that matter). It's a nice read, even if we continue to disagree, Plato always offers a nice advice.

Goodnight from Greece.

Look string theory is data fitted. They have ultra complex mathematical models, that have flaws in them, so they explain those flaws by: "Oh it must be 11th dimensional vibrating strings".

Its the same as the God argument:  "I dont know how it works, so it must be God's miracle" Cheesy



Then, the String theory has another flaw, namely that you can't tie the variables to reality:

It's like saying              a+b =2  , but so what? 

How can "a" or "b" represent anything in our world?

Those 11th dimensional strings, that have absolutely no proof whatsoever of being real, are the same as the invisible and untouchable unicorn argument.



It's pretty easy to detect bullshit around but you must have an open mind, and dont fall into the dogma, not even for scientists.



And don't give me Plato, his philosophy sucks.
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