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February 16, 2017, 10:53:56 AM
#71
It has only a small dependency on the wages. Even if you suddenly increase the wages by 10 times, more than 90% of the corrupt officials will continue to accept bribes. These people are greedy, and their greed is insatiable.
Corrupt officers will always consider benefit/risk ratio. If you have a salary equals middle corporation CEO from one side and risk losing it, all assets acquired while in office and good pension, you will think twice before taking a bribe or kickback.
What do you order that before you take a bribe, he would think twice? The main thing that he will take her. The more you fight corruption, the more bribes and more sophisticated methods of obtaining it. That makes all the difference.
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February 15, 2017, 11:32:38 PM
#70
It has only a small dependency on the wages. Even if you suddenly increase the wages by 10 times, more than 90% of the corrupt officials will continue to accept bribes. These people are greedy, and their greed is insatiable.
Corrupt officers will always consider benefit/risk ratio. If you have a salary equals middle corporation CEO from one side and risk losing it, all assets acquired while in office and good pension, you will think twice before taking a bribe or kickback.
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February 15, 2017, 06:30:45 PM
#69
So are you telling that your father was doing some shady business to bribe the officials Cheesy Most of the poor countries have the most corrupt officials because of the wage difference they have and it is hard to eradicate corruption altogether.

It has only a small dependency on the wages. Even if you suddenly increase the wages by 10 times, more than 90% of the corrupt officials will continue to accept bribes. These people are greedy, and their greed is insatiable.
In my country, too, all cops are corrupt. How many of them do not pay salaries, they still want more. I don't know why they have such a pathological greed for money. Probably power over people corrupts.
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February 15, 2017, 08:31:25 AM
#68
So are you telling that your father was doing some shady business to bribe the officials Cheesy Most of the poor countries have the most corrupt officials because of the wage difference they have and it is hard to eradicate corruption altogether.

It has only a small dependency on the wages. Even if you suddenly increase the wages by 10 times, more than 90% of the corrupt officials will continue to accept bribes. These people are greedy, and their greed is insatiable.
I think all corrupt officials should be put in jail. Confiscate all property purchased and him and his family. And ban them permanently from holding positions in which it is possible to have the proceeds of corruption.
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February 15, 2017, 02:00:42 AM
#67
So are you telling that your father was doing some shady business to bribe the officials Cheesy Most of the poor countries have the most corrupt officials because of the wage difference they have and it is hard to eradicate corruption altogether.

It has only a small dependency on the wages. Even if you suddenly increase the wages by 10 times, more than 90% of the corrupt officials will continue to accept bribes. These people are greedy, and their greed is insatiable.
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February 14, 2017, 08:08:14 PM
#66
then throw them to jail with only food and water for a life time...   Smiley
It is only on the first sight this type of prison is cheap! In fact, if you count high security costs, offender's life here will cost taxpayers enough for a flight to Mars.

Sometimes, all in the government is politics, most  of them wants to drag each one down... Sometimes their cases takes just the same as their term, and after they are done, critics would also slow down.... With that said, hanging them or killing them might be a mistake... Who knows, the accused is only played by crooks so they could make their name or as I've said to drag one down... They might need retrial... Unless it is very obvious...  Smiley

They should choose between hanging them in public, or they do seppuku/harakiri due to shame...  Cheesy
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February 14, 2017, 02:36:37 PM
#65
Ex-USSR is riddled with corruption. A Russian minister (Alexei Ulyukayev) was recently arrested for taking bribes. In Moldova, corrupt officials stole about one-sixth of the GDP in a matter of few days. And the thieves are yet to be caught.
It's based on a simple fact. Countries with high unemployment rates and low wages will always face corruption problems. There are maps of corruption available, that show poor countries are the most corrupt and old USSR is just a small part of the former Soviet Union that is known for the things a bill under the table can do for you. My father used to travel through that region in the 80s and when you were caught by a militsiya patrol (communist police) you'd always put a note between the documents and they'd take it to the car to check and bring you back without it and wish you a pleasant trip. Many people were brought up in corruption and they are used to it
So are you telling that your father was doing some shady business to bribe the officials Cheesy Most of the poor countries have the most corrupt officials because of the wage difference they have and it is hard to eradicate corruption altogether.

I think what his point is, instead of his father being question by the military police during checkpoint and to avoid hassle on their end, he will just slipped money on the documents and the police will simply let you go away without question.

But I agree, usually corruption is rampant in third world countries because the police has a meager salary so they will accept bribes without blinking an eye because the salary they are getting are not enough to feed his family. Corruption is very difficult to really remove or eradicate.
Unfortunately there are instances when the police on the contrary pay large salaries and this does not help to fight corruption. Here we need very different ways. Just in poor countries is very great temptation to make money.
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February 14, 2017, 02:23:43 PM
#64
Ex-USSR is riddled with corruption. A Russian minister (Alexei Ulyukayev) was recently arrested for taking bribes. In Moldova, corrupt officials stole about one-sixth of the GDP in a matter of few days. And the thieves are yet to be caught.
It's based on a simple fact. Countries with high unemployment rates and low wages will always face corruption problems. There are maps of corruption available, that show poor countries are the most corrupt and old USSR is just a small part of the former Soviet Union that is known for the things a bill under the table can do for you. My father used to travel through that region in the 80s and when you were caught by a militsiya patrol (communist police) you'd always put a note between the documents and they'd take it to the car to check and bring you back without it and wish you a pleasant trip. Many people were brought up in corruption and they are used to it
So are you telling that your father was doing some shady business to bribe the officials Cheesy Most of the poor countries have the most corrupt officials because of the wage difference they have and it is hard to eradicate corruption altogether.

I think what his point is, instead of his father being question by the military police during checkpoint and to avoid hassle on their end, he will just slipped money on the documents and the police will simply let you go away without question.

But I agree, usually corruption is rampant in third world countries because the police has a meager salary so they will accept bribes without blinking an eye because the salary they are getting are not enough to feed his family. Corruption is very difficult to really remove or eradicate.
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February 14, 2017, 01:44:56 AM
#63
Ex-USSR is riddled with corruption. A Russian minister (Alexei Ulyukayev) was recently arrested for taking bribes. In Moldova, corrupt officials stole about one-sixth of the GDP in a matter of few days. And the thieves are yet to be caught.
It's based on a simple fact. Countries with high unemployment rates and low wages will always face corruption problems. There are maps of corruption available, that show poor countries are the most corrupt and old USSR is just a small part of the former Soviet Union that is known for the things a bill under the table can do for you. My father used to travel through that region in the 80s and when you were caught by a militsiya patrol (communist police) you'd always put a note between the documents and they'd take it to the car to check and bring you back without it and wish you a pleasant trip. Many people were brought up in corruption and they are used to it
So are you telling that your father was doing some shady business to bribe the officials Cheesy Most of the poor countries have the most corrupt officials because of the wage difference they have and it is hard to eradicate corruption altogether.
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February 14, 2017, 01:10:23 AM
#62
Ex-USSR is riddled with corruption. A Russian minister (Alexei Ulyukayev) was recently arrested for taking bribes. In Moldova, corrupt officials stole about one-sixth of the GDP in a matter of few days. And the thieves are yet to be caught.
It's based on a simple fact. Countries with high unemployment rates and low wages will always face corruption problems. There are maps of corruption available, that show poor countries are the most corrupt and old USSR is just a small part of the former Soviet Union that is known for the things a bill under the table can do for you. My father used to travel through that region in the 80s and when you were caught by a militsiya patrol (communist police) you'd always put a note between the documents and they'd take it to the car to check and bring you back without it and wish you a pleasant trip. Many people were brought up in corruption and they are used to it
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February 13, 2017, 10:43:15 PM
#61
That is too rude, anyway, we should not waste our time and energy with them just to see them suffering. I'd rather go with a lethal injection, so they'll just be gone in a second or public execution would do. And all their wealth should take possession by the government and give to poor people or to build schools etc.

Corruption is punishable by death in some of the countries, like China. However in Western nations, the white-collar crimes are always treated lightly. Even if someone steals billions of USD (such as Bernie Madoff), he will be out of jail in a few years.
This situation not only in the United States. In many countries of the former USSR the corrupt do not put. They are all respected and are in power. The more people steal, the less likely that it will be put in jail.

Ex-USSR is riddled with corruption. A Russian minister (Alexei Ulyukayev) was recently arrested for taking bribes. In Moldova, corrupt officials stole about one-sixth of the GDP in a matter of few days. And the thieves are yet to be caught.
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February 13, 2017, 04:35:23 PM
#60
you cant cure corruption entirely caz they goverment it self made the laws that made sure corruption is okay and not 100% detected
You really cannot say like that because in countries like China you could face a jail sentence for corruption or even get executed .So it all depends upon which country you are talking about and cannot generalize things like that. Corruption is like a cancer and it is not that easy to eradicate completely,each individual is responsible if you want to eradicate corruption.
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February 13, 2017, 01:59:29 PM
#59
That is too rude, anyway, we should not waste our time and energy with them just to see them suffering. I'd rather go with a lethal injection, so they'll just be gone in a second or public execution would do. And all their wealth should take possession by the government and give to poor people or to build schools etc.

Corruption is punishable by death in some of the countries, like China. However in Western nations, the white-collar crimes are always treated lightly. Even if someone steals billions of USD (such as Bernie Madoff), he will be out of jail in a few years.
This situation not only in the United States. In many countries of the former USSR the corrupt do not put. They are all respected and are in power. The more people steal, the less likely that it will be put in jail.
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February 13, 2017, 11:47:47 AM
#58
That is too rude, anyway, we should not waste our time and energy with them just to see them suffering. I'd rather go with a lethal injection, so they'll just be gone in a second or public execution would do. And all their wealth should take possession by the government and give to poor people or to build schools etc.

Corruption is punishable by death in some of the countries, like China. However in Western nations, the white-collar crimes are always treated lightly. Even if someone steals billions of USD (such as Bernie Madoff), he will be out of jail in a few years.
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February 13, 2017, 06:51:05 AM
#57
The best way to stop it is to implement a death penalty out of it. Or if others don't approve it just cutting their fingers if they have proven to bribe the money of the country. In that way I think no onw will brine again. Who wants to lose fingers anyway?

Killing them will be ineffective, you just shorten their sufferings... Cutting their fingers too, man can live without one finger, even without one arm... The best solution to those caught corrupt politicians is to strip off all their wealth, assets from the time they entered public service, then throw them to jail with only food and water for a life time...   Smiley
That is too rude, anyway, we should not waste our time and energy with them just to see them suffering. I'd rather go with a lethal injection, so they'll just be gone in a second or public execution would do. And all their wealth should take possession by the government and give to poor people or to build schools etc.
All the corrupt officials working in the government. Do you think that if you take money from the corrupt ones and give them to other corrupt officials that they will build the money to schools? I'm just funny!
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February 13, 2017, 03:28:57 AM
#56
The best way to stop it is to implement a death penalty out of it. Or if others don't approve it just cutting their fingers if they have proven to bribe the money of the country. In that way I think no onw will brine again. Who wants to lose fingers anyway?

Killing them will be ineffective, you just shorten their sufferings... Cutting their fingers too, man can live without one finger, even without one arm... The best solution to those caught corrupt politicians is to strip off all their wealth, assets from the time they entered public service, then throw them to jail with only food and water for a life time...   Smiley
That is too rude, anyway, we should not waste our time and energy with them just to see them suffering. I'd rather go with a lethal injection, so they'll just be gone in a second or public execution would do. And all their wealth should take possession by the government and give to poor people or to build schools etc.
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February 12, 2017, 11:17:57 PM
#55
then throw them to jail with only food and water for a life time...   Smiley
It is only on the first sight this type of prison is cheap! In fact, if you count high security costs, offender's life here will cost taxpayers enough for a flight to Mars.
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February 12, 2017, 07:20:49 PM
#54
The best way to stop it is to implement a death penalty out of it. Or if others don't approve it just cutting their fingers if they have proven to bribe the money of the country. In that way I think no onw will brine again. Who wants to lose fingers anyway?

Killing them will be ineffective, you just shorten their sufferings... Cutting their fingers too, man can live without one finger, even without one arm... The best solution to those caught corrupt politicians is to strip off all their wealth, assets from the time they entered public service, then throw them to jail with only food and water for a life time...   Smiley
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February 12, 2017, 11:15:50 AM
#53
The best way to stop it is to implement a death penalty out of it. Or if others don't approve it just cutting their fingers if they have proven to bribe the money of the country. In that way I think no onw will brine again. Who wants to lose fingers anyway?
In China, corruption is sentenced to death and what? I think in China there is no corruption? Wrong. I think the only way to fight corruption is not to make unnecessary restrictions in the legislation.
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February 12, 2017, 10:59:40 AM
#52
The best way to stop it is to implement a death penalty out of it. Or if others don't approve it just cutting their fingers if they have proven to bribe the money of the country. In that way I think no onw will brine again. Who wants to lose fingers anyway?
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