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Long Live CLAM
May 04, 2015, 03:56:55 PM
State capitalism is not the best social system.
The West foolishly thought to exploit the rest of the planet without the others react.
First Asia then South America and Africa,what matters is the geopolitics.
Empires always fall, is nature.







Very true, though they may last long they always fail.
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May 04, 2015, 03:41:41 PM
State capitalism is not the best social system.
The West foolishly thought to exploit the rest of the planet without the others react.
First Asia then South America and Africa,what matters is the geopolitics.
Empires always fall, is nature.






legendary
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May 04, 2015, 02:48:46 PM
...

In honor (really!) of CoinCube, I started a thread on a similar topic: "Economic Totalitarianism" nearby.

My intention for practical ideas that many/most of us can actually DO at a personal level to defend ourselves against the War on CA$H, ZIRP/NIRP, etc.

My intention and hope is for practical ideas that anyone (or almost anyone) can do, and to avoid esoterica found here ("Marxism") that is difficult for me to even understand...

Smiley

I (we all) already know that our pals at .gov are trying to steal all they can from us by almost any means necessary.  So let´s share some ideas and tools...



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bigtimespaghetti.com
May 04, 2015, 01:56:45 PM
But what are you going to do once we are literally forced to deploy some marxist-like measures like minimum guaranteed welfare once automation makes it impossible to go above a certain treshhold of unemployment? Assuming you are not delusional enough to think there will be enough jobs for everyone, and assuming you are not a psychopath that would let that big % of people die when they aren't responsible of being replaced by machines (your or some of your friends could be on this % in the future), what are you going to do? shoot yourself because history and technological developments forces us to give welfare proving some of your dogmas wrong? get some perspective buddy.

The solution is simple. There will be too many jobs (in fact there are already way more jobs than there are skilled on people on earth[1]) but many people will refuse to adapt and won't attain necessary skills. Those hard-headed Marxists will huddle together in a bankrupted welfare one-world morass and effectively kills themselves with State war and eugenics. There is nothing I could possibly do to save them. They will try to steal resources from everyone and bring everything down into the abyss with them. Problem solved by nature (and a pandemic might help out too).

With so many making posts like yours it is clear to see why the world is going to fall into a severe abyss.

[1]http://www.quora.com/Are-there-too-many-or-not-enough-programmers-in-the-world
http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/2013/05/if-theres-a-shortage-of-programmers-why-arent-wages-up.html
http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/27/write-code-get-paid/


Are you literally brain dead? We are heading towards increased perpetual unemployment due automation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

It doesn't take rocket science PhD levels of intellect to see how we are headed towards a dead end within the current system.
And no, not everyone is going to be able to magically become programmers. Me for example, im unable to program, my brain is just not wired that way. You are legitimately delusional if you think all we need is making all those factory workers, taxi drivers, and the long list becoming programmers, just lol. And lol if you think all those simple tier programmers aren't going to get automated as well.

At the risk of sounding trite, a Knowledge Age does not have to be just about programming. Sites like Etsy show a demonstrable demand for personalised products. Yes it's hard to make a living that way, but the convulsions from automation are one of many headwinds facing society. Many unskilled jobs have been protected by the state for years- at the expense of those more productive. I've retaken the Jung/Myers Briggs personality test and apparently I'm INFJ/INTJ so I understand your concern for people but there doesn't seem to be a pretty way to resolve any of this. It may be best to give society less pity (part of the reason we are in this mess) and let it try and repair itself without top-down measures. For example the state getting out of the way here is now referred to as a 'miracle'. Perhaps not entirely appropriate, but I see some similarities.
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May 04, 2015, 01:50:01 PM
But what are you going to do once we are literally forced to deploy some marxist-like measures like minimum guaranteed welfare once automation makes it impossible to go above a certain treshhold of unemployment? Assuming you are not delusional enough to think there will be enough jobs for everyone, and assuming you are not a psychopath that would let that big % of people die when they aren't responsible of being replaced by machines (your or some of your friends could be on this % in the future), what are you going to do? shoot yourself because history and technological developments forces us to give welfare proving some of your dogmas wrong? get some perspective buddy.

The solution is simple. There will be too many jobs (in fact there are already way more jobs than there are skilled on people on earth[1]) but many people will refuse to adapt and won't attain necessary skills. Those hard-headed Marxists will huddle together in a bankrupted welfare one-world morass and effectively kills themselves with State war and eugenics. There is nothing I could possibly do to save them. They will try to steal resources from everyone and bring everything down into the abyss with them. Problem solved by nature (and a pandemic might help out too).

With so many making posts like yours it is clear to see why the world is going to fall into a severe abyss.

[1]http://www.quora.com/Are-there-too-many-or-not-enough-programmers-in-the-world
http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/2013/05/if-theres-a-shortage-of-programmers-why-arent-wages-up.html
http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/27/write-code-get-paid/


Are you literally brain dead? We are heading towards increased perpetual unemployment due automation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

It doesn't take rocket science PhD levels of intellect to see how we are headed towards a dead end within the current system.
And no, not everyone is going to be able to magically become programmers. Me for example, im unable to program, my brain is just not wired that way. You are legitimately delusional if you think all we need is making all those factory workers, taxi drivers, and the long list becoming programmers, just lol. And lol if you think all those simple tier programmers aren't going to get automated as well.

Hmmph can't believe that I am sticking up for TPTB (must be my ego) but he is right on this one. If automation is more productive then it can not be turned off or never built just to keep people working. Automation is what gave us a lot of what makes society more comfortable. Automation is allowing us to communicate right now.

If unemployment is caused because of automation then so be it. Get trained to work on the components of automation building and/or maintenance otherwise step aside and retire and/or die.
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May 04, 2015, 01:43:36 PM
But what are you going to do once we are literally forced to deploy some marxist-like measures like minimum guaranteed welfare once automation makes it impossible to go above a certain treshhold of unemployment? Assuming you are not delusional enough to think there will be enough jobs for everyone, and assuming you are not a psychopath that would let that big % of people die when they aren't responsible of being replaced by machines (your or some of your friends could be on this % in the future), what are you going to do? shoot yourself because history and technological developments forces us to give welfare proving some of your dogmas wrong? get some perspective buddy.

The solution is simple. There will be too many jobs (in fact there are already way more jobs than there are skilled on people on earth[1]) but many people will refuse to adapt and won't attain necessary skills. Those hard-headed Marxists will huddle together in a bankrupted welfare one-world morass and effectively kills themselves with State war and eugenics. There is nothing I could possibly do to save them. They will try to steal resources from everyone and bring everything down into the abyss with them. Problem solved by nature (and a pandemic might help out too).

With so many making posts like yours it is clear to see why the world is going to fall into a severe abyss.

[1]http://www.quora.com/Are-there-too-many-or-not-enough-programmers-in-the-world
http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/2013/05/if-theres-a-shortage-of-programmers-why-arent-wages-up.html
http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/27/write-code-get-paid/


Are you literally brain dead? We are heading towards increased perpetual unemployment due automation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

It doesn't take rocket science PhD levels of intellect to see how we are headed towards a dead end within the current system.
And no, not everyone is going to be able to magically become programmers. Me for example, im unable to program, my brain is just not wired that way. You are legitimately delusional if you think all we need is making all those factory workers, taxi drivers, and the long list becoming programmers, just lol. And lol if you think all those simple tier programmers aren't going to get automated as well.
legendary
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May 04, 2015, 12:20:59 PM
Taxes are for little people, as well as consequences.

The Gang Banksters blew a bubble and siphoned off all the mass murder technology they could ever desire, if their desires could be limited, and now it is time to save the remaining resources for themselves...  and out of hands like yours (and mine).
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bigtimespaghetti.com
May 04, 2015, 12:27:56 AM
The real tragedy is the massive and rising cost of undergrad education. Undergraduate degrees despite the hype do not lead to guaranteed high income jobs unless you are smart about what you study and are good at what you do.


It is similar in the UK. Except the loans are government (tax payer) backed. Fees have at least tripled in ten years, probably quadrupled (I haven't checked recently). Though the repayments are automatic (depending on your income/tax) it's less burdensome in terms of repayment and interest  than the US, but has still warped the educational institutions. I think anyone giving it a few minutes of thought understands it's a cynical government program to prevent unemployment numbers from growing as fast as they would without somewhere to funnel unwitting students.
To say that 10% of my peers (out of 5-700) gained employment commensurate with their area of study would be very generous.

edit: google 'project hero student loans' for some truly nauseating scheming by the authority to milk those indebted by retroactively changing their terms of the loan to raise the interest (UK), I don't think this would stand in court but it would not surprise me to see similar initiatives on the horizon.
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May 03, 2015, 08:55:03 PM
CoinCube has an impossible job of rebutting me. I await his failed attempt in 2 days.


"If you practice you can win every battle." - Manny Pacquiao   Cool
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May 03, 2015, 08:48:05 PM
In no world of magical math does that work out which is why student loan defaults are at an all time high of around 27% and why it a certainty that the government will eventually get around to bailing out these borrowers.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/15/study-over-27-of-student-loans-are-in-default/

Yet the debt still won't be discharged, thus the youth will be indentured servants to the US federal govt. Think Hillary Clinton's "Little Village" of make-work fascist, communism coming...

Fourth Reich is rising.
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May 03, 2015, 08:40:57 PM
I knew things were bad in terms of student loans in the US, but I had no idea the kind of debt medical practitioners had.

It's an investment. Going into medicine or the medical field can be hugely expensive, but that occupation is also paid ridiculously well. Honestly, in my opinion, they are overpaid. You could further argue that most occupations to pursue and get degrees in are expensive, but as I said, they compensate you well in the long run. That's the problem in the US, high costs for college and upper tier education gives no motivation for people to take that huge investment risk.

This was probably the most thread-relevant post today. Apologies for commenting to it last. I first was dumping my thoughts from yesterday's boxing megamatch to clear my mind of what I had retained.

My stance is that all licensed professions are a scam on society. They are the means by which a smaller group parasites on the society.

I believe these professions will die with the one-world reserve currency in the Knowledge Age. They will be replaced by free market solutions which perform much better.

Already IBM's Watson is outperforming human doctors at lung cancer diagnosis.

There is so much specialized knowledge that human doctors miss, such as the high dose vitamin D3 cure for my Multiple Sclerosis.

I think it is inevitable that the Western medical systems will turn into a eugenics systems after 2020 or so (Weimar Germany proved this what happens with socialized medicine). The Asian medical systems will be much more frugal and self-responsibility oriented.

The smartest will go into the Knowledge Age and find more efficient means of education than the university.
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May 03, 2015, 08:01:20 PM
They do it for money thats all.

The circus and games of the Americans are peaking now with the peaking of the society. Just like Rome, it will collapse.

This $400 million for a boring defensive boxing match is probably the peak of boxing as a spectator, money sport. Many people who paid are unsatisfied. They wanted to see Manny (David) slay Goliath with sufficient violence to hurt Mayweather for all his transgressions against political correctness and socialism. Floyd was booed so loudly after the scorecard was announced, his post-fight ring interview couldn't be heard clearly.

Floyd is milking the system very opportunistically.

Manny is a conflicted person with his religious bullshit and socialistic lies to himself and then wanting to extract maximum violence, yet justifying that is the sport of boxing yet then complaining about the sport of boxing being points based.
They both knew what the fight was really about. MONEY. They both had moeny on their mind the whole time and i wouldn't doubt it

Manny said he was willing to give it all to charity if Floyd would too. I heard some say they expected Manny to give up to half of his $100 million stake to charity. Manny spends most of his money on his large entourage of followers, not only himself.

Manny loves people. Well I do too, but difference I hate socialism and Manny (and many filipinos these days) seems caught up in idolizing it. I see that as his downfall. Individual initiative is what makes greatness, not groupthink. Manny believes he can make a better country and wants to run for Senator (or maybe this is just about money but it appears to be ideological and it could be he lying to himself but he puts on a very convincing show of sincere ideology).

I been noticing a trend away from filipino tribalism towards nationalism. I was very happy with this loss of Manny to douse some of that nationalistic mayonnaise that is festering in the Philippines. Originally I was sort of pulling for Manny to win because I admire his power and ferociousness, but then as the socialistic mayonnaise has been going ad nauseum every day for the past months, I came to accept that Manny had destroyed himself.

I detest groupthink and political correctness. Makes me want to puke.

We need lots of autonomous nodes (individuals or small groups) competing to find the best fits to nature's dynamic constraints. The only known mathematical system that can solve (converge and optimize) a dynamic system of constraints (equations) is the dynamic free market. Dynamic means a priori information is unavailable. The universe is relavistic, there is no absolute point to measure from. This is root of CoinCube's myopia.

CoinCube has an impossible job of rebutting me. I await his failed attempt in 2 days.
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May 03, 2015, 07:50:23 PM
But for the last 8 months, I've had pain in the knee joint.  I think i have eversion of the foot (aka ankle pronation). I've tried nearly everything. Including orthoptics and barefoot running. I dont really know what do to now. Whenever I walk, my arch collapses. If you run fast, you must have very high arches. Were you born like that or did you train in a particular way ?

PS: thank you for replying on my bitcoin question.

Yes I do have high arches. I don't know if it is innate or from training.

If your problem is mechanical, then vitamin D3 may do nothing. But if it is a change as you've aged, maybe it is hormonal and in that case perhaps vitamin D3 might have an effect and would be a long shot experiment. VitD3 is related to bone health, and there are many small bones in our feet.

I do tend to train more for power than for endurance. I do some endurance yet I always mix in some power activities such as sprinting, weight lifting, power-drives in basketball, boxing, etc.. Power breeds power and testosterone. Our hormone levels are vital to feelings of well being and health.

I did try DHEA in the past (sparingly) and although is gives a boost, I find it very deleterious overall and very detrimental. I never took anabolic steroids.

I tend to guess your problem is hormonal, not innate mechanical.
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Long Live CLAM
May 03, 2015, 07:06:34 PM
They do it for money thats all.

The circus and games of the Americans are peaking now with the peaking of the society. Just like Rome, it will collapse.

This $400 million for a boring defensive boxing match is probably the peak of boxing as a spectator, money sport. Many people who paid are unsatisfied. They wanted to see Manny (David) slay Goliath with sufficient violence to hurt Mayweather for all his transgressions against political correctness and socialism. Floyd was booed so loudly after the scorecard was announced, his post-fight ring interview couldn't be heard clearly.

Floyd is milking the system very opportunistically.

Manny is a conflicted person with his religious bullshit and socialistic lies to himself and then wanting to extract maximum violence, yet justifying that is the sport of boxing yet then complaining about the sport of boxing being points based.
They both knew what the fight was really about. MONEY. They both had moeny on their mind the whole time and i wouldn't doubt it
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May 03, 2015, 06:51:27 PM
I am now giving people vitamin D3 for everything that ails them, and it seems to work.

Seems most of our illness and injuries are immune system related. Also vitamin D3 affects 2500 signals in the body. It is metabolized in the liver to a hormone.

Info to be aware of if you are taking high levels of vitamin D supplements for a prolonged period.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervitaminosis_D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervitaminosis_D#Signs_and_symptoms

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Symptoms of vitamin D toxicity may include the following:

    Dehydration
    Vomiting
    Decreased appetite
    Irritability
    Constipation
    Fatigue
    Muscle weakness


So far only after 1 month, I have all the opposite symptoms and I am taking up to 70,000 IU daily. I have increased appetite, more serene demeanor, looser bowel movements, incredible energy, and renewed intense muscle strength.

You know I was nearly completely debilitated by Multiple Sclerosis in that I couldn't concentrate, I was in the bed every other hour with chronic fatigue, my muscle weakness was getting progressively worse, etc. And now after 1 month I am back to being aggressively athletic! Amazing.

P.S. my experience thus far is the vitamin D3 seems to be a libido booster (and for women too!). In my numerous tests, it also seems to reduce or eliminate menstruation pain.
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May 03, 2015, 06:46:17 PM
I am now giving people vitamin D3 for everything that ails them, and it seems to work.

Seems most of our illness and injuries are immune system related. Also vitamin D3 affects 2500 signals in the body. It is metabolized in the liver to a hormone.

Info to be aware of if you are taking high levels of vitamin D supplements for a prolonged period.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervitaminosis_D
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May 03, 2015, 06:41:37 PM
I am now giving people vitamin D3 for everything that ails them, and it seems to work. (but not high doses, only 5,000 - 10,000 IU daily for general illness)

Seems most of our illness and injuries are immune system related. Also vitamin D3 affects 2500 signals in the body. It is metabolized in the liver to a hormone.

Drinking 2.5L of water a day is apparently very important when treating with high dose vitD3 to avoid hypocalcaema. And frequent kidney panels would be advised. Some people might have a problem with serum calcium already (perhaps caused a rice grain sized malfunctioning parathyroid gland in the neck that needs to be surgically removed), so they would need to be more cautious.
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May 03, 2015, 06:39:48 PM
Fighting is barbaric. Professional fighting is a ruse. If I am entering a fight it is to the death and I will shoot first and the end.

If you want your fighting to be less controlled there is always MMA.

One of the best technical fights I have seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c44HiW-VEtw

The consistent champions of MMA are grapplers. Boxing has almost no application in real world fighting and rather is a sport that happens to be apparently well tailored to my natural strengths.

I have no skills for wrestling and I am claustrophobic. My only hope in MMA would be to use my very strong legs to kick to prevent it from going to the ground, but unlikely I would succeed. In the real world, I would run away, because I am fast (4.5seconds on 40 yard dash but not that fast now, but still probably below 5seconds).

Like you I used to have very strong legs. But for the last 8 months, I've had pain in the knee joint.  I think i have eversion of the foot (aka ankle pronation). I've tried nearly everything. Including orthoptics and barefoot running. I dont really know what do to now. Whenever I walk, my arch collapses. If you run fast, you must have very high arches. Were you born like that or did you train in a particular way ?

PS: thank you for replying on my bitcoin question.
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May 03, 2015, 06:35:22 PM
They do it for money thats all.

The circus and games of the Americans are peaking now with the peaking of the society. Just like Rome, it will collapse.

This $400 million for a boring defensive boxing match is probably the peak of boxing as a spectator, money sport. Many people who paid are unsatisfied. They wanted to see Manny (David) slay Goliath with sufficient violence to hurt Mayweather for all his transgressions against political correctness and socialism. Floyd was booed so loudly after the scorecard was announced, his post-fight ring interview couldn't be heard clearly.

Floyd is milking the system very opportunistically.

Manny is a conflicted person with his religious bullshit[1] and socialistic lies to himself and then wanting to extract maximum violence, yet justifying that is the sport of boxing yet then complaining about the sport of boxing being points based.

[1] Even if you believe the Bible, it doesn't promise the sort of things Pacman believes such as that God wants him to punish Mayweather for having domestic violence case. The Bible specifically says to let God do the judging and to be forgiving. It was clear that Pacman had lost his direction and was looking for motivation but he obviously didn't find it in that lie to himself.
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May 03, 2015, 06:31:39 PM
Fighting is barbaric. Professional fighting is a ruse. If I am entering a fight it is to the death and I will shoot first and the end.

If you want your fighting to be less controlled there is always MMA.

One of the best technical fights I have seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c44HiW-VEtw

The consistent champions of MMA are grapplers. Boxing has almost no application in real world fighting and rather is a sport that happens to be apparently well tailored to my natural strengths.

I have no skills for wrestling. My only hope in MMA would be to use my very strong legs to kick to prevent it from going to the ground, but unlikely I would succeed. In the real world, I would run away, because I am fast (4.5seconds on 40 yard dash but not that fast now, but still probably below 5seconds).

They do it for money thats all.
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