Topic: Economic Totalitarianism - page 26. (Read 345758 times)

Nothing is difficult when they control the global monetary system. I think you've been sleeping under a rock since China announced a mandatory social network where its citizens are required to report their friends who speak out against the Communist Party.

Asians are very pragmatic. They will do what is best to "get their loans", etc..


And you can inspect every one of the chips that is sold into the market? And what do you do when every foundry you contract delivers you chips which have "defects"?

And are you entirely sure that hardware logic can't be obscured with 3D layering and other obfuscation methods (including those yet to be published)? Do you think the national security agencies and intelligence agencies with their $100+ billion in funding have not looked into developing the necessary technology?

There are other ways the governments could sabotage your business plans.

Be realistic. You don't defeat collectivism with collectivist action.

Edit: Enabling individuals defeats collectivism.

Foundries getting gag orders is not a realistic problem.  It is difficult to enforce a U.S. court order on a Taiwan company.  If you have their cooperation, it doesn't matter anyhow because it's easy to read the chip, and see if it contains deviations from the masks.  It is very open to review.

We do need open source 4g baseband hardware.  For GSM there is osmocom, but I know of no phone for it.  A secure phone would sell millions.  Even if it were just 3g GSM.

Or start a hardware company that bugs every office and video tapes everything going into their facilities and leaving (up until the point it reaches your door). Their motto could be, "You're watching us, so nobody can watch you."

Or just find a way to manufacture hardware using 3d printers (though I don't believe the technology has evolved to that sophistication yet).

That is incorrect. The OS and hardware can be designed to leak everything. Although perhaps the encryption could be done on a USB dongle mini-computer (plugged into the user's computing device) that is running custom open source OS and hardware.

What is very hard is to hide that the OS and hardware has that capability. Easier to hide if closed-sourced. But knowing it has that capability won't help us prevent it from leaking the data. Well I guess it could if we refuse to connect our device to any network. But who the hell is going to use a mobile device that is never connected to any network.

The only technical solution is to open source all the OS and the hardware. But we can't open source the hardware because the foundries can be subjected to a national security gag order.

The only non-technical solution is political. And the politics won't be improving until the boomers are gone. If Apple loses the case and the government mandates a backdoor on encryption, then computing is fucked. Because any backdoor can be hacked. The tech giants are all fighting the government on this. It would lead to a computing Dark Age. If they explain it properly hopefully the political support exists to stop the government.

But that might not even stop the NSA from handing out national security gag orders and finding some way to put a backdoor in the hardware.

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Thanks, TPTB for the explanation.

Still, there ARE ways for a clever community to find ways of protecting their personal info.  Maybe Apple indeed has constructed their OS so that there is nothing that can really prevent the phone from having its password hacked (etc.), which would then allow unimpeded access to phone call records (etc.) to LE.

Based on the extremely limited contacts I have w/ cryptographers (and limited reading), it is my opinion that a large group of concerned folks like us can make it VERY HARD for LE to get some information, even on cellphones.  (Not including phone call info of course)

What a pity that cryptography is still so difficult to use "for the masses".  I cannot even find friends to use PGP with by email, and my friends are likely pretty well educated Americans vs. the average.  Though most are sheep.......

Baa-aah!  Baaah!  Baaa-aa-aaah!

The operating system and hardware vendor can undermine any security programmed into an App.

We need to move to completely open sourced OSes and hardware, but even Android is not that.

Sorry you won't be able to hide from the backdoor if Apple loses their case.

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Edging into a new topic for the moment, I read recently that one way PEOPLE may get to be better able to secure their iPhones (and others) would be for someone to write cunning little apps to do that.  I can think of one or two possibilities already (one would be to mimic the iPhone being off and then require a new password, perhaps another to hide info that a user would want hidden if an FBI were to break into the phone, I am sure other ideas would come along...).

Perhaps the apps writers would have to be outside the USA.  And I suppose Apple might have its own requirements (burdens) on such apps to make them accessible to AAPL itself or the FBI/NSA.

What's say TPTB?  That might be a fairly quick way to make a buck...

Politics is stuck in the economic collapse of liberal socialism until the boomers stop vomiting

Quite the list of criminals they've got in queue.

I missed your progress on this, and a cursory search didn't find much. Was there headway, or was your latter declaration final after testing different concepts?


Yes, when? Still waiting


Relevant:

Larry Summers to Speak about Bitcoin at Consensus 2016

http://www.coindesk.com/elliptic-bitcoin-surveillance-tools

Familiarize yourself with 21 Inc.

Familiarize yourself with the Ethereum scam and who funded its inception (Peter Thiel gave Vitalik $100,000).

Etc....

I'm not sure I'm buying into that conspiracy theory. I find the problem with that is that if one believes it, then there is practically nothing for which these elites/bankers/globalists/illuminati haven't planned. Essentially they are just THAT smart and in that case we're always fucked, for lack of a better term.

Call me naive, but until you lay out the evidence here it is simply just your theory.

If I do go ahead and accept your theory as true, well even then I think it's out of their control. It's kinda like the Internet. Created by government, but now the Internet is actually facilitating governments demise. Crypto-currency either already is, or will be, completely out of their control and will destroy their ability to tax because as Obama recently said, "everyone's walking around with a swiss bank account in their pocket". Maybe Bitcoin ultimately becomes their tool, but something else won't be.

Indeed invented by the corrupt bastard Larry Summers and will used to control and enslave us. Crypto currency is adding to the fraud.

Cheers to this playing out! Bitcoins invention was very timely in this regard.

Confidence could collapse overnight especially with increasing civil unrest, leftard kids are awfully keen on assassinating popular right wing candidates (globally)

The establishment will also add to the collapse in confidence by committing blatant fraud, the masses will realise democracy is a joke.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/qa/the-next-four-years-after-2015-75/

With any luck Hillary will be captured and used as a foot stool.

2032 seems awfully soon for Socialism to become 90% extinct, but at the rate which information flows these days I can see this might be possible. Libertarianism has been gaining a lot of traction in the last 10 years. Ron Paul supporters were mostly younger Internet savvy types.

"Why Students Give Capitalism an F"

'...Not only are young voters more likely to support Democrats than Republicans, they are also more likely to support the most left-wing Democrats. In recent polls of voters under 30, self-declared democratic socialist Bernie Sanders beats the more mainstream Hillary Clinton by almost six-to-one.

Former professor Mark Pastin, writing in the Weekly Standard, acknowledges some of Clinton's flaws as a candidate, but concludes that "the most compelling explanation" for young Democrats' overwhelming preference for Sanders "is that young voters actually like the idea of a socialist revolution."...'

http://fee.org/articles/why-students-give-capitalism-an-f/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=fee_daily&mkt_tok=3RkMMJWWfF9wsRokv6jNZKXonjHpfsX57OsuXaW3lMI%2F0ER3fOvrPUfGjI4DT8BiI%2BSLDwEYGJlv6SgFQ7HBMbhr1rgPWhk%3D


http://www.valuewalk.com/2016/03/pentagon-darpa-will-pay-weaponize-home/

"...The Department of Defense is challenging hobbyists around the country to develop commercially available technology into something of a weapon hoping that it will help them protect members of the U.S. Military..."

"...DARPA wants individuals and companies to submit ideas and allow DARPA to give the thumbs-up or thumbs-down. Ideas that DARPA likes will move forward from here and offer $40,000 per submission once in the contest part of the competition. Submissions that make this cut will see the money but also a two-week deadline to build a prototype with the potential for those going forward to receive an additional $70,000..."

To much partying going on the west side of the planet and rich kids doesnt care about money at all.
No worries someday they will be hit by a truck and will lead to a down fall.

Not in Asia. That is why Asia will bottom 2020 and lead. The West will entirely collapse until those who are not totally spoiled are all that is remaining by 2032.95