Topic: Economic Implications of War on Individuals - page 13. (Read 3331 times)

Stopping the war in your understanding and Putin’s understanding is the complete capitulation of Ukraine with the disappearance of this state from the world map and the forced transformation of Ukrainians into new Russians through blackmail, intimidation, mass deportation to remote areas of Russia, as well as torture and mass physical destruction of the dissatisfied. Ukrainians already went through this as part of the USSR; they already saw the prospect of surrender in Bucha and other de-occupied settlements, where each had special torture chambers and mass graves of killed and tortured civilian and military Ukrainians. Such a stop to the war, after which even more Ukrainians will die, is not for Ukraine.

Ukraine will resist the invasion of the Russians as best it can and has already dispelled the myth of the invincibility of the Russian “second army of the world,” which has been trying to capture the small town of Avdievka for three months now and has so far made little progress in the area of the landfill and industrial zone.

Ukraine will be able to defend its freedom and independence, and Russia will face a sad end.

Either we hate it or not we're left no choice to survive unless you are that rich to travel to the safest place of the planet. There really is an economic implications of war on individuals because some elite make money during this time while others are suffering. During war, internet and electricity might be down that time and I don't think in most affected areas can even think of having business or saving and earning in Bitcoin. I think the best thing to do right now is to prepare incase a war broke out because you don't have time to do that on the spot. Prepare for the worst.

Any war provides excellent enrichment for some, and utter ruin or destruction for others. War is used to justify price increases, hunger, unemployment and other terrible economic consequences. Personally, I think that any war is very bad.

This is the most blatant, shameless, retarded lie I've read on this forum this year. Could you provide the quote by Putin saying this with a source? I already know the answer and the answer is NO. Simply because he didn't say that. I already rebutted this lie in another thread but you keep posting this crap all around the forum? 

Regarding Zelensky, he is guilty of killing so many innocent people and hundreds of thousands of AFU soldiers in this useless war. Ukraine can't win a war against Russia, it's a suicide. A president who cares about his country has to stop the war. Forget about Crimea and Donbas. They're lost for good. Just stop the war and save peoples lives ffs.

I wonder what arguments you have that Ukrainian President Zelensky killed one million people?
Meanwhile, Putin has indeed already killed even more than a million people, both Ukrainians and Russians, unleashing one of the most brutal wars in Ukraine. During the “direct line” on December 14, he admitted that the irretrievable losses of Russian troops in Ukraine amount to more than 300 thousand people. This is how you need to destroy your people for the sake of your imperial ambitions to forcibly recreate the new USSR. But after all, Putin’s efforts lead to the exact opposite result. It is likely that in a few years we will be able to observe how great Russia will disintegrate into separate independent republics, the central power of which was maintained only by the repression of the security forces.

1. Wrong opinion! If you study history, NATO was created after the Second World War ended, the USSR occupied the countries of Eastern Europe, placing its troops there. NATO was created with a very specific purpose: to protect the freedom and security of all its member states through political and military means. Collective defense is central to the Alliance and creates a spirit of solidarity and cohesion among its members.
Since the risks of further escalation of the USSR to the West were very high, which the USSR had stated earlier. It is enough to study what the International is, the ideas of which were promoted from Lenin to Stalin. And there were absolutely no hidden goals - the occupation of Europe and other continents by the communist regime.
Well, if you study history, you will also find out that most of the NATO confrontation had nothing to do with the USSR/RF.
And as a fact, I can name a lot of examples where the USSR captured and occupied foreign territories, but you cannot give a single example where the United States, using NATO, annexed foreign territory.

2. You are confusing small terrorists, consumables, whom puppet masters throw at some US facilities. I was talking about a full-fledged military invasion. Don't confuse these two different entities.

3. You are again confusing operations agreed upon by the international community to restore order and destroy bastard, criminal, terrorist regimes that pose a danger to both their neighbors and the whole world. And the vile terrorist attacks from the near future are an attack by Russia on small Georgia, or on the same small Moldova, or, for example, on Ukraine, which is many times, obviously weaker and smaller. This is provided that none of the listed countries pose a threat to Russia or their neighbors.

NATO is purely an American tool which I wouldn't even call an alliance and its purpose is only one thing: a military proxy to counter Russia. It is not to protect NATO members, it is only to protect US.

The "biggest" member of NATO is being attacked every day. USS carney is back to Djibouti port for repairs again after yesterday's attack

Exactly. This is why United States has only attacked disarmed and extremely weak countries like the disarmed Iraq, the cavemen controlled Afghanistan, etc.

Did you forget to take your anti-halucenogenic again ?

Just in case - the so-called "legitimate president Yanukovych" cowardly ran away from the country, leaving his post, ceasing to fulfill his obligations, after he organized a bloodbath in the capital of the country, in the central square of the city. Including with the help of attracted "helpers" from the country of terrorist - Russia. Tell everyone again about his legitimacy ?

2022 is interesting - don't forget to tell the psychiatric board,
Just a reminder - the invasion of the terrorist country Russia in Ukraine began in 2014, with the occupation of Crimea, and the introduction of troops into the Lunan and Donetsk regions of Ukraine, immediately after the cowardly flight of Yanukovych.

PS You should take some sclerosis pills, give your doctor my recommendations

It would be better if we avoid war zones or zones that are indicated to soon become conflict zones. Because when war and conflict break out there is not much we can do other than survive and protect our families. When war is going on, the economy will be paralyzed in that area. So any economic planning will not work there. I would probably prefer to find a way to evacuate all my family to safety. And start a new life in another area. Maybe it's not easy. Because even evacuating seems like many people have bad luck. But if the situation doesn't allow you to run, then fighting is the best. Because we cannot just remain silent when we see people near us being attacked. But even though war may make us confused and panicked. But we have to keep thinking rationally and make smart steps. But I hope you OP are not in a war or conflict zone. I hope you can get out of the zone closest to the conflict zone. Because we don't know whether the war will spread or not. Having advance preparation is much better.

73.22% of voters in Ukraine voted for Zelensky in the 2019 elections, and international observers confirmed the free will of Ukrainians in the presidential elections in the country. Therefore, Zelensky is a completely legitimate president.

Yanukovych betrayed Ukraine and, at the instigation of Putin, refused to sign an association agreement between Ukraine and the European Union, and when people came to the main square of Kiev to express their protest, he ordered shooting at unarmed people and killed 104 protesters, whom the people later nicknamed the “heavenly hundred.” When after this the protesters in the square announced that they would storm the Yanukovych administration, he fled from Ukraine to Russia, where he remains to this day. Courts in Ukraine sentenced former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych to 13 years in prison for high treason and complicity in Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine.

Ukraine, with President Zelensky, is now defending itself from a military invasion of its territory by Russians, and at the same time, not a million, but over 300 thousand Russian occupiers have been killed and maimed. If they continue to attack Ukraine with weapons in their hands, then perhaps this figure will increase to a million.

Russia captured the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, as well as parts of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions in 2014, and since that time its troops have been conducting military operations to seize the entire territory of Ukraine. Therefore, Russia’s war of aggression has been going on for ten years.

Yes, the last (to this day) legitimate president of Ukraine Yanukovych killed no one. Pro-American junta leader Zelensky killed or mutilated over 1 million people. Can you feel the difference?

You start making things up again - the war started in February 2022 not in 2014.  

Very good answer, hard to disagree !
It is only necessary to add that the first point refers to the residents of the country of the potential AGGRESSOR. And it is in their hands not to allow war to break out.

The second point is perfectly correct, and is confirmed by modern practice. The "ideal example" is Ukraine, where the pro-Russian President Yanukovych, during his term of office, did everything to extremely weaken the armed forces of Ukraine, demoralize the forces, deprive them of the necessary reserves to wage a defensive war.... The result you know - 2014, Russia's terrorist attack on Ukraine, and this terrorist war continues for the 10th year....

I would also add point 3: Joining economic and military-political alliances like NATO. Any aggressor is afraid of POWER and RESPONSE. As you know from history, there has never been a single case of a crazed aggressor attacking a country with greater military, technological, and economic potential. The peculiarity of bastard regimes is meanness and cowardice, so they attack only countries that are guaranteed to be unable to resist.

You have to wait for the war to be over for rebuilding to start. Sometimes the government will take this as an opportunity to change the system of owning land on the ground zero.

While the war is going on, hard to find an easy money-making job you can do when you are on the ground but because people have to eat and live normally, I guess dairy products from milk to butter and bread as its a necessity for everyone. And at the same time, you can feed your family too.

Unless you already live inside a warzone, you should ask about ways to prevent war instead of trying to think about ways of surviving it. NOW is the time for prevention since war hasn't broken out in 99% of the world.

There are two main ways of doing that:
1. Kicking any idiot in the government who is a warmonger or is stupidly taking steps that is going to lead to conflict out of office. This is specifically important for countries who are or have elected people who are not really politicians and have no clue what they are doing. Best example is Ukraine that had a celebrity as president who pushed their country into war.

2. Increasing military defensive strength to discourage any foreign force from thinking of starting any kind of conflict. That requires more budget allocation, and most importantly strategic alliances specifically with neighbors while avoiding far away players that seek their own interests at the cost of destroying your country such as what United States has been doing to other countries around the world.

War wouldn't stop you from needing food, shelter, and all the other stuff you need to keep you and your family safe and fulfilled. It's not wrong for OP to ask for such things especially since I see him as a family man who's at a crossroads right now, although I don't really know which country he's residing in and all that stuff.

In any case, unfortunately I don't know of any business you could make while you're at war, only after the war has finally cleared and the aftermath is laid bare. You ever watched Lord of War? if you do then you might know what I'm already referring to, although I propose a way more ethical approach to this situation. You could set a joint effort/campaign with your neighbors and eventually your country, to pick these weapons from the ground, melt them and reuse the metals for infrastructure and rebuilding. I don't know how viable this approach is so you guys might want to correct me if ever, but I see this as the only feasible way you can make profit within arms length of a war, while still retaining your morals and probably even helping your country rebuild.

Apparently, in order for there to be no wars or significantly fewer of them, states must agree with existing borders and not try to change them by force. Now, for example, Venezuela suddenly remembered that more than a hundred years ago, a significant part of the current territory of Guyana belonged to Venezuela and they intend to take it back by military means. Although the real reason for this possible war is the discovery of large oil deposits in this disputed territory. Apparently, human nature is such that he will always fight with his neighbors until humanity itself perishes.

this is true because country also needs to mantain the resource that they have in the right place, I think there's many reasons why some countries out there decide to mind their own business for various purposes.
honestly when it comes to economic implications I think we can agree with the fact that inflation does increase a lot these days that it decreasing our buying powers.
not to mention the worsening housing market thats just simply unaffordable for people and keep in mind that having a house to live in, basically a shelter is basic needs.
can't really grow when half of our money goes to rent, it will be great if the wars could eventually be ended, lifting off a burden from the world economic is always a good thing but we know things are complicated.

No one likes wars, not even the soldiers at the frontline.
War is like a parasite with tentacles that drains the living day light out of everything it touches. It doesn’t benefit anyone or any side to the story, yet you find this conflict situations existing within us.
Being prone to anger, means you could be prone to conflict and war. It’s a part of our human existence and one that can end humanity.

War ends in minutes the civilization that has taken a lifetime to build, it reduces nations to rubbles and holds nothing back on its path to destruction.
My heart goes to those having to endure this process at the time and hope the rest of our world do the most they could to support every side. Every fighting side is a victim and a part to humanity. War is the real enemy here and not the people at war with themselves. Let’s our coexist and know that we share this world together and we need ourselves to survive.

some countries are also obviously much powerful than others in terms of military and economical powers it’s devastating because instead of helping or showing a stand, some countries tend to just step aside and watch things unfold if the war has no direct impact on the country especially if a much powerful country, one that also helps the lesser powerful countries, is involved they might not want to upset the powerful country and risk losing their connection

people are dying from wars but politics is politics and countries will always take a stand based on what they will gain or what they will lose

Wars are started and wars are ended by a few countries and a few people in the world and a few countries in the world. Many countries cannot refrain from war even if they want to because they have nothing to do.
Many countries continue to be anti-war because of regional and geographical interests and colonial politics so that if war exists among them, they can also profit. Because of this many times war does not end