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legendary
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May 30, 2015, 08:27:21 PM
Turns out God is in us all, all along. No need to wait for anyone. We're all born from stars, after all.
legendary
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May 30, 2015, 08:23:20 PM
It is an 'Us' versus 'Them'. You need to accept that as fact.

The real 'Them' is a very small set of people, hundreds perhaps. My theory is that the top honchos do not have identity (proven by wealth distribution analysis that misses at minimum dozens of people from the top).

Then there is an elaborate network of tools, starting from the bilderbergers, going down to the underpaid rural primary school teacher who perpetuates brainwash from her small part.

The tools are the people in the matrix, their whole life is systematized to be the fuel to 'Them'. It does not really matter how high a person is in this tool hierarchy, he does not have power, nor freedom, and is generally mindless and does not realize it.

We should not think that the police who shoot unarmed people having a picnic through the head are 'Them'. In reality they are not much different from drones, in being so completely brainwashed that they cannot act morally. Yes, it is very evil to shoot people, but it does not make the police our enemies. Certainly every policeman who pulls the trigger ending the life of an innocent man, should be lynched for capital murder, but this is only for justice, it does not make them our enemy.

Nowadays the brainwash is so deep that preaching the gospel of grace (traditional Christian gospel of Jesus dying for your sins) is scarcely received in the west. The reason is that people are so drugged by the brainwash that they have no concept of sin, and do not know when they are committing sin, do not see the tower of sin that reaches heaven in the zionist conspiracy, etc.etc.

It is about time to start preaching the gospel of Kingdom.

These people at the top of the pyramid are Satanists. They crave and feed off of blood lust and human sacrifice. They use their power & vast wealth to trickle down their evil throughout society corrupting one mind at a time. They are not in a hurry, they can take their time. A lot of people will think that this is all bullshit but to these elite it is not bullshit, it is a way of life.


sad, but true. Cheesy

edit: otoh the sooner the antechrist, the sooner the return of the lord. so who/what will it be? Grin

You guys need the return of jesu only because jeshu never fulfilled even one prophecy that was required for a Messiah in the Jewish Scriptures.
Even in the New testament jeshu claims that God forsake him when he died on the cross for the punishment of his sins (=breaking the Shabbath which is a sin that a Jew deserves to be dead in God's laws and raising against the rabbis from which jeshu has a certain punishment I do not want to tell you here but you can find it pretty easily from the Talmud).
In the western media the western church has brainswashed people to believe in this nonesense and made people unable to think critically. If people were critisizing, there would be no one person left in the churches.
legendary
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May 30, 2015, 05:21:49 PM
It is an 'Us' versus 'Them'. You need to accept that as fact.

The real 'Them' is a very small set of people, hundreds perhaps. My theory is that the top honchos do not have identity (proven by wealth distribution analysis that misses at minimum dozens of people from the top).

Then there is an elaborate network of tools, starting from the bilderbergers, going down to the underpaid rural primary school teacher who perpetuates brainwash from her small part.

The tools are the people in the matrix, their whole life is systematized to be the fuel to 'Them'. It does not really matter how high a person is in this tool hierarchy, he does not have power, nor freedom, and is generally mindless and does not realize it.

We should not think that the police who shoot unarmed people having a picnic through the head are 'Them'. In reality they are not much different from drones, in being so completely brainwashed that they cannot act morally. Yes, it is very evil to shoot people, but it does not make the police our enemies. Certainly every policeman who pulls the trigger ending the life of an innocent man, should be lynched for capital murder, but this is only for justice, it does not make them our enemy.

Nowadays the brainwash is so deep that preaching the gospel of grace (traditional Christian gospel of Jesus dying for your sins) is scarcely received in the west. The reason is that people are so drugged by the brainwash that they have no concept of sin, and do not know when they are committing sin, do not see the tower of sin that reaches heaven in the zionist conspiracy, etc.etc.

It is about time to start preaching the gospel of Kingdom.

These people at the top of the pyramid are Satanists. They crave and feed off of blood lust and human sacrifice. They use their power & vast wealth to trickle down their evil throughout society corrupting one mind at a time. They are not in a hurry, they can take their time. A lot of people will think that this is all bullshit but to these elite it is not bullshit, it is a way of life.


sad, but true. Cheesy

edit: otoh the sooner the antechrist, the sooner the return of the lord. so who/what will it be? Grin

A band member of The Scorpions went public in the past couple of days saying that he went to 'Snuff' parties with the rich and famous where they paid $100,000 each to watch live murders. If it is true then why haven't the authorities began an investigation?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDwBDs_TjM0

Sick fucks!
legendary
Activity: 1260
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May 30, 2015, 05:09:55 PM
It is an 'Us' versus 'Them'. You need to accept that as fact.

The real 'Them' is a very small set of people, hundreds perhaps. My theory is that the top honchos do not have identity (proven by wealth distribution analysis that misses at minimum dozens of people from the top).

Then there is an elaborate network of tools, starting from the bilderbergers, going down to the underpaid rural primary school teacher who perpetuates brainwash from her small part.

The tools are the people in the matrix, their whole life is systematized to be the fuel to 'Them'. It does not really matter how high a person is in this tool hierarchy, he does not have power, nor freedom, and is generally mindless and does not realize it.

We should not think that the police who shoot unarmed people having a picnic through the head are 'Them'. In reality they are not much different from drones, in being so completely brainwashed that they cannot act morally. Yes, it is very evil to shoot people, but it does not make the police our enemies. Certainly every policeman who pulls the trigger ending the life of an innocent man, should be lynched for capital murder, but this is only for justice, it does not make them our enemy.

Nowadays the brainwash is so deep that preaching the gospel of grace (traditional Christian gospel of Jesus dying for your sins) is scarcely received in the west. The reason is that people are so drugged by the brainwash that they have no concept of sin, and do not know when they are committing sin, do not see the tower of sin that reaches heaven in the zionist conspiracy, etc.etc.

It is about time to start preaching the gospel of Kingdom.

These people at the top of the pyramid are Satanists. They crave and feed off of blood lust and human sacrifice. They use their power & vast wealth to trickle down their evil throughout society corrupting one mind at a time. They are not in a hurry, they can take their time. A lot of people will think that this is all bullshit but to these elite it is not bullshit, it is a way of life.


sad, but true. Cheesy

edit: otoh the sooner the antechrist, the sooner the return of the lord. so who/what will it be? Grin
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1019
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May 30, 2015, 05:04:10 PM
It is an 'Us' versus 'Them'. You need to accept that as fact.

The real 'Them' is a very small set of people, hundreds perhaps. My theory is that the top honchos do not have identity (proven by wealth distribution analysis that misses at minimum dozens of people from the top).

Then there is an elaborate network of tools, starting from the bilderbergers, going down to the underpaid rural primary school teacher who perpetuates brainwash from her small part.

The tools are the people in the matrix, their whole life is systematized to be the fuel to 'Them'. It does not really matter how high a person is in this tool hierarchy, he does not have power, nor freedom, and is generally mindless and does not realize it.

We should not think that the police who shoot unarmed people having a picnic through the head are 'Them'. In reality they are not much different from drones, in being so completely brainwashed that they cannot act morally. Yes, it is very evil to shoot people, but it does not make the police our enemies. Certainly every policeman who pulls the trigger ending the life of an innocent man, should be lynched for capital murder, but this is only for justice, it does not make them our enemy.

Nowadays the brainwash is so deep that preaching the gospel of grace (traditional Christian gospel of Jesus dying for your sins) is scarcely received in the west. The reason is that people are so drugged by the brainwash that they have no concept of sin, and do not know when they are committing sin, do not see the tower of sin that reaches heaven in the zionist conspiracy, etc.etc.

It is about time to start preaching the gospel of Kingdom.

These people at the top of the pyramid are Satanists. They crave and feed off of blood lust and human sacrifice. They use their power & vast wealth to trickle down their evil throughout society corrupting one mind at a time. They are not in a hurry, they can take their time. A lot of people will think that this is all bullshit but to these elite it is not bullshit, it is a way of life.
donator
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1036
May 30, 2015, 04:59:34 PM
It is an 'Us' versus 'Them'. You need to accept that as fact.

The real 'Them' is a very small set of people, hundreds perhaps. My theory is that the top honchos do not have identity (proven by wealth distribution analysis that misses at minimum dozens of people from the top).

Then there is an elaborate network of tools, starting from the bilderbergers, going down to the underpaid rural primary school teacher who perpetuates brainwash from her small part.

The tools are the people in the matrix, their whole life is systematized to be the fuel to 'Them'. It does not really matter how high a person is in this tool hierarchy, he does not have power, nor freedom, and is generally mindless and does not realize it.

We should not think that the police who shoot unarmed people having a picnic through the head are 'Them'. In reality they are not much different from drones, in being so completely brainwashed that they cannot act morally. Yes, it is very evil to shoot people, but it does not make the police our enemies. Certainly every policeman who pulls the trigger ending the life of an innocent man, should be lynched for capital murder, but this is only for justice, it does not make them our enemy.

Nowadays the brainwash is so deep that preaching the gospel of grace (traditional Christian gospel of Jesus dying for your sins) is scarcely received in the west. The reason is that people are so drugged by the brainwash that they have no concept of sin, and do not know when they are committing sin, do not see the tower of sin that reaches heaven in the zionist conspiracy, etc.etc.

It is about time to start preaching the gospel of Kingdom.
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1019
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May 30, 2015, 04:58:49 PM
It is an 'Us' versus 'Them'. You need to accept that as fact.

more like an us vs us.

would you be different if "borned" on the other side?

semantics - no way of knowing

I do believe that Democracy is one of the worst forms of governance that has ever existed. Just as bad as Communism and Fascism. 
legendary
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May 30, 2015, 04:57:22 PM
It is an 'Us' versus 'Them'. You need to accept that as fact.

I accept my freedom to opt out of that kind of thinking.

And I establish my freedom to think the way that I do.
legendary
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May 30, 2015, 04:51:26 PM
It is an 'Us' versus 'Them'. You need to accept that as fact.

more like an us vs us.

would you be different if "borned" on the other side?
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1019
May 30, 2015, 04:50:34 PM
It is an 'Us' versus 'Them'. You need to accept that as fact.

I accept my freedom to opt out of that kind of thinking.
legendary
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May 30, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
It is an 'Us' versus 'Them'. You need to accept that as fact.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1019
May 30, 2015, 04:40:25 PM
It's not that people want what you think they want, you are making a judgment based on a technology that is being circumvented.

Whether or not a Knowledge Age could alter the incentives people had as serfs is irrelevant to the chasm in front of us on this reset, which Bitcoin does not have the immutable attributes to cross.

We get there with the collective wisdom of the crowd, not by a central authority, Bitcoin is just the last key to completing  the internet.

You are going to reeducate all the 60+ age Boomers (who dominate the political demographics in the West) how to become Knowledge Age workers and abandon their bankrupt retirement plans, all within the next 3 years which is the ETA for the cliff dive into the chasm?

Of course not.

The individual incentives of the People who are voting can not align with your vision of global optimization within the timeframe of the rapidly approaching event horizon of economic collapse and totalitarianism.

Edit: Oxford U. in 2012 predicted 47% of existing jobs would be displaced by automation within 20 years. Thus a majority of the working age population are not ready for the transition to a meritocratic Knowledge Age. Bitcoin can't accelerate this process of adjustment, thus the approaching chasm is unavoidable.

There is no stopping the coming economic collapse. It can be delayed but not prevented. The mass populace will look to the governments and banksters to stop the collapse that they have engineered. The Hagealian Dialectic meal plan is serving sheep for dinner and it will be an all you can eat buffet.

The new Knowledge Age will never arrive in time because the vast majority do not want it. Also it you are thinking that today's youth will adopt the new paradigm think again. This generation of youth is the most brain dead comatose generation to ever come along. They've got smart Devices that allow them to air their life story on social media. They are a lost cause. They are slaves to the machine.

I find your lack of faith disturbing...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=fW8amMCVAJQ


And, whose generation did my generation have to be parented from again?  Roll Eyes

LOL I rest my case.

You miss my point. We have a responsibility to each other, yet you are attempting to  continue perpetuating an us vs. them mentality.
full member
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May 30, 2015, 04:38:04 PM
not sure if posted or well known already - but unsurprisingly there is a next gen tor network under development called Astoria:

http://www.dailydot.com/politics/tor-astoria-timing-attack-client/
legendary
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legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1019
011110000110110101110010
May 30, 2015, 04:14:31 PM
It's not that people want what you think they want, you are making a judgment based on a technology that is being circumvented.

Whether or not a Knowledge Age could alter the incentives people had as serfs is irrelevant to the chasm in front of us on this reset, which Bitcoin does not have the immutable attributes to cross.

We get there with the collective wisdom of the crowd, not by a central authority, Bitcoin is just the last key to completing  the internet.

You are going to reeducate all the 60+ age Boomers (who dominate the political demographics in the West) how to become Knowledge Age workers and abandon their bankrupt retirement plans, all within the next 3 years which is the ETA for the cliff dive into the chasm?

Of course not.

The individual incentives of the People who are voting can not align with your vision of global optimization within the timeframe of the rapidly approaching event horizon of economic collapse and totalitarianism.

Edit: Oxford U. in 2012 predicted 47% of existing jobs would be displaced by automation within 20 years. Thus a majority of the working age population are not ready for the transition to a meritocratic Knowledge Age. Bitcoin can't accelerate this process of adjustment, thus the approaching chasm is unavoidable.

There is no stopping the coming economic collapse. It can be delayed but not prevented. The mass populace will look to the governments and banksters to stop the collapse that they have engineered. The Hagealian Dialectic meal plan is serving sheep for dinner and it will be an all you can eat buffet.

The new Knowledge Age will never arrive in time because the vast majority do not want it. Also it you are thinking that today's youth will adopt the new paradigm think again. This generation of youth is the most brain dead comatose generation to ever come along. They've got smart Devices that allow them to air their life story on social media. They are a lost cause. They are slaves to the machine.

I find your lack of faith disturbing...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=fW8amMCVAJQ


And, whose generation did my generation have to be parented from again?  Roll Eyes

LOL I rest my case.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1019
May 30, 2015, 04:09:25 PM
It's not that people want what you think they want, you are making a judgment based on a technology that is being circumvented.

Whether or not a Knowledge Age could alter the incentives people had as serfs is irrelevant to the chasm in front of us on this reset, which Bitcoin does not have the immutable attributes to cross.

We get there with the collective wisdom of the crowd, not by a central authority, Bitcoin is just the last key to completing  the internet.

You are going to reeducate all the 60+ age Boomers (who dominate the political demographics in the West) how to become Knowledge Age workers and abandon their bankrupt retirement plans, all within the next 3 years which is the ETA for the cliff dive into the chasm?

Of course not.

The individual incentives of the People who are voting can not align with your vision of global optimization within the timeframe of the rapidly approaching event horizon of economic collapse and totalitarianism.

Edit: Oxford U. in 2012 predicted 47% of existing jobs would be displaced by automation within 20 years. Thus a majority of the working age population are not ready for the transition to a meritocratic Knowledge Age. Bitcoin can't accelerate this process of adjustment, thus the approaching chasm is unavoidable.

There is no stopping the coming economic collapse. It can be delayed but not prevented. The mass populace will look to the governments and banksters to stop the collapse that they have engineered. The Hagealian Dialectic meal plan is serving sheep for dinner and it will be an all you can eat buffet.

The new Knowledge Age will never arrive in time because the vast majority do not want it. Also it you are thinking that today's youth will adopt the new paradigm think again. This generation of youth is the most brain dead comatose generation to ever come along. They've got smart Devices that allow them to air their life story on social media. They are a lost cause. They are slaves to the machine.

I find your lack of faith disturbing...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=fW8amMCVAJQ


And, whose generation did my generation have to be parented from again?  Roll Eyes
donator
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May 30, 2015, 03:17:10 PM
Edit: Monero's other problem is there is not much demand to use it as a currency, thus afaik you have to cash out through Bitcoin (or fiat) thus in many scenarios reducing Monero to Bitcoin's attributes.

I think it is quite the contrary really.

I have used Monero for:

- wealth storage
- international payments and settlements
- denomination of contracts
- financial services eg options
- purchasing kitchen services, singing lessons, gym personal training, pizza, miscellaneous substances (5 "cash-like" things).

Random people are more eager to take Monero than Bitcoin in exchange for their services. I also am more interested to offer it because it's anonymous and so easy to use. It is self-evident that I will accept Monero in place of any other currency for all dues to me, in fact started this already nearly a year ago.

I don't get why you say there is no demand for XMR as currency.. for me it's more useful than Bitcoin, it can do all the same things but is private. This is not marketing, just an experiential fact.
legendary
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May 30, 2015, 02:33:15 PM
It's not that people want what you think they want, you are making a judgment based on a technology that is being circumvented.

Whether or not a Knowledge Age could alter the incentives people had as serfs is irrelevant to the chasm in front of us on this reset, which Bitcoin does not have the immutable attributes to cross.

We get there with the collective wisdom of the crowd, not by a central authority, Bitcoin is just the last key to completing  the internet.

You are going to reeducate all the 60+ age Boomers (who dominate the political demographics in the West) how to become Knowledge Age workers and abandon their bankrupt retirement plans, all within the next 3 years which is the ETA for the cliff dive into the chasm?

Of course not.

The individual incentives of the People who are voting can not align with your vision of global optimization within the timeframe of the rapidly approaching event horizon of economic collapse and totalitarianism.

Edit: Oxford U. in 2012 predicted 47% of existing jobs would be displaced by automation within 20 years. Thus a majority of the working age population are not ready for the transition to a meritocratic Knowledge Age. Bitcoin can't accelerate this process of adjustment, thus the approaching chasm is unavoidable.

There is no stopping the coming economic collapse. It can be delayed but not prevented. The mass populace will look to the governments and banksters to stop the collapse that they have engineered. The Hagealian Dialectic meal plan is serving sheep for dinner and it will be an all you can eat buffet.

The new Knowledge Age will never arrive in time because the vast majority do not want it. Also it you are thinking that today's youth will adopt the new paradigm think again. This generation of youth is the most brain dead comatose generation to ever come along. They've got smart Devices that allow them to air their life story on social media. They are a lost cause. They are slaves to the machine.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 262
May 30, 2015, 02:08:57 PM
It's not that people want what you think they want, you are making a judgment based on a technology that is being circumvented.

Whether or not a Knowledge Age could alter the incentives people had as serfs is irrelevant to the chasm in front of us on this reset, which Bitcoin does not have the immutable attributes to cross.

We get there with the collective wisdom of the crowd, not by a central authority, Bitcoin is just the last key to completing  the internet.

You are going to reeducate all the 60+ age Boomers (who dominate the political demographics in the West) how to become Knowledge Age workers and abandon their bankrupt retirement plans, all within the next 3 years which is the ETA for the cliff dive into the chasm?

Of course not.

The individual incentives of the People who are voting can not align with your vision of global optimization within the timeframe of the rapidly approaching event horizon of economic collapse and totalitarianism.

Edit: Oxford U. in 2012 predicted 47% of existing jobs would be displaced by automation within 20 years. Thus a majority of the working age population are not ready for the transition to a meritocratic Knowledge Age. Bitcoin can't accelerate this process of adjustment, thus the approaching chasm is unavoidable.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 262
May 30, 2015, 01:05:08 PM
Monero solves all of the problems you describe. The new decentralized anonymous crypto already exists.

No it has essentially the same centralization issues as all crypto-coins currently do.

Monero has one aspect of the anonymity (but I argue not even the adequate IP obfuscation, nor quantum computing resistance)

now that we have money types that can navigate around these monopolies

Which money can resist takeover by centralization?

Sorry I don't see any such money that exists, not even gold.

You nor anyone on this planet can trace a Monero transaction unless the parties involved allow them to. That is anonymity. It is far from centralized. No one can tell how many Monero that I have accumulated, if any Smiley

I am referring to centralization of mining and control over the blockchain and transactions. Monero and every other (at least PoW) crypto-coin is essentially the same as Bitcoin in this regard.

As for the orthogonal issue of anonymity, without IP obfuscation the NSA can most likely trace Monero transactions. You will notice smooth did not rebut me when I challenged him on that recently. Smooth may or may not (he seems to claim no strong guarantees) think I2P is sufficient, but he admits he can't prove that.

Also Monero is not quantum resistant, so we can assume that in perhaps 15+ years (according to IBM), all our saved secrets get cracked ex post facto.

Also there is another more dubious and esoteric issue with Monero's ring sigs, that I'd rather not delve into now.

Edit: Monero's other problem is there is not much demand to use it as a currency, thus afaik you have to cash out through Bitcoin (or fiat) thus in many scenarios reducing Monero to Bitcoin's attributes.
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